Cairo's Six - 3.6 in and running great! Options

[Steve]

I am curious…. Was the 3.6 worth it to you over the 3.2? The 3.2 is plenty for these cars and a lot less hassle to install. A quieter fan / motor would be nice with the 3.6, the 3.2 is pretty noisy. Looking forward to getting my 3.6 running, so I can compare.

[930cabman]

I am curious…. Was the 3.6 worth it to you over the 3.2? The 3.2 is plenty for these cars and a lot less hassle to install. A quieter fan / motor would be nice with the 3.6, the 3.2 is pretty noisy. Looking forward to getting my 3.6 running, so I can compare.

Just got my stock 2.7 with Webers going and wondering about these large displacement builds. 2.7 seems adequate, but I guess size matters

Can't imagine Clay with a 4.0 monster

[Cairo94507]

@Steve - Hi Steve- The 3.6 is definitely worth it. Yes, it was a lot of work and some money too, as you already know. But the engine behaves completely different from the 3.2. The 3.2, to me, always felt like it was working to make power- and it did have good power. I often described it running like a small block Chevy hot rod motor. The engine noise was the most apparent difference between the two.

The 3.6 just seems to make effortless power and there is very little engine noise - and I still do not have my back pad installed so it will only get better. In my book, this 3.6 will stay in my car until I can no longer drive. I have used 1st gear, out of habit, a couple of times, but really just have a 4 speed now. The 3.6 has so much torque that it works just fine. I think you will love the 3.6, especially with the 915. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

[930cabman]

@Steve - Hi Steve- The 3.6 is definitely worth it. Yes, it was a lot of work and some money too, as you already know. But the engine behaves completely different from the 3.2. The 3.2, to me, always felt like it was working to make power- and it did have good power. I often described it running like a small block Chevy hot rod motor. The engine noise was the most apparent difference between the two.

The 3.6 just seems to make effortless power and there is very little engine noise - and I still do not my back pad installed so it will only get better. In my book, this 3.6 will stay in my car until I can no longer drive. I have used 1st gear, out of habit, a couple of times, but really just have a 4 speed now. The 3.6 has so much torque that it works just fine. I think you will love the 3.6, especially with the 915. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

So, now you are running a big block?

[Cairo94507]

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[930cabman]

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with turbo(s) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif)

got to feel great to get her running

[mepstein]

When is the 915 going in?

[Cairo94507]

Yeah, I wish. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

[Steve]

Yeah, I wish. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

Kind of over rated. I had dr. Evil build me a 914 trans for my SBC 914, 3rd is O, 4th is X and 5th is H. It’s only a 4 speed, but a 1/4 of the cost of a 916 trans. The 993 tiptronic was only a 4 speed. The 3.6 motor has more than enough power to start out in second. Sir Andy has been using a 914 trans with his 3.6 for years.

[Cairo94507]

Yup, I know. And I know Andy "drives" his car too. If I had a spare $20K in a couch cushion.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

[Steve]

Yup, I know. And I know Andy "drives" his car too. If I had a spare $20K in a couch cushion.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

Some guy on Pelican is working on a Boxster Trans kit. If iit ever happens it would be cheaper and better, but more work. It would be easier shifting and a six speed. Some day when I get my car running I will let you drive it, unless you can find a 3.6 915 car up there.

[Cairo94507]

@Steve - I would love to drive your car. A Boxster 6 speed would be sweet. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

[Cairo94507]

Today we changed the oil and both filters. The oil looked nice and clean coming out; only had 300 miles on it. The magnetic drain plug looked clean too. The underside of the car was nice and dry.

I re-torqued the CV bolts and exhaust manifolds. Greg shot color on the trunk hinges and you would never know he welded the trunk shock balls onto the hinge- they look like they came from the factory like that. I really like the way the trunk opens and closes now. Great kit from Camp 914- thanks again Craig.

Then we adjusted the tail pipe where it exits the valance; the Sport Dansk has a larger tip than the stock Dansk. We were able to get the tip to fit much nicer.

We had rain for about 50% of the trip to Tracy (109 miles from my home to Greg's) and then again on the way home for maybe 30 minutes. My car didn't melt.... Car is running great. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

[930cabman]

Today we changed the oil and both filters. The oil looked nice and clean coming out; only had 300 miles on it. The magnetic drain plug looked clean too. The underside of the car was nice and dry.

I re-torqued the CV bolts and exhaust manifolds. Greg shot color on the trunk hinges and you would never know he welded the trunk shock balls onto the hinge- they look like they came from the factory like that. I really like the way the trunk opens and closes now. Great kit from Camp 914- thanks again Craig.

Then we adjusted the tail pipe where it exits the valance; the Sport Dansk has a larger tip than the stock Dansk. We were able to get the tip to fit much nicer.

We had rain for about 50% of the trip to Tracy (109 miles from my home to Greg's) and then again on the way home for maybe 30 minutes. My car didn't melt.... Car is running great. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

Congrats, the taste of victory is sweet (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif)

[Steve]

Congrats!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

[Cairo94507]

Moving along to trying to sort what I believe is a mis-match between sender and gauge for my oil temperature and pressure. My pressure is typical 80 pounds when at freeway speeds, say 2700 RPM/75 MPH, and when idling, at 40 pounds. I believe that is almost double the actual pressure. I believe my 3.6 retains the stock sender as it was only in a car for 2 years before it was removed and stored.

My oil temperature is, I believe, reading low. The other day I drove 108 miles, granted the weather was cool, say 65 degrees out, but the gauge never got above, say 160 degrees. Despite that, my 200 degree thermal switch for my fans had turned the fans on.

Here is a picture of the gauges to show the scale on each gauge. These gauges were, I believe accurate with the 3.2.

[tygaboy]

Where's the oil temp sensor relative to the fan thermo switch? Any chance the temp differential could be due to that?

As I say "It's always something..." You'll get it sorted, I have no doubt.

[Cairo94507]

@Tygaboy - Hi Chris- The thermal switch (fans) is in the front trunk just about 1 foot from the fans- quite a ways from the engine where the oil temp sensor resides.

Hartmut (Palo Alto Speedo) has offered to bench test my gauges to check their accuracy, so that might be something I do down the road if I determine the senders on the engine are correct units for that engine- I believe they are. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

[ClayPerrine]

I found the stock 3.6L sender does not match an earlier 911 sender. You have to get the proper sender to match the gauge.

So you will probably end up with a 8MM sender that won't fit the hole the original 3.6L sender was in. So you will need part number 964 107 705 22. That fits in the big hole that the 3.6L sender was in, and has an 8mm hole in it for the proper sender to match the gauge.

And you will probably have to have a separate sender for the gauge and the light.

[930cabman]

When is the 915 going in?

Haven't heard, is a G50 an option in our teeners?

have one in my 930, it's sweet