Cairo's Six - 3.6 in and running great! Options

[4CamGT]

3.2 with the original Webers and fan housing assembly.

[4CamGT]

3.2 with the original Webers and fan housing assembly.

Sorry about the multiple posts!!

[rhodyguy]

Impressive collection of equipment. That IG and bright chrome work is so right on a 914.

[JeffBowlsby]

I’m seeing a creamsicle in this thread. Who owns it and is the car on the 914 Can Am registry?

[Cairo94507]

Hi Jeff @JeffBowlsby - Hi Jeff, that car belongs to Greg T.'s son. He just bought it and I have looked it over and it is a very decent LE that has had 1 repaint. I will be there on Tuesday and ask Greg to check with his son and see if he minds if I check the VIN to see if it is already in the database, and if not, if I can add it. I do know he plans to restore it 100% stock.

[JeffBowlsby]

Hi Jeff @JeffBowlsby - Hi Jeff, that car belongs to Greg T.'s son. He just bought it and I have looked it over and it is a very decent LE that has had 1 repaint. I will be there on Tuesday and ask Greg to check with his son and see if he minds if I check the VIN to see if it is already in the database, and if not, if I can add it. I do know he plans to restore it 100% stock.

Thanks Michael. The registry is not set up for user modifications, but if you will send me the info I am happy to add it. I’ll need photos/data of as much of the following as is available:

VIN
City/state where located
Owners name/emaill
A few photos of the car
Cert of authenticity or PPS
Images of the two drivers door jamb plates (safety label & chassis number)
Engine/trans SN

Please email these to me. Thx!

[rgalla9146]

3.2 with the original Webers and fan housing assembly.

Sorry about the multiple posts!!

Mr. 4CamGT
Can't tell from the pics, could your car be Green Metallic, 914 6 code 83 ?

[4CamGT]

3.2 with the original Webers and fan housing assembly.

Sorry about the multiple posts!!

Mr. 4CamGT
Can't tell from the pics, could your car be Green Metallic, 914 6 code 83 ?

Yes it is (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[flat4guy]

Might have to plan a drive down that way to check out the progress.

[rgalla9146]

3.2 with the original Webers and fan housing assembly.

Sorry about the multiple posts!!

Mr. 4CamGT
Can't tell from the pics, could your car be Green Metallic, 914 6 code 83 ?

Yes it is (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Knew of it but have never seen it.
Very cool.
Love a 'sneaky' 6

[rick 918-S]

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/boldblue.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/boldblue.gif) Like the kids in the back seat - Does it run yet??? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/boldblue.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/boldblue.gif)

[Cairo94507]

I wish; I know you were joking. My car is at Chris' (Red Barn) and will be there for about 2 weeks more. I have to return some parts, order some parts and then it all has to get fitted.

Once that is done the car will go back to Greg's and we will do whatever is necessary to make any areas that had work look like they did before the work.

Then the 3.6 will go to Greg's and we will make the engine tins from a set of new 914-6 (Ben's) tins as well as the stock set of 993 tins and send them out for powder coating in satin black. We will do some service work on the 993, replace or refinish brackets, clips, clamps, etc., and then we can get her in the car. I am guessing 2 months overall. At least that is the road map.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

[4CamGT]

3.2 with the original Webers and fan housing assembly.

Sorry about the multiple posts!!

Mr. 4CamGT
Can't tell from the pics, could your car be Green Metallic, 914 6 code 83 ?

Yes it is (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Knew of it but have never seen it.
Very cool.
Love a 'sneaky' 6

Thank you! It runs amazing! It is by far the most fun and usable vintage Porsche that I have. Drives like a late 80’s Carrera but much lighter and faster. I don’t worry about it in traffic. The dual 930 coolers do a good job.

[Cairo94507]

Like Chris says, "If it were easy, everyone would do it". (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

After 2 days of researching coolers, fans, talking with the experts, I ordered a different Setrab oil cooler. I have to thank Marv at Setrab. He walked me through Oil Cooler 101 and I learned the cooler I got from PMS, a single-pass, would work. But better than that is the same cooler in double-pass configuration. The double-pass provides 5-8% better cooling and is their highest performance oil cooler. We are also going to go with 3 5.25" "puller" fans that move 340 CFM each. So that should be moving a lot of freakin' air.

[4CamGT]

Like Chris says, "If it were easy, everyone would do it". (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

After 2 days of researching coolers, fans, talking with the experts, I ordered a different Setrab oil cooler. I have to thank Marv at Setrab. He walked me through Oil Cooler 101 and I learned the cooler I got from PMS, a single-pass, would work. But better than that is the same cooler in double-pass configuration. The double-pass provides 5-8% better cooling and is their highest performance oil cooler. We are also going to go with 3 5.25" "puller" fans that move 340 CFM each. So that should be moving a lot of freakin' air.

I’m interested to see how well the louvered slots work vs opening up a rectangular hole as per factory GT. I like the idea of using the bulkhead holes. One idea I had early on was to fabricate a lengthened factory style shroud that extended to the rear floor holes. Maybe this could work with fan assist as an example of minimal mods that could be reversed?

[stevesc_us]

The rear was slightly flared from when it was new. So far I don’t know how to post more than one photo at a time! The Webers on mine work flawlessly. Fires up hot or cold immediatly almost like FI. It was dyno’d at 235hp.

Freeman, so nice to see you posting on this site! Could you elaborate further about the rear flares being done when it was new? Does that mean you finally did confirm they were done at the factory? For those that don’t know, this was my beloved car for 25 years! Here’s another pic of these unique rear flares.

Michael, sorry for the hijack on your thread.

[Cairo94507]

@stevesc_us No worries at all. That 6 looks just like one that use to run around Danville years ago; I always loved that car.

@4CamGT - If I did not already have the louvered floor, that would be a great approach. We will have to wait to see how effective the louvers are at venting the air out of the trunk. I am guessing 2 months before we have it installed and running. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[mepstein]

@stevesc_us No worries at all. That 6 looks just like one that use to run around Danville years ago; I always loved that car.

@4CamGT - If I did not already have the louvered floor, that would be a great approach. We will have to wait to see how effective the louvers are at venting the air out of the trunk. I am guessing 2 months before we have it installed and running. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

When I designed the louvered floor that Michael uses, I made sure it had ~2x the airflow as the PMS louvered panels. So it doesn’t look like a lot but it should continue to work well. I pulled out the round panels for my car. It wasn’t a matter of “one day going back to stock” I never will. It was just really easy. They are just held in with seam sealer.

[sixaddict]

One question keeps rolling around in my head …..unless you run the car on the track, if you already have a 3.2 why go through the expense (and mods) of going to a 3.6. I know you can never have too much horsepower, but seems like this may not actually improve drive ability. Don’t kill the messenger…..just wondering.
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[Cairo94507]

Yeah, I know. The 3.2 ran terrific, pulled like a freight train with the 964 cams and Steve Wong Chip and of course Ben's SS heat exchangers. But the 3.6 was just sitting there in the Classifieds for months....and I could not resist the fact it was a local, 18K mile, properly stored engine. Plus, though my car is not tracked or raced, why not? Oh, and hydraulic valve lifters too. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)