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Rufus |
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Sale Pending
The seller’s advertisement was very … positive … in stating: “Started no-expense spared restoration in 2014” when posting his advert in 2020 … it turns out this was 4-6 years after the seller made …“one of the few cost-control concessions” … by leaving the manufacturer’s moisture trapping tar-like floor covering rather than exposing the pans to bare metal, and just covering the floors with fresh paint ((IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) !). Two patches in the floors were found hidden under shutz underneath and fresh paint above ((IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)!). And then going on to state … “- Full repaint in original Tangerine (23) - Only minor surface rust repair needed in a few spots (above left rear taillight, below windshield frame, etc.). - No structural rust or other body damage. - New battery tray - the only body part that warranted replacement. No damage to longitudinal, underneath.” So I had Jeff Gamroth do a PPI for $1000, and after a positive report, bought 9140431482. Before being shipped across country to me, I had Rothsport perform work totaling $11,766 on the car. So now, after 4 years working futilely to clean up ‘1482’s mess, including discovering 2 floor pan patches covered by paint above and undercoating underneath, numerous floor pan thin spots, and being well into retirement, I don’t have time, resources, or motivation to continue. Resources, especially time, are way too precious. As described and shown in my Garage thread: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=368857 and in the 2020 advert link I bought it from: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...&hl=Genuine Sold as is, where is, with no warranty expressed or implied. Driven only 376 miles on dry pavement during my ownership. Complete running driving car before starting work last October to address recurring carb debris problems, then SS braid fuel line leak, and then exploring rust issues. Carbs cleaned and reinstalled, but remainder of fuel system is not installed. And while moving the 914/6 in the garage to keep the tires from becoming flat spotted, the engine was accidentally turned backward (According to Jeff Gamroth in conversation on 6/5/24, it’s not a problem as I originally thought.) In addition to the work done by Rothsport before my receipt, other work performed during my ownership (while not trying to complete reinstallation after rebuilding my ‘66 Corvette’s rear end; ‘1482 and the Corvette are garaged 60+ miles apart): new spark plugs, air filter elements, parking brake adjustment, rear caliper venting clearances checked & adjusted, removed spiral groove in gas tank outlet fitting sealing surface (like this from factory?), electric short in license light diagnosed & repaired, RF turn signal bucket replaced to restore function, low / high beam headlight malfunction repaired, Tangerine parking brake handle spring kit installed, all exterior lighting (except maybe license light?) changed over to LED’s, under dash wiring changed to isolate fog light operation from low beams, installed wiring & switch for hidden fuel pump shutoff, steering wheel shown in 2020 advert plus 380mm thick wrap (by Dallas Custom Steering Wheel) Porsche wheel included. New carb cross shaft bearing brackets included. Tangerine Racing shift linkage included but not installed. Gates Barricade fuel hose & F.I. clamps to complete fuel line installation included. Other misc included but not installed: 3rd brake light and strobe unit. Car is due for oil change and new brake fluid, the steering column mast jacket’s broken & held on with duct tape, and a clip’s missing from the LR caliper venting adjustment shaft. Clear NC title in my name in hand. Selling with my word of honor; no disappointments or surprises. PM if interested. |
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Hey nice rack! -Celette ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 20,646 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Is this the car in the garage that you spent 3 months complaining about? Now you want to sell it for near twice what you paid? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,807 Joined: 31-January 23 From: Granbury Texas Member No.: 27,135 Region Association: Southwest Region ![]() ![]() |
Maybe well played, Sir!
I was wondering about the strange pricing changes and after looking at this I think I see a pattern. You decide you want to be out of the car... You start up a STRANGE thread where it looks like you are trying to blame others for your plight. The guys who did the PI are partially at fault in my book! You piss everyone off. During the process you make everyone VERY AWARE of the car. The car really is quite decent and many on the forum might be interested in ownership. You start a for sale thread and price it SKY HIGH! Piss everyone off again! Then you start dropping the price... All of us are going to watch this add just to see how it comes out! Guys, he's dropped the price more than 4K in less than 24 hours... At this rate I'm damn interested in exactly when he's going to get "PMd you" as a response. Wouldn't surprise me if he gets close to what he has in it using this method! 3 or 4 days from now is my guess at the current time/discount rate. Hell of a way to make you "for sale" add really POP! Sell the car and "burn your bridges" at the same time... |
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can't remember ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,266 Joined: 3-June 11 From: Madison, WI Member No.: 13,152 Region Association: Upper MidWest ![]() ![]() |
Maybe well played, Sir! I was wondering about the strange pricing changes and after looking at this I think I see a pattern. You decide you want to be out of the car... You start up a STRANGE thread where it looks like you are trying to blame others for your plight. The guys who did the PI are partially at fault in my book! You piss everyone off. During the process you make everyone VERY AWARE of the car. The car really is quite decent and many on the forum might be interested in ownership. You start a for sale thread and price it SKY HIGH! Piss everyone off again! Then you start dropping the price... All of us are going to watch this add just to see how it comes out! Guys, he's dropped the price more than 4K in less than 24 hours... At this rate I'm damn interested in exactly when he's going to get "PMd you" as a response. Wouldn't surprise me if he gets close to what he has in it using this method! 3 or 4 days from now is my guess at the current time/discount rate. Hell of a way to make you "for sale" add really POP! Sell the car and "burn your bridges" at the same time... This from folks who don’t comment. |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 829 Joined: 22-January 09 From: Panama City Beach, FL Member No.: 9,961 Region Association: South East States ![]() ![]() |
Seems like time to recall an Old saying……….”.Don’t piss in the well” (today that you may need to drink from tomorrow).
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 22,184 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch ![]() |
This will not end well. I can almost hear the key turning. GLWTS.
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Rufus |
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 314 Joined: 8-April 06 Member No.: 5,840 Region Association: None ![]() ![]() |
The only paint imperfections I’m aware of:
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914-6 GT in waiting ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 19,480 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region ![]() ![]() |
The one below the sail panel isn’t a paint imperfection. It’s a rust bubble. Probably a lot more under the paint.
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 594 Joined: 24-April 10 From: Albany UpstateNY Member No.: 11,651 Region Association: None ![]() ![]() |
This will not end well. I can almost hear the key turning. GLWTS. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,807 Joined: 31-January 23 From: Granbury Texas Member No.: 27,135 Region Association: Southwest Region ![]() ![]() |
I was WRONG...
Less than 48 hours after my last post. Someone got a good car at a good price! An "auction in reverse"! I cannot fault an owner for trying to maximize his recovery as Rufus did... The other thread was strange, but effective IMO. He WAS serious about selling it! I hope the buyer is active on this forum and the story continues... |
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914 Wizard ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,480 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I was WRONG... Less than 48 hours after my last post. Someone got a good car at a good price! An "auction in reverse"! I cannot fault an owner for trying to maximize his recovery as Rufus did... The other thread was strange, but effective IMO. He WAS serious about selling it! I hope the buyer is active on this forum and the story continues... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Happy Ending / Beginning,,,, (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) |
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Yes, I was serious about selling, as well as about my bitter disappointment how things went with the car. I’d wanted a 914/6 since the 1980’s. But the whole bad experience makes enjoying a /6 a dream I’ll never realize. I can barely look at the car now.
Moving on to selling the Corvettes and eventually my ‘67S. Got my eyes on my next really fun project I’ve been collecting parts for; K24 swapping my ‘87 CRX Si. IMHO in some ways maybe not quite as fun to drive on twisties as a /6, but in others still incredibly fun to drive and meeting the challenge of tuning myself from the ground up. Gonna be kinda like going back to the best part of my career Oh … and BTW, it was never my intent to piss anyone off in sharing my findings with the /6. Didn’t decide to sell until the wee hours of Thursday night; it was a really difficult decision. But I feel a weight has been lifted. It was affecting my physical & mental health, and family relationships. I decided I had to get out! Seems that some didn’t like the direction I took, and chose how to respond. Ask any professional mental healthcare provider (like my wife & her daughter). A person’s response in getting angry is under their own control. 100% their own choice |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,807 Joined: 31-January 23 From: Granbury Texas Member No.: 27,135 Region Association: Southwest Region ![]() ![]() |
CRX sounds way neat!
I'm more vintage rice than vintage "schnaps" personally. I started my automotive career on Hondas. Very first car was a Honda 72 Z600 "Z coupe". That's a rare Honda (it was a POS!) The K24 is the single best 4-cylinder engine every produced by anyone IMO. For that I'd spec out equal length CV axles. You'll need a jack shaft and mount, The K24 already has the proper attachment points cast in the side of the block. LSD, I'd hunt down a Quaife for that. K20a2 head (if you can find one) is the easiest path to NA horsepower. There's a K24A2 (06 TSX motor) that a buddy has, probably in my future. Don't have a target vehicle yet! Wish you luck on your next project! CRXs are rusty now-a-days as well... Now, on the method used... You came off as a little unhinged at first. It got worse. And worse. Until the previous owner felt the need to defend himself publicly for a car he sold more than a 1000 days ago... You had a reasonable complaint initially at purchase, but the time involved negated ANY recourse IMO (and others, I believe). You DID NOT do "due diligence" yourself. You sent someone to inspect the car, they FAILED spectacularly, and you appeared to blame the PO. This is "THE CRAZY!" You, Sir, then psychologically tormented another automotive enthusiast who does not appear to be at fault. The shops screwed both of you IMO, but you did the "bullying". Just imagine this car coming back to haunt you three years from now in the same way. Karma works like that. I believe you owe MR an apology... I wonder what your wife or daughter would think about you as a patient? Oh, by the way, I'm not a concours purist type of guy but you are a bit on the OCD side if the level of rust that is in that 914 makes the car "impossible to look at". Been a "dream" since the 80s and you let it go over something so minor. Could have been used for the "twisties" just like it sits now (after neutralizing the current rust) for a couple of decades IMO. I wonder what it will be worth then? Multiply the value of the CRX (at that time) by 25 would be my guess and I'm "pro" Honda! Probably better someone else takes the reins... |
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I’m outta here
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I’m outta here (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/screwy.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/screwy.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/screwy.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/screwy.gif) |
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Rufus |
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I’ll be turning 74 in August; time is much more valuable to me than money. Therefore my goal is to get whatever I can from selling the 914/6 “as is”, the same for my ‘66 Vette, ‘67 Vette and ‘67 911S.
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,202 Joined: 26-May 15 From: Mount Airy, Maryland Member No.: 18,763 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region ![]() ![]() |
So did it sell? I thought you said you were leaving.
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,202 Joined: 26-May 15 From: Mount Airy, Maryland Member No.: 18,763 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region ![]() ![]() |
Wait it was 34k now it's up to 42k????????
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,807 Joined: 31-January 23 From: Granbury Texas Member No.: 27,135 Region Association: Southwest Region ![]() ![]() |
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