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jfs911
post May 26 2024, 08:28 PM
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Need your help please,
Have a 73 2ltr that i have been working on and i have lost the keys.
i have 2 parts cars, is it easy to pull the ignition cylinder and related parts from them?
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post May 26 2024, 09:06 PM
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Contact our lock resident expert @Thecabinetmaker
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post May 26 2024, 10:15 PM
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Did your ignition key work on the rear trunk? If so you can remove the trunk lick and that it to a locksmith who can make a key to match the lock. I have had it done for $35.
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post May 27 2024, 08:12 AM
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What Bruce said! If you can't get it done locally, I charge 30 for that. Be very careful when reinstalling the lock. The release tang on the back of the lock must be in the 12 o'clock position or the trunk will not open!
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post May 27 2024, 05:21 PM
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QUOTE(jfs911 @ May 26 2024, 09:28 PM) *

Need your help please,
Have a 73 2ltr that i have been working on and i have lost the keys.
i have 2 parts cars, is it easy to pull the ignition cylinder and related parts from them?
thanks
John

Can't say enough (good (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) about @cabinetmaker . He's your man!
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post May 28 2024, 04:49 AM
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Thank you everyone for your input,greatly appreciated.
I will check here locally.
Shipping to the States is expensive.

thx
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post May 29 2024, 10:39 AM
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QUOTE(TheCabinetmaker @ May 27 2024, 07:12 AM) *

What Bruce said! If you can't get it done locally, I charge 30 for that. Be very careful when reinstalling the lock. The release tang on the back of the lock must be in the 6 o'clock position or the trunk will not open!

Did you mean to say 12 o'clock?
Ask me how I know!
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post May 29 2024, 10:54 AM
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don't do it, call your vintage porsche dealer and they will look up the key code and cut a new one they have records back to 1972. Next is to remove the RIGHT door latch and have a locksmith cut one


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Need your help please,
Have a 73 2ltr that i have been working on and i have lost the keys.
i have 2 parts cars, is it easy to pull the ignition cylinder and related parts from them?
thanks
John

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post Jun 5 2024, 11:49 AM
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QUOTE(Valy @ May 29 2024, 11:39 AM) *

QUOTE(TheCabinetmaker @ May 27 2024, 07:12 AM) *

What Bruce said! If you can't get it done locally, I charge 30 for that. Be very careful when reinstalling the lock. The release tang on the back of the lock must be in the 6 o'clock position or the trunk will not open!

Did you mean to say 12 o'clock?
Ask me how I know!

Yes I did. Thanks
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post Jun 5 2024, 12:24 PM
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I wouldn't go to the dealer. Who knows if any of the lock cylinders have been changed or rekeyed.

You have two parts cars? Do you have keys for them? If so, just swap cylinders. I always rey key locks. Its easy.

There is a thread on the 928 forum of Rennlist that goes into detail. The method is similar.

Rennlist

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post Jun 5 2024, 01:01 PM
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Being a Porsche owner, you must be methodical in your approach to solving this problem.

1) Before you lost your key(s), did you have just one key that would lock and unlock both the doors, the rear trunk, the frunk, and turn the ignition on/off? If so, then all your car's lock systems are the originals from 1972 and matching. As someone already has already suggested, then you can simply take out the passenger door lock and have a local locksmith make a new key for you, or send it The Cabinetmaker on this site and have him make you a new set of keys. The reason for using the passenger door lock for making a new key is that the passenger door lock is the most likely lock to have tumblers with the least amount of wear on them. Alternatively, and as Dr.914 suggested, you can go to your local Porsche stealership and ask if they can order you a new set of keys based on your car's VIN and pay the Porsche tax for the privilege of doing so.

2) If you didn't have one key that would unlock/lock both doors, both trunks, and work the ignition, then your car has had its locks changed at sometime in its lifetime and they no longer match. In light of that, you will have to re-key all the locks and the ignition switch so the car be returned to its normal/original state of having one key work in all the lock systems. Again, The Cabinetmaker can help you do that, but you are going to have to remove all the locks and the ignition switch to have it done.
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post Jun 5 2024, 05:40 PM
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QUOTE(914sgofast2 @ Jun 5 2024, 02:01 PM) *

Being a Porsche owner, you must be methodical in your approach to solving this problem.

1) Before you lost your key(s), did you have just one key that would lock and unlock both the doors, the rear trunk, the frunk, and turn the ignition on/off? If so, then all your car's lock systems are the originals from 1972 and matching. As someone already has already suggested, then you can simply take out the passenger door lock and have a local locksmith make a new key for you, or send it The Cabinetmaker on this site and have him make you a new set of keys. The reason for using the passenger door lock for making a new key is that the passenger door lock is the most likely lock to have tumblers with the least amount of wear on them. Alternatively, and as Dr.914 suggested, you can go to your local Porsche stealership and ask if they can order you a new set of keys based on your car's VIN and pay the Porsche tax for the privilege of doing so.

2) If you didn't have one key that would unlock/lock both doors, both trunks, and work the ignition, then your car has had its locks changed at sometime in its lifetime and they no longer match. In light of that, you will have to re-key all the locks and the ignition switch so the car be returned to its normal/original state of having one key work in all the lock systems. Again, The Cabinetmaker can help you do that, but you are going to have to remove all the locks and the ignition switch to have it done.

Thanks for the plug! I'll add only this. The least used lock on the car is the glove box. It's also the hardest to remove! Front trunk cylinder is the 2nd least used is also the easiest to pull. Just pull the handle out, and remove the tiny screw from the bottom of the handle. Insert something in the key slot to retain the wafers and the cylinder will slide out.
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post Jun 5 2024, 09:06 PM
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Lost key on 2005 Cayenne

New key costs 450 bucks
100 flatbed
200 to sync key to car at dealership

No aftermarket choice for VW/Audi/Porsche

Hopefully I can drive it by the weekend

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post Jun 5 2024, 10:23 PM
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QUOTE(r_towle @ Jun 5 2024, 08:06 PM) *

Lost key on 2005 Cayenne

New key costs 450 bucks
100 flatbed
200 to sync key to car at dealership

No aftermarket choice for VW/Audi/Porsche

Hopefully I can drive it by the weekend


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post Jun 6 2024, 06:33 AM
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QUOTE(r_towle @ Jun 5 2024, 08:06 PM) *

Lost key on 2005 Cayenne

New key costs 450 bucks
100 flatbed
200 to sync key to car at dealership

No aftermarket choice for VW/Audi/Porsche

Hopefully I can drive it by the weekend


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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) Worse part is you will find the key an hour after you get the car back!
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post Jun 6 2024, 06:08 PM
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All done and back.
They washed it too.
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post Jun 9 2024, 06:26 AM
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I'd go to the Cabinetmaker. Just the best. I know this does not apply but he made me extra keys just from a close-up picture. Work great. Mark
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post Jun 9 2024, 03:48 PM
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QUOTE(rick 918-S @ Jun 6 2024, 08:33 AM) *

QUOTE(Krieger @ Jun 5 2024, 11:23 PM) *

QUOTE(r_towle @ Jun 5 2024, 08:06 PM) *

Lost key on 2005 Cayenne

New key costs 450 bucks
100 flatbed
200 to sync key to car at dealership

No aftermarket choice for VW/Audi/Porsche

Hopefully I can drive it by the weekend


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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) Worse part is you will find the key an hour after you get the car back!


All done it was nearly 1k...
BUT...as I told my wife who was giving me a hard time...
Still cheaper than her car payment (which I make).....
its what I call the annual cashectomy for my old paid off cars...they make shit up when they need cash.

I will be happy when I find that key some day....but I doubt it will happen.

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post Jun 9 2024, 03:58 PM
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$450 for a Smart key is normal!
The other charges are normal.

Wait till you do that same thing with an Infinity or a Volvo.

1K for the key is common...
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