 Early door to late door conversion, door parts question for the brain trust |
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| rgolia |
 Jul 25 2024, 12:07 PM
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GeoJoe  Group: Members Posts: 711 Joined: 5-February 10 From: PA Member No.: 11,329 Region Association: North East States 
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What seals/parts do I need when making the converion from and early door to a late door?
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| 914Sixer |
Jul 25 2024, 12:19 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,980 Joined: 17-January 05 From: San Angelo Texas Member No.: 3,457 Region Association: Southwest Region
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Don't was your time, just buy later doors.
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| mepstein |
Jul 25 2024, 12:48 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,480 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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His car is too nice to switch to other doors.
Ralph - if you need the scissor mech, I have a couple. No charge for you. Unfortunately, I don’t have later glass. I’m pretty sure doing the later door conversion requires some welding and fabrication. The “digging into hell” thread has a “how to”. My recommendation is to rehab the early mechanism and lube it up well. |
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| 914werke |
Jul 25 2024, 12:54 PM
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"I got blisters on me fingers" Group: Members Posts: 10,465 Joined: 22-March 03 From: USofA Member No.: 453 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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| bdstone914 |
Jul 25 2024, 01:19 PM
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bdstone914 Group: Members Posts: 4,642 Joined: 8-November 03 From: Riverside CA Member No.: 1,319 |
As Rich showed you need to weld in a plateto attach the roller track. You also need the front aluminum window guide, large glass, window roller tracts, scissor winders. I have some of those parts.
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| rgolia |
Jul 25 2024, 02:11 PM
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GeoJoe Group: Members Posts: 711 Joined: 5-February 10 From: PA Member No.: 11,329 Region Association: North East States
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So my bad for the limited explanation for mt question. My car is a 1974. Back in 1975-76 I guy backed into me and the door had to be replaced. The body shop put an early door on the car. I now have a late door that I am having painted and blended into the car. The door I have does not have any of the weather stripping. I think I can use some of the rubber on the early door, but I know I need some new stuff, like the fuzzy channesl front and rear. In addition, is the triangel seal the same early and late?
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| Steve |
Jul 25 2024, 03:22 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,669 Joined: 14-June 03 From: Orange County, CA Member No.: 822 Region Association: Southern California
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I've heard different responses, but from my experience the tops also match the doors. Later doors require late tops or you end up with a window gap.
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| dr914@autoatlanta.com |
Jul 25 2024, 04:48 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,033 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
you have to weld in a piece to the inner structure. These days, now that new early window regulators are available, no reason to convert
QUOTE(rgolia @ Jul 25 2024, 11:07 AM)  What seals/parts do I need when making the converion from and early door to a late door? |
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| peteinjp |
Jul 25 2024, 07:55 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 209 Joined: 15-July 21 From: Japan Member No.: 25,723 Region Association: None
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Are new OEM regulators for the early doors available from the factory or are they aftermarket parts?
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| Optimusglen |
Jul 25 2024, 08:16 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 917 Joined: 26-February 16 From: Minneapolis Member No.: 19,709 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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QUOTE(Steve @ Jul 25 2024, 04:22 PM) I've heard different responses, but from my experience the tops also match the doors. Later doors require late tops or you end up with a window gap. Ah, that's interesting. @rudedude it sounds like I need a late top too, if you happen to have any. Diggin around in old threads, these photos should help identify early/late tops. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-6031-1182397877.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-6031-1182397811.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-6031-1182398257.jpg) |
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| rudedude |
Jul 27 2024, 12:09 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 515 Joined: 1-January 05 From: minneapolis, mn Member No.: 3,387 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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Glen,
I’m out of town until Monday and I will look for you. Get doors fit? Jule |
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| 914werke |
Jul 27 2024, 03:39 PM
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"I got blisters on me fingers" Group: Members Posts: 10,465 Joined: 22-March 03 From: USofA Member No.: 453 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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QUOTE(bdstone914 @ Jul 25 2024, 12:19 PM) You also need the front (anodized) aluminum window guide assembly, large (roll up) glass, (rear) window roller tract, scissor (regulator) . you also need the late fuzzy seal guide that installs horizontally, + the guide fuzzy seals. The wing (triangle) window is interchangeable. I have all this stuff (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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