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post Oct 19 2024, 10:13 AM
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I have a 64c that I am going to start a driving restoration on. I have a good type 4 with carbs. Does anyone have any info on mounting it into the 356?

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post Oct 19 2024, 11:12 AM
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post Oct 19 2024, 12:13 PM
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A big production to do it while ruining the value of the car. If you do not have an engine you can find a good 912 engine and install


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I have a 64c that I am going to start a driving restoration on. I have a good type 4 with carbs. Does anyone have any info on mounting it into the 356?

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post Oct 19 2024, 01:12 PM
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A big production to do it while ruining the value of the car. If you do not have an engine you can find a good 912 engine and install


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I have a 64c that I am going to start a driving restoration on. I have a good type 4 with carbs. Does anyone have any info on mounting it into the 356?

Matt



You can keep the original motor for later.

`64 356c is about 74 HP. 2.0 liter 914 motor about 100 HP, more with mods (maybe even 125 to 130 HP) and reliable. That's a good enough for me.
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post Oct 20 2024, 06:15 AM
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"A big production" please explain...
"ruining the value of the car" I don't have original engine. type 4 is temporary. Car value will not change and if anything, will increase due to road worthy.

I plan to put a 912 engine in. I just need to find one that I can rebuild.
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A big production to do it while ruining the value of the car. If you do not have an engine you can find a good 912 engine and install


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I have a 64c that I am going to start a driving restoration on. I have a good type 4 with carbs. Does anyone have any info on mounting it into the 356?

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post Oct 20 2024, 06:17 AM
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Thank you. I was looking more into the clutch, flywheel, starter parts fitting.
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post Oct 20 2024, 06:43 AM
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Don't do it
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post Oct 20 2024, 06:56 AM
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post Oct 20 2024, 08:26 AM
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QUOTE(mate914 @ Oct 20 2024, 05:17 AM) *

Thank you. I was looking more into the clutch, flywheel, starter parts fitting.
Matt


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https://lnengineering.com/type-4-store/dtm-...ng-systems.html


years ago I did this on my 912 ,easy and worthwhile conversion. not so sure I would do it today for a bunch of reasons. in 2000 I considered doing it to my 356C as I had several engines laying around and the 356 engine had spun a main. the t4 flywheel/clutch wont fit into the transaxle without some serious grinding. and then you are faced with fabbing up some kind of starter mount. most conversions go for a 901 trans and all the associated fabrications to make that work. the car CANNOT remain stock and you won't be going back.
looking back I'm really glad I didn't do it (still have the car, running very well with original engine). If you must have a temporary motor, a t1 vw is a better choice.
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post Oct 20 2024, 10:16 AM
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Jake Raby has done that conversion for decades and made it reversible. He doesn’t sell a kit but if I planned to do it, I wouldn’t hesitate to pay him a consulting fee. At the very least, he might be able to point you to some good build threads.
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post Oct 20 2024, 10:27 AM
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Thank you Mark.

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Jake Raby has done that conversion for decades and made it reversible. He doesn’t sell a kit but if I planned to do it, I wouldn’t hesitate to pay him a consulting fee. At the very least, he might be able to point you to some good build threads.
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post Oct 20 2024, 12:39 PM
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post Oct 20 2024, 01:43 PM
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You could always use a v10 out of a viper! You might loose some of your back seat (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cheer.gif)


or, I have an extra 355 5 valve engine collecting dust
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post Oct 20 2024, 01:56 PM
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If someone is interested, I have a friend that just acquired a decent pile of 356 parts including anengine, some cooling shrouds, carbs etc, and set of date coded wheels, and some rare rear brakes, and some other misc, items, I know he is looking to sell all of it.
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post Oct 21 2024, 04:39 AM
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You could always use a v10 out of a viper! You might loose some of your back seat (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cheer.gif)


What the hell are you talking about? Where in the post did it say ANY thing about v10's or vipers?

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post Oct 21 2024, 04:43 AM
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QUOTE(Front yard mechanic @ Oct 20 2024, 12:39 PM) *

You could always use a v10 out of a viper! You might loose some of your back seat (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cheer.gif)


or, I have an extra 355 5 valve engine collecting dust




Again I can't read minds. What are you talking about? Are you trying to be funny or insulting?
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post Oct 21 2024, 07:58 AM
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I can see the appeal of this. Given the high cost of getting a known well built 356/912 motor, going with a known TypeIV is a good alternative. Anything that gets another 356 on the road is worth it, granted you don't destroy parts of the car to make it happen.

Also, it's your car, do whatch ya like!
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Could you have a flywheel made to fit and utilize the stock T/O bearing and starter?
The flywheels were 180 or 200mm, have one made that bolts to the t4, but with the 356-912 ring gear and clutch/pressure plate.
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post Oct 21 2024, 08:24 AM
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This kit allows you to put a 901 into a 356B or C. If you don't use the 356 style clutch assembly, you can use a Type IV engine on it.

https://356-5speed.com/
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We have ads like this pop up frequently for lots of 356 parts. You can search this area once in a while and contact people to see what they have.
https://denver.craigslist.org/pts/d/commerc...7789042806.html
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