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| orangecrate |
 Oct 19 2024, 07:04 PM
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Getting ready to install a rebuilt engine in my car and it feels a little stiff. I did not do the work (means nothing) and not really familiar with these engines. (Type 4) So what should it take to spin this thing? Rotating torque on a short block. Plugs out. Never ran. Stock engine. Thanks Robin
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| fixer34 |
Oct 19 2024, 07:19 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,170 Joined: 16-September 14 From: Chicago area Member No.: 17,908 Region Association: Upper MidWest 
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QUOTE(orangecrate @ Oct 19 2024, 08:04 PM)  Getting ready to install a rebuilt engine in my car and it feels a little stiff. I did not do the work (means nothing) and not really familiar with these engines. (Type 4) So what should it take to spin this thing? Rotating torque on a short block. Plugs out. Never ran. Stock engine. Thanks Robin If you can't grab the flywheel with one hand and turn it, something isn't right. |
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| orangecrate |
Oct 20 2024, 07:08 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 162 Joined: 16-September 13 From: Apache Junction AZ Member No.: 16,394 Region Association: Southwest Region |
QUOTE(fixer34 @ Oct 19 2024, 06:19 PM) QUOTE(orangecrate @ Oct 19 2024, 08:04 PM) Getting ready to install a rebuilt engine in my car and it feels a little stiff. I did not do the work (means nothing) and not really familiar with these engines. (Type 4) So what should it take to spin this thing? Rotating torque on a short block. Plugs out. Never ran. Stock engine. Thanks Robin If you can't grab the flywheel with one hand and turn it, something isn't right. Ya That's not happenin. My beam/pointer torque wrench says somewhere in the neighborhood of 20 lb/ft. |
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| mepstein |
Oct 20 2024, 07:37 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,570 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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On a short block there should be almost no resistance. Just the friction of the assembly lube on the bearing surfaces.
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| Shivers |
Oct 20 2024, 08:18 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2,753 Joined: 19-October 20 From: La Quinta, CA Member No.: 24,781 Region Association: Southern California |
QUOTE(orangecrate @ Oct 20 2024, 06:08 AM) QUOTE(fixer34 @ Oct 19 2024, 06:19 PM) QUOTE(orangecrate @ Oct 19 2024, 08:04 PM) Getting ready to install a rebuilt engine in my car and it feels a little stiff. I did not do the work (means nothing) and not really familiar with these engines. (Type 4) So what should it take to spin this thing? Rotating torque on a short block. Plugs out. Never ran. Stock engine. Thanks Robin If you can't grab the flywheel with one hand and turn it, something isn't right. Ya That's not happenin. My beam/pointer torque wrench says somewhere in the neighborhood of 20 lb/ft. Check the dizzy drive, make sure it is meshed with the gear on the crank. Make sure when you check the flywheel see that they didn’t shim it too tight. I’ve pulled them apart and found A main bearing that didn’t have the guide pin in the hole and it squashed the bearing to the crank |
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| orangecrate |
Oct 20 2024, 10:14 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 162 Joined: 16-September 13 From: Apache Junction AZ Member No.: 16,394 Region Association: Southwest Region |
QUOTE(Shivers @ Oct 20 2024, 07:18 AM) QUOTE(orangecrate @ Oct 20 2024, 06:08 AM) QUOTE(fixer34 @ Oct 19 2024, 06:19 PM) QUOTE(orangecrate @ Oct 19 2024, 08:04 PM) Getting ready to install a rebuilt engine in my car and it feels a little stiff. I did not do the work (means nothing) and not really familiar with these engines. (Type 4) So what should it take to spin this thing? Rotating torque on a short block. Plugs out. Never ran. Stock engine. Thanks Robin If you can't grab the flywheel with one hand and turn it, something isn't right. Ya That's not happenin. My beam/pointer torque wrench says somewhere in the neighborhood of 20 lb/ft. Check the dizzy drive, make sure it is meshed with the gear on the crank. Make sure when you check the flywheel see that they didn’t shim it too tight. I’ve pulled them apart and found A main bearing that didn’t have the guide pin in the hole and it squashed the bearing to the crank Thanks too all. I am going to tear this down myself so any other suspious things to look for will be greatly appreciated. Last time I did anything like this was almost 60 years ago!!! SBC and it blew up 2wks later!!! Left me a little gunshy. I was only 16. Not very meticulous. Right now I got more time than money and it's supposed to be a "new" engine ...or at least new parts. We shall see. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I got 4 different manuals ,including the factory shop manual so maybe I can get it right this time. |
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| 930cabman |
Oct 20 2024, 03:02 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,618 Joined: 12-November 20 From: Buffalo Member No.: 24,877 Region Association: North East States
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QUOTE(orangecrate @ Oct 20 2024, 10:14 AM) QUOTE(Shivers @ Oct 20 2024, 07:18 AM) QUOTE(orangecrate @ Oct 20 2024, 06:08 AM) QUOTE(fixer34 @ Oct 19 2024, 06:19 PM) QUOTE(orangecrate @ Oct 19 2024, 08:04 PM) Getting ready to install a rebuilt engine in my car and it feels a little stiff. I did not do the work (means nothing) and not really familiar with these engines. (Type 4) So what should it take to spin this thing? Rotating torque on a short block. Plugs out. Never ran. Stock engine. Thanks Robin If you can't grab the flywheel with one hand and turn it, something isn't right. Ya That's not happenin. My beam/pointer torque wrench says somewhere in the neighborhood of 20 lb/ft. Check the dizzy drive, make sure it is meshed with the gear on the crank. Make sure when you check the flywheel see that they didn’t shim it too tight. I’ve pulled them apart and found A main bearing that didn’t have the guide pin in the hole and it squashed the bearing to the crank Thanks too all. I am going to tear this down myself so any other suspious things to look for will be greatly appreciated. Last time I did anything like this was almost 60 years ago!!! SBC and it blew up 2wks later!!! Left me a little gunshy. I was only 16. Not very meticulous. Right now I got more time than money and it's supposed to be a "new" engine ...or at least new parts. We shall see. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I got 4 different manuals ,including the factory shop manual so maybe I can get it right this time. Research and repeat several times and most of all take your time. So long as you are not all thumbs, you will be fine |
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Oct 20 2024, 06:24 PM
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can't remember Group: Members Posts: 3,318 Joined: 3-June 11 From: Madison, WI Member No.: 13,152 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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QUOTE(orangecrate @ Oct 20 2024, 09:14 AM) QUOTE(Shivers @ Oct 20 2024, 07:18 AM) QUOTE(orangecrate @ Oct 20 2024, 06:08 AM) QUOTE(fixer34 @ Oct 19 2024, 06:19 PM) QUOTE(orangecrate @ Oct 19 2024, 08:04 PM) Getting ready to install a rebuilt engine in my car and it feels a little stiff. I did not do the work (means nothing) and not really familiar with these engines. (Type 4) So what should it take to spin this thing? Rotating torque on a short block. Plugs out. Never ran. Stock engine. Thanks Robin If you can't grab the flywheel with one hand and turn it, something isn't right. Ya That's not happenin. My beam/pointer torque wrench says somewhere in the neighborhood of 20 lb/ft. Check the dizzy drive, make sure it is meshed with the gear on the crank. Make sure when you check the flywheel see that they didn’t shim it too tight. I’ve pulled them apart and found A main bearing that didn’t have the guide pin in the hole and it squashed the bearing to the crank Thanks too all. I am going to tear this down myself so any other suspious things to look for will be greatly appreciated. Last time I did anything like this was almost 60 years ago!!! SBC and it blew up 2wks later!!! Left me a little gunshy. I was only 16. Not very meticulous. Right now I got more time than money and it's supposed to be a "new" engine ...or at least new parts. We shall see. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I got 4 different manuals ,including the factory shop manual so maybe I can get it right this time. Sounds like you are on the right track. The fact that you stopped to ask is a really good sign. |
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| sixnotfour |
Oct 22 2024, 06:55 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,584 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains 
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check ernd play first
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