north east scca car raby, any info or pics of this car? Options

[randyt914]

bought this east coast racer. Built up on the east coast by tangerine racing and engine by Rat. 2300+. Picked it up this week and was looking for any info re racing history. thanks thanks in advance!

[randyt914]

got some paperwork today this was owned by a John Hanson of Kingston NH.

[Shivers]

got some paperwork today this was owned by a John Hanson of Kingston NH.

If you think this may be your guy, I put a link at the bottom.





https://ncr-pca.org/images/stories/Northlander/2006-06.pdf

[randyt914]

got some paperwork today this was owned by a John Hanson of Kingston NH.

If you think this may be your guy, I put a link at the bottom.





https://ncr-pca.org/images/stories/Northlander/2006-06.pdf

many thanks! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif)

[brant]

Those are the old PCA rules

The car won’t transition legally with that motor into vintage

Still good for some unlimited classes in PCA or nasa,DE
But the motor won’t t be legal for 914 classes. Because rules

[randyt914]

Those are the old PCA rules

The car won’t transition legally with that motor into vintage

Still good for some unlimited classes in PCA or nasa,DE
But the motor won’t t be legal for 914 classes. Because rules

Love the imput thanks...i knw the rules have changed but i could not let this one go....i tried to let it go but i kept having nightmares of it passing me on the track. Jake says it was a deal and i've heard brad roberts was second in line...

[randyt914]

206.9 hp says the dyno

[GregAmy]

Yes, northeast autocross car.

Chris Foley and I partnered in buying it from the owner in NH, Jan Hansen. It was owned by a couple and extensively autocrossed up here, it's well-known among the older autocrossers in New England.

Chris built the chassis/rollcage in 2001, Raby built the engine (2.4L?) and it has one of Chris' original exhaust systems on it. Dual big-bore Webers, as I recall.

One partner passed away and in June 2020 Jan contacted Chris to see if he was interested in buying it. We agreed to buy it and Chris and I drove up there and grabbed the car and cleaned out the garage - they had a TON of 914 stuff all over.

On the way home from NH I called my racing buddy Ed Werry in NJ because I knew he was looking for a historics car (we race SCCA Club). Ed bought it sight unseen.

I've attached photos he got on it then, plus one when we picked it up (Jan is the in green shirt) and one in my buddy Ed's driveway.

Ed had it at his house for a while and was planning to turn it into a vintage/historics racer to run with me in my historics racer. We have very few regs limitations up here with the various sanctioning bodies (they just toss us in a speed-appropriate group) and we don't run PCA, SCCA is our "srs bzns" racing. Unfortunately, other priorities on building/maintaining our HProd Toyota MR2 and EProd Civic Si had Ed deciding to sell it.

Before it went away, Ed got the car basically running on an external fuel tank but never progressed past that. The Raby book that came with it is quite extensive on the details and was the major buying and selling point.

The car was sold to a guy in California and I think he had it up for sale here so you might search around for the listing. It was also listed on Facebook in one or both of the popular 914 groups, which I can find if you like.

As I recall the cage was SCCA-compliant but it went away before I could issue it a logbook. There's a few safety things I would change but I do recall it "had good bones". And with that engine it'll be a hoot to drive.

That's pretty much all I can recall on it.

I've copied a few notes below from the original email that Chris got. I don't know if Jan is still around, but I can inquire if you're interested. I can also ask around New England Region as to who remembers the car and can offer some insight.

Let's see if someone can finally get this project going! - Greg


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It's a 1971 Porsche 914 that had just over 50K miles on it when we bought it in late 1987. It had just been brought up from Virginia by a young guy he met in night school and hadn't seen winter weather in New England. I have a Virginia title for the car and the VIN plates are still present. We registered it for the road for one year when he [John Hansen] autocrossed it in a stock class, driving to a couple SCCA events. It had always been trailered after that since we bought it to be used as a racer.
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The car has a Jake Raby 2316cc Type IV engine rated at 207 hp with 191 lb/ft of torque (dyno sheet and full build documentation is available) that was built from a two liter core. The car has AIR fiberglass body panels and weighs 1608 pounds. The glass has been removed and substituted with Lexan and Polycarbonate...An eight gallon fuel cell is in the front trunk with stainless steel lines to the engine. It does require 110 octane racing fuel (Cam2 or Sunoco). There is a Quaife ATB Helical LSD differential (installed by Gary Fairbanks) in the transmission with stock gearing connected to a lightened and balanced flywheel and clutch assembly. It sits on 8x 15 Keyser Aluminum wheels with Carrera brand springs and shocks optimized for this chassis (by Bill Gendron/Small Fortune Racing). The steering wheel has a quick disconnect to facilitate getting in and out easily.

Reading the notes I have it appears there are 10 to 15 hours of run time on the engine, with about half being idling or motoring in the pits. The car was set up for autocross, running in either PCA Modified or SCCA E Mod in its current iteration.

The brake and fuel systems would need to be flushed as the car had not been run a couple years. As expected the engine would need to be looked at as well since a few years have passed since its been run. He just never got back to the sport.

[randyt914]

I am so thankful for your detailed reply. I would love to include the history of the hanson family in the binder. The car is running and will undergo a shakedown on the 11th in Tuscon Az. The engine case is a "W" 1.7 and is the best and only case jake will use as a big case build. I have the binder and would love to start another binder re the history and owners. Thanks again you have made my year already. Christmas came a bit late for me but i could not be happier. I bought it from a guy named taylor and he just had another project to attend to. I feel lucky to be part of this cars journey. Did the car have a nick name?

[randyt914]

any chance you can send the pictures to my email @ Randyt914@yahoo.com thanks again.

[GregAmy]

Done.

BTW, I have that green airdam and side skirts (first photo) at my house in Middletown CT if anyone wants to toss some racing cash at me...I was going to use them on my racer but decided to pass on that.

I doubt shipping would be cost-effective and would definitely be a PITA. - GA

[randyt914]

Greg i would love to hear your recommendations for improvements. I am still learning the car.

[Charles Freeborn]

Cool Car.

[GregAmy]

Greg i would love to hear your recommendations for improvements. I am still learning the car.

I didn't get deep into the car, it was mostly a peripheral look-see. But an 8-gallon cell may not really be enough but it's worth a try depending on how long your local track sessions are. The cell would need to be taken apart and cleaned up, and the bladder checked really closely (SCCA no longer requires replacements by date). Foam would need to be cleaned out and replaced and maybe install a Hollo Hydromat pickup for that small cell size.

I think it has a Butler seat, yeah? I don't mind those but check it out carefully, and how it's mounted. You'll need new harnesses, and I think it needs a window net?

For the cage, find a local SCCA or PCA tech inspector that can give it a close look to ensure it meets current specs. Chris built that cage in 2001 so I trust the workmanship sight-unseen but there's been some regs changes in SCCA, like dual doors bars both sides, that it may have missed.

If you plan to run it top off, sit in it with the seat config and see if you meet the 2" "broomstick test". Mine, also built by Chris in 1999, did not because it was always intended to run top on (yup, orgs consider your car a closed top car with that plastic roof in place, waiving the broomstick requirement). To resolve that on mine, I cut the headrest off the Butler seat and mounted it to the floor as far back as possible and tilted it back so I'm more reclined, then remounted the headrest in an appropriate place on brackets to the rollcage. Now I can run it top on or off (with arm restraints).

All fuel lines cleaned out, of course. Carbs cleaned and rebuilt. Pull the exhaust and make sure no critters decided to make it a home (has it been run lately?)

Dampers removed and probably rebuilt. Suspension full inspection nut and bolt.

Brakes full inspection and flush.

I'd just go through the whole thing and look for stuff that you don't like, keepin in mind that it's your ass out there you're trying to protect.

[ChrisFoley]

Hi Randy,
I had no idea that was the car you were talking about on the phone with me last week.
That roll cage and exhaust were done more than 20 years ago.
I have trouble remembering what I did last week. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[randyt914]

pictures always bring back memories! Happy new year Chris...I am going through the entire car and hope to have it done by the 11th for a shakedown. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif)

[randyt914]

Hi Randy,
I had no idea that was the car you were talking about on the phone with me last week.
That roll cage and exhaust were done more than 20 years ago.
I have trouble remembering what I did last week. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

i just spoke to jan hansen and had a great conversation re this racer. I will be putting together previous pictures of this car ....and sending her copies. Thanks

[randyt914]

914world is the best!

[randyt914]

[GregAmy]

Fantastic.