About racing a 914 with a swap..., What class? Does the PCA care? Options

[Aaron Cox]

stick with the porsche six.... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smilie_pokal.gif)

[Matt Monson]

QUOTE (Ferg @ Aug 30 2005, 09:22 AM)

Just pull the motor out the the boss's racecar when he's not looking (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/happy11.gif) . I'm sure he wouldn't mind. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif) Ferg

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/w00t.gif) Now that's an idea...

[flesburg]

Brant and Matt,

Good information...re DE with a non Pcar.

I think too, right?, that the other comment was correct, that is about big Pcar swaps and club racing...

With our "stock" 3.2 engine, in a Club race, we end up in GT3, and are up against $100K (or more) cars, and so are totally non-competitive. We cannot even keep up with GT5 cars, because of HP and rpm they can turn.

So, if you want to race in Club racing, and you want to be competitive, and your build budget is under 50 or 70 thou, you should stay out of GT classes and stay in a production class, and that limits you to a 2.0 L 6 in a 914 (and it may have to be an "original" six, I'm not sure, or run with a stock 4 cyl 914 (and then you may still be up against non-turbo 944s and not be competitive against them.

The least expensive club race cars in PCA are 944 non-turbos. You can probably be in a production class and have a competitive car for $20 thou or less.

For all of these reasons, we stick to DE events, are instructors, and drive our car as fast as it will go (and it is pretty fast, just not a car that can win in its class). We can out run most any Class F 944 turbo, and most 911s and totally piss them off. (Most of our club racers run in all our DE events too).

[brant]

Dale,

I ran PCA club racing with a production 2.0/4 from around 96 until 02
I completely agree.

if running production class buy a 944 NA
(actually Matt, your 24S is the car to have in class "I" the way i figure it)

or GT5 if running a 914/6

a production 914/6 has to run a stock motor with stock venturi's and 110hp.
not a competetive car.

yes a 3.2 will kill you unless its a real race car.
yes a competetive car needs to be dedicated and fairly expensive.
dedicated track car with under 2000 lbs

although there are bargains out there.
my friend built a GT3-914 with an electromotive 3.3L
it was a TTOD car at 9 out of 10 events it attended.
(the 10th event it was pulled in while in 1st place so as to let someone else win)
and it recently traded hands for 25K

so there are options out there.

but all of us non rich guys just build porsche motor'd cars and go have fun.
I will be running a stock 2.0S motor in the GT5 class in about 3 weeks.
I don't expect to beat the 2.2 motors in that class....
but I know I will have 5 or 6 other cars to play with and just plain have fun..
and thats what its all about really... having fun.

brant