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Hi,
I have been at it for a few weeks, using GUNK, Brake Cleaner, Electronic cleaners, scrubbing with drill driven scrubbing attachments, Dawn and then assorted other potions. I am left with a dull stained magnesium. I know that Vapor Blast is the best way, however, I cannot lug the engine to the Blaster outfit, Has anything worked well for you? Thank you Teeners! |
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914-6 GT in waiting ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 19,811 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region ![]() ![]() |
What's your goal? No matter how clean and shiny you make mag, it's going to go grey. It's a very reactive metal so it won't stay shiny for long.
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,084 Joined: 9-June 18 From: boston Member No.: 22,206 Region Association: North East States ![]() ![]() |
What's your goal? No matter how clean and shiny you make mag, it's going to go grey. It's a very reactive metal so it won't stay shiny for long. Good guidance, thank you - I will post some pics, my goal is to get it more uniformed, it is stained in a variety of places within white/gray as well as darker stains that may be oil, etc. More to come |
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914-6 GT in waiting ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 19,811 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region ![]() ![]() |
Here’s a mag trans that I’m rebuilding for myself. It looked pretty rough until I vapor blasted it (glass bead and water under pressure). It looks like aluminum until I drop it in the ultrasonic and then it turns back to grey. But I have a feeling you’re talking about a complete engine, not individual parts. Dry ice blasting might do it but the downside is when it blows a lot of debris into the nooks and crannies of the car. There’s not a lot engine showing in a 914 so maybe live with the discoloration until it’s time to overhaul the engine one day.
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"If there is a mistake it will find me" ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,374 Joined: 1-April 09 From: Los Angeles, CA Member No.: 10,225 Region Association: Southern California ![]() |
Aren’t our engines aluminum?
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914-6 GT in waiting ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 19,811 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region ![]() ![]() |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 702 Joined: 10-May 13 From: El Dorado Hills, CA Member No.: 15,855 Region Association: None ![]() |
The Type 4 engines in our typical 914's are all aluminum cases, with aluminum heads and cast iron cylinders. The transmissions are magnesium cases. The 914-6 has a Porsche 911 engine with aluminum heads, cast iron cylinders, and a magnesium engine case.
For a very detailed description of how to thoroughly clean a Type 4 engine case at home without any type of blasting, go to the Samba.com website and search in the VW Type 411/412 Forum for the thread on doing a 1.8 liter engine's "cheap, junk rebuild". The same info can be found on the ShopTalkForum.com website for Type 4 engines by searching for the "Cheap, Junk Rebuild" of a 1.8 liter engine by the same author. |
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Aren’t our engines aluminum? I thought he was referring to a 914-6 engine but I’m just assuming…, yes, the fours are aluminum. except for the fan shroud casting. i believe that is magnesium alloy. its the one bit that is in fact very visible. |
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914-6 GT in waiting ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 19,811 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region ![]() ![]() |
Aren’t our engines aluminum? I thought he was referring to a 914-6 engine but I’m just assuming…, yes, the fours are aluminum. except for the fan shroud casting. i believe that is magnesium alloy. its the one bit that is in fact very visible. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) |
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Aren’t our engines aluminum? I thought he was referring to a 914-6 engine but I’m just assuming…, yes, the fours are aluminum. except for the fan shroud casting. i believe that is magnesium alloy. its the one bit that is in fact very visible. Yup. After blasting mine I painted with clear epoxy. Attached thumbnail(s) ![]() |
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914 Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,320 Joined: 3-August 19 From: SW Colorado Member No.: 23,343 Region Association: Rocky Mountains ![]() ![]() |
Here's a photo from a year and a half later, after one (short) season on the road. The housing is a little darker but still looks silver.
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,725 Joined: 6-May 20 From: north antarctica Member No.: 24,231 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille ![]() ![]() |
Here's a photo from a year and a half later, after one (short) season on the road. The housing is a little darker but still looks silver. neat. much better than painting it silver like a lot of folks do. really hits the mark appearance wise. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,084 Joined: 9-June 18 From: boston Member No.: 22,206 Region Association: North East States ![]() ![]() |
Here are some pics,
I cannot have it hydro blasted - pecan shells are not working, soft wire brushes seem to do the trick.. Engine condition prior to brushing ![]() After Brushing ![]() Cam Chain Box Prior ![]() Cam Chain Box After ![]() I will be brushing the fins and other smaller parts - trying not to MAR the parts but I believe that ship sailed More to come |
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