 The neo914-6 Concept, the details... |
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| neo914-6 |
 Sep 2 2005, 02:03 AM
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neo life  Group: Members Posts: 5,086 Joined: 16-January 03 From: Willow Glen (San Jose) Member No.: 159  |
neo914 purpose: An exercise in creative design, to promote the enthusiasm for the 914 and introduce new ideas, designs, and components not previously installed on a 914…
"neo" translates to "New" in German thus "neo914-6" What would a 914-6 look like today? Imagine the character of the 914 we all “grew” to love retained in a modern version… Design sketched 8/05:  Car shown at SEMA 11/06:  Original 914 design:  Guests, please create a membership and log in to view the signature links and post comments if you like. Click the links (over 70) to detailed threads (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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| neo914-6 |
Sep 2 2005, 02:04 AM
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neo life Group: Members Posts: 5,086 Joined: 16-January 03 From: Willow Glen (San Jose) Member No.: 159 |
Let’s start with a great race prepared 914, with track success… (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif)
Bill’s and Doris’ car  |
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| neo914-6 |
Sep 2 2005, 02:05 AM
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neo life Group: Members Posts: 5,086 Joined: 16-January 03 From: Willow Glen (San Jose) Member No.: 159 |
Add metal hand shaped flares by Metalshaper John Kelly and 18" diameter wheels.
See more details of John's work  |
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| neo914-6 |
Sep 2 2005, 02:10 AM
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neo life Group: Members Posts: 5,086 Joined: 16-January 03 From: Willow Glen (San Jose) Member No.: 159 |
Drivetrain candidates were: Audis, 996 w/G50, and even New BMW/Mini. I already did a domestic V8 conversion and it truly wouldn't fit this theme. Had my bid for a Cayenne V8 twin turbo motor been high enough, it would have had a great “cool” factor ala Rick Ollah's 928 "alien"! It would have also added at least a year in making it and the 4WD work...
I decided to maintain plausible factory constraints: Use Porsche / Audi / VW drive train parts as in the Cayenne's example: QUOTE "The first V6 in any Porsche model" While the engine block is sourced from Volkswagen, which is Porsche’s partner in the construction of the 2004 Cayenne’s unit-body chassis, the 15-degree, 3.2-liter V6 engine has been extensively reworked by Porsche engineers. They designed an entirely new intake system for the engine, with two overhead camshafts and continuously variable intake valve timing. They also reworked the exhaust system to provide the sound that immediately identifies the Cayenne as a true Porsche." If this engine becomes "affordable" I'll see if it fits in the Neo914-6. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Why not the Boxster or 996 engines? A local member and friend is doing a Boxster conversion with new rear suspension which requires fabrication beyond my abilities and schedule. He virtually cut out the whole rear trunk and suspension to make it fit. I was very close to chosing the Audi 1.8 turbo but another local club member, Sonu had already installed one. I chose the Audi 2.7L V6 twin turbo which directly bolts to the Boxster transaxle  Is this a Ship of Theseus? |
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| neo914-6 |
Sep 2 2005, 02:16 AM
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neo life Group: Members Posts: 5,086 Joined: 16-January 03 From: Willow Glen (San Jose) Member No.: 159 |
This is what I chose to replace the classic Fuchs:
Techno 996 Wheels, they have lines similar to the unique 914 targa. In fact I will reform the targa trim to match a bit more…As much as I love the Boxster and Turbo twists, I think the "softness" of the wheel wasn't appropriate to this design. Tech: 18" SportTechno One-piece alloy wheel featuring powerful yet lightweight hollow-spoke design technology giving a weight reduction of 25 % over conventional wheels. Hollow aluminum alloy spokes are inseparably fused to the rim using a patented friction welding process. Employs new surface treatment technology for even better looking wheels. Attached image(s) 
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| neo914-6 |
Sep 2 2005, 02:17 AM
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neo life Group: Members Posts: 5,086 Joined: 16-January 03 From: Willow Glen (San Jose) Member No.: 159 |
C U R R E N T S P E C I F I C A T I O N S:
Audi 2.7L V6 twin turbo engine, intercoolers, and ECU Boxster 5 speed transaxle and B&M short shifter Turbo and 911 axles, ? CV's Braille Battery 993 pedal cluster with integral hydraulic cylinder Moved steering column to align with seat and dash 18"x8" 996 SportTechno wheels Pirelli Asymetrico tires 225/40 ZR 18 911 Front Struts / Konis / Vented Discs (5 lug) Boxster brake calipers 27mm Front Adjustable Smart Racing Anti-Roll Bar 23mm Front Torsion Bars Shine needle bearings 914 Rear Vented Discs (5 lug) Rebuilt and powdercoated trailing arms by Roaster fan (Jim) Rear MSDS ebrake (debut at the SEMA) pending Mueller needle bearing, PMB v-caliper, stock pads 18"x11" 996 SportTechno wheels Pirelli Asymetrico tires 295/30 ZR 18 Rear Bilstein Struts/ Shocks Adjustable rear spring perches 15mm Stock Anti-Roll Bar Rear 350lb/sqin Eibach Rear Coil Springs 911 19mm Master Cylinder Cockpit Adjustable Brake Bias Valve 986/996 dual radiators assemblies Audi instrument panel Power steering - planned Audi climate control |
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| neo914-6 |
Sep 2 2005, 02:33 AM
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neo life Group: Members Posts: 5,086 Joined: 16-January 03 From: Willow Glen (San Jose) Member No.: 159 |
B O D Y D E S I G N:
Neo914, John Kelly rear flares Andyrew front flares part one MarkD front flares, part two Molded rocker panels with intercooler inlets Molded bumpers Targa trim Top Tail lamps Articulating spoiler - Single arm wiper Logos |
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| scotty b |
Sep 3 2005, 06:21 AM
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rust free you say ? Group: Members Posts: 16,375 Joined: 7-January 05 From: richmond, Va. Member No.: 3,419 Region Association: None |
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smilie_pokal.gif) Me likes sketch! Now, how do I get rid of you and take over???
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| neo914-6 |
Sep 3 2005, 11:37 AM
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neo life Group: Members Posts: 5,086 Joined: 16-January 03 From: Willow Glen (San Jose) Member No.: 159 |
I revealed 90% of the details so go for it! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) |
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| Andyrew |
Sep 3 2005, 12:42 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,377 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California 
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Wowsers!!! Simply amazing.
I love the design, everything flows well. I must say I love the rocker pannels. Do you plan on building them yourself? That design is awesome and I'd love to be able to make some for myself. BTW. Tomorrow im dedicating the day to your flares. I should get the pass side done, and depending on how I like the drivers side, possibly that one as well. Andrew |
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| Brent |
Sep 3 2005, 01:10 PM
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Every month is Oktober Group: Members Posts: 1,360 Joined: 16-December 04 From: North San Jose Member No.: 3,291 Region Association: Northern California |
Felix,
It looks as if the front bumper is a cross between a 916 and early GT style chrome one. Is this your insperation? Looks great. -B |
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| neo914-6 |
Sep 3 2005, 02:35 PM
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neo life Group: Members Posts: 5,086 Joined: 16-January 03 From: Willow Glen (San Jose) Member No.: 159 |
Brent, the intent is: -allow for some form development that continues from the hood and fenders -eliminate the rubber top dictated by the 70's DOT or TUV regs. Did they really think it would soften the harm to a person's limbs? -retain some metal chrome finish so it is not just another plastic cap and give a sense of strength and retro-styling -give some importance to the radiator intakes "bezel" -retain the stock valance, I like the torsion bar "bumps" -continue with a radius on the bottom edge of the car with the rockers to give more curvature to the body, an air dam or side skirts would have eliminated this. IMHO Happy bday "Seve"! just dropped my daughter off at a bday... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/birthday.gif) |
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| TravisNeff |
Sep 3 2005, 02:41 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,082 Joined: 20-March 03 From: Mesa, AZ Member No.: 447 Region Association: Southwest Region
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Felix, the design in your drawing looks great, looks powerful and purposeful! Just plain bad ass!
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| neo914-6 |
Sep 3 2005, 02:51 PM
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neo life Group: Members Posts: 5,086 Joined: 16-January 03 From: Willow Glen (San Jose) Member No.: 159 |
Thanks Andrew I'm looking forward to them, Sept 24 is coming fast... The radius will be done by a sheet metal HVAC shop, the transitions to the flares will be a challenge. I will mock it up in urethane and probably take it to a metalshaper. I also need to position the intercoolers to see if they will get enough airflow. The rear features will be trick too, stay tuned... |
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| goose2 |
Sep 3 2005, 03:24 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 976 Joined: 30-March 05 From: Eugene, Oregon Member No.: 3,847 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
great stuff Felix...keep it coming please (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/beer.gif)
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| jonwatts |
Sep 3 2005, 04:45 PM
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no rules, just wrong Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,321 Joined: 13-January 03 From: San Jose, CA Member No.: 141  |
Kewl stuff.
Hey speaking of fenders, I still have one for you from McMark. Need it anytime soon? Jon |
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| campbellcj |
Sep 3 2005, 07:59 PM
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I can't Re Member Group: Members Posts: 4,589 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Agoura, CA Member No.: 21 Region Association: Southern California
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WOW, what a project! I will follow it closely as I've got the S4 with the 2.7T and can't wait to see/hear what that is like in a 914.
One technicality on your parts list though - you won't be able to use the "S" calipers with the 911T struts. Actually if it were me, I'd probably go to bigger brakes like 930 or Boxster monoblocks or something. If you chip the ECU the car will be a torque monster and stopping ability=good. Keep us posted as the thoughts flow! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/pray.gif) |
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| Brent |
Sep 3 2005, 10:46 PM
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Every month is Oktober Group: Members Posts: 1,360 Joined: 16-December 04 From: North San Jose Member No.: 3,291 Region Association: Northern California |
Felix, very sweet. The front bumper looks like it will be amazing! As well as the rest of the car. You are our Foose buddy...keep it going!
(ps. Waiting for the Avatar to change with Seve's pic in it. Will keep his pic there for this month. He said thanks for the Bday wishes. We just got back from the Jungle in Saratoga. He is always over my shoulder reading the forum with me.) -B |
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| neo914-6 |
Sep 4 2005, 10:31 AM
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neo life Group: Members Posts: 5,086 Joined: 16-January 03 From: Willow Glen (San Jose) Member No.: 159 |
QUOTE(campbellcj @ Sep 3 2005, 05:59 PM)  WOW, what a project! I will follow it closely as I've got the S4 with the 2.7T and can't wait to see/hear what that is like in a 914. One technicality on your parts list though - you won't be able to use the "S" calipers with the 911T struts. Actually if it were me, I'd probably go to bigger brakes like 930 or Boxster monoblocks or something. If you chip the ECU the car will be a torque monster and stopping ability=good. Keep us posted as the thoughts flow! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif) I believe they are currently 911, are the s-calipers spaced differently? Brake choices are still open but I have this nice set of rebuilt s-calipers... Stock ECU will do for now but when it gets to that purchase point I will consider stand-alone engine management. Thanks! |
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