The neo914-6 Concept, the details... Options

[neo914-6]

Updated schedule:
Nov/Dec 05 - refit rear flares, weld and flare fenders, remove wheel well lip, fill side marker holes, mount GT3 seat, remove roll cage, fix chassis cracks, install Engman kit by Original Customs (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smilie_pokal.gif)
Jan 05 - mount engine, trans, & cable shifter, install cooling lines @ TC Design, fab exhaust, fab door, fit single piece windows, design interior, HID headlights, shorten tail lights, retractible spoiler
Feb 06 - mount radiators, ducting, and plumbing
Mar 06 - reupholster panels @ ?
April 06 - mold bumpers and fabricate rockers
May 06 - final body prep, paint @ ?
June 06 - re-assembly, seals
July 06 - details, cosmetics
Aug 06 - marketing
Sept 06 - performance options
Oct 06 - buffer
Nov 06 - SEMA

I found out an old friend has a 2000 Audi A6 who gave me some great info on the 2.7tt engine. This means I have access to a running car for reference or (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ph34r.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif)

Given the scope of the project, I may postpone incorporating the single wiper and maybe the Audi dash and climate system. These can wait until after the engine is running and the body is painted.

Paint is going to cost alot more than expected and I really hate looking at alternatives for a key part of the aesthetics. It won't be a "show" car per se but it will be at SEMA, maybe other shows, and likely several magazines. I'm considering selling my V8 914 to fund it but the market for my Chalon and V8 is extremely limited. It outlasted all my "cool" cars and was my first 80's "neo914"... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif)

[Andyrew]

Is the color of the car a secret??

I would like to know what the new 914 color would be... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)

"pink is the new purple"....? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif)

Andrew

I wish I was skilled enough to tackle the paint for you.. But unfortunately... One term in auto body painting 1 probably aint gona cut it.. Even if I got an 'A'.. lol

[neo914-6]

QUOTE (Andyrew @ Dec 13 2005, 11:20 PM)

Is the color of the car a secret?? I would like to know what the new 914 color would be...  :D "pink is the new purple"....?  ;) Andrew I wish I was skilled enough to tackle the paint for you.. But unfortunately... One term in auto body painting 1 probably aint gona cut it.. Even if I got an 'A'.. lol

It will likely be a Porsche Seal Grey. I want it to highlight the surfaces. I hate to admit I like the new Infinity grey too...

I painted a few cars in my teens but costs of materials and shop rates are not what they used to be. You get what you pay for and now that I've invested so much in the car I "can't" cheap out on the paint... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/unsure.gif)

[Andyrew]

I hear you...

I was going to go with the factory single stage phoenix.. but I now think that a dual stage would be stronger and look nicer.

[neo914-6]

Mueller will transport the car from Marks Napa shop to Tony Coliccllio's TC Design in Milpitas this Wednesday. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/clap.gif)

It is far from being ready for paint but here's a view of what it will or should look like...

[Trekkor]

you really should have Brandon paint the car...


KT

[neo914-6]

QUOTE (trekkor @ Dec 26 2005, 09:20 PM)

you really should have Brandon paint the car... KT

I prefer a club member or someone referred by a club member. When the time comes I'll compare several shops for cost vs. technical experience vs. 914 experience only because it is a large sum of $ (largest single cost of this project)

Have you priced a "good" paint job recently?

[Andyrew]

Yup... best guy in town quoted me 5k to do everything 3 years ago...

He said he would shoot it for 800... and that was with hook ups...

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Main reason for me to take the painting class was to tell if I could paint my car myself sucessfully

[neo914-6]

Mike the Man Mueller delivered neo914-6 from Mark's Original Customs in Napa to Tony's TC Design in Milpitas for engine mount fabrication.

[neo914-6]

Mark did a fantastic job with the custom metal work. He welded (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/welder.gif) on new front fenders and formed (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smash.gif) them ala John Kelly on-car technique. He (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sawzall-smiley.gif) and butt welded John's "big A$$" rear flares, yes pun. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif) He filled in all the DZUS , side marker and antenna holes. He extended the seal channel for the headlight delete hood. He also installed the Engman stiff kit and made the GT3 Recaro seat mount work. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/clap.gif)

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After Mike unloaded my car we loaded Jon's Watts car onto the trailer. Tony just finished fabricating Jon's Subaru mount. Jon picked up the Audi engine and Boxster transaxle at my place and dropped it off at Tony's before he picked up his car on the trailer. It worked so well it even seems like we planned this. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif) Actually props go to Mike!

Thanks Jon! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/aktion035.gif)

[jonwatts]

Always willing to help a fellow club member with plans more insane than my own (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif)

Thanks to Mike and Felix and Tony and Joe for loading up my car for me, it made picking my car up very smooth. The only time I broke a sweat all day was rearranging crap in the garage.

The next time my car leaves the garage should be on its way to paint! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/boldblue.gif)

[neo914-6]

QUOTE (jonwatts @ Dec 28 2005, 10:21 PM)

The next time my car leaves the garage should be on its way to paint! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/boldblue.gif)

Did I hear "WCC06" in July??? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)

It will leave under it's own power...

[jonwatts]

No comment, this is your progress thread (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif)

[John Kelly]

Nice to see so much progress Felix! Kudos to Mark for the flare work. I bet he spent at least as much time as I did on the rears, just welding and finishing them up. Looks like the fronts turned out nice! I'd like to see more pictures when you get the car back.

John www.ghiaspecialties.com

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Went by a body shop where Tony , the owner of TAC had built old Mini's with MR2 drivetrains and a wide bodykit years before the new Mini came along. I found him after seeing his Mini featured in a car magazine and his shop happened to be a close to where I used to live. Unfortunately he only creates body parts for his own cars but hasn't the time to market them and doesn't do full paint. I showed him my project online and he "approved" of the Audi drivetrain owning a couple of TT's himself. Tony has a dino kit 914 and many other interesting cars. He refered me to his friend who is a bigger fan of Audis and owns a shop a few miles away. When I met Joao of Brasil Auto he was impressed that I chose the 2.7tt and began to show me "some" of his collection. Old Triumphs, Benzs, BMW 2002 tii, and a Renault Turbo 1! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/shocked[1].gif) It was in basket form but all there, what a cool car. He said this prompted his friend Tony to build the MR2 turbo Mini's. He does metal work and restoration but only on his cars. Both these guys impress me with their passion for cars. Joao used to race an Audi quattro so he is another source of Audi parts and expertise that I will need for neo914-6... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif)

[neo914-6]

Feb update,

914 is still @ TC Design, not in a big hurry to get it with my V8 914 still in the garage.

Got the internal wiring harness from one of Joao's wrecked A4's. The dash panel and climate control connect but I'll need to verify all of it with the wiring diagrams that I need to load on my laptop.

Got a climate module from the same car but turns out the housing is cracked. Dealer wants $600 for that plastic box. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif) Another from a 99 A4 "should" fit as part numbers match. Thanks Craigslist

Found out I need an Audi e-throttle pedal so I may not use the 993 pedal cluster or just cut off the integral throttle.

HID lights are coming along well, the signal LED is mounted above the main light. All I need to do is fabricate a bezel to finish the interior. A big surprise product will be available in a couple of months. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/cool.gif)

The single piece doors are progressing as well. I took out a couple inches in regulator rails for the shorter 914 door. I was concerned the forward triangle was going to be too tall based on matching the front to the rear channel angles. I was able to mount it far enough forward to have that nearly full side view. The Boxster/996 regulators apparently are strong enough not to utilize guide rails so mine should be stiffer. Anyone know where to get door motors for less than $250? I need a passenger side.

Rear spoiler is on Muellers list but I may have to finish it when his daughters coming home. I'm glad this is spurning new rear spoiler ideas...

[neo914-6]

March update,

914 is still @ TC Design due to an unbelieveable delivery delay of the hydraulic table (to precisely position the drivetrain) which still allowed me to work on sub-projects. <!-- emo&;) -->(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif)<!-- endemo -->

Jon and I will get our aluminum cooling pipes bent to fit in the chassis "ditch" by Tony once the car is up on the lift.

Awaiting another set of CD wiring diagrams as the originals didn't load on my laptop. <!-- emo&:screwy: -->(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/screwy.gif)<!-- endemo -->

Got a second climate module w/o cracks.<!-- emo&:screwy: -->(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/screwy.gif)<!-- endemo --> Can't do anything here until I get the car home and the dash off.

Still awaiting my Audi parts source for an e-throttle pedal. He sold me some down pipes that I will at least use the flanges and maybe pre-cats to the mufflers. Who needs O2? I do if I want my instrument cluster to work. I may bypass them so we'll see.

A little more progress on the single piece doors as I found a certain BMW door panel shape that will work with the GT3 seat. The first set I bought was crap, I couldn't believe the seller fiberglassed and painted the panels with what looked like house paint. They were cheap but the shipping was not. The second set is nice, very modern but won't use the door air bag. Also found a "cheap Boxster door motor I needed.

Rear spoiler is back on my list as Mueller decided to focus on his own projects including raising twins. What's up with that? <!-- emo&:confused: -->(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/confused24.gif)<!-- endemo --> <!-- emo&:lol: -->(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif)<!-- endemo -->

Bought a beautiful billet steering wheel extension from Bryan (datapace). He's on the road to a cool project. Now I'm going to have to incorporate some finished aluminum into the interior. <!-- emo&:idea: -->(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/idea.gif)<!-- endemo -->

Chris (Rockaria) may work on my SEMA signage to a format that can be metal etched by Patrick (ppickerell) for a plaque. I'm toying with the idea of using an old engine bar as a stand. <!-- emo&:rolleyes: -->(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/rolleyes.gif)<!-- endemo -->

I gave my 2.7tt basket case engine to Sonu who will rebuild it for 500hp! Another 2.7tt 914 conversion! <!-- emo&:trophy: -->(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smilie_pokal.gif)<!-- endemo --> Unfortunately a grand down but worth it as he will be a major asset to finishing my project.

Sonu suggested I use the Audi transmission which adapts to the Boxster cable shifter very easily (same family). Additionally the CV flanges match the 911 CV's and it has an internal speed sensor. With the Boxster I need to design a toner wheel to make it work. Audi tranny is less "sexy" but may be stronger and I could actually save $, what a concept. <!-- emo&:lol: -->(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif)<!-- endemo -->

I bought an Elise soft top on UK eBay. Not sure when I'll start this project but juggling is my MO. <!-- emo&:wacko: -->(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wacko.gif)<!-- endemo -->

Rolled metal rocker was a bust with my local metal shop. They didn't have a 40" roller so they formed it with steps. WTF <!-- emo&:confused: -->(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/confused24.gif)<!-- endemo --> Search for a local metal shaper is still afoot...

Found a set of BMW (not again!) grilles that will work well in my bumper design for cooling intake. I'm very pleased with the shape and touch of chrome. Can't wait to mold these <!-- emo&:D -->(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)<!-- endemo -->

[Andyrew]

Rolled metal rockers? Tell me about this...

Something I could make?

[neo914-6]

I found someone who can do some of my fiberglass work. Check out Mike's awesome V8 motorcycle. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/shocked[1].gif)