914 AnswerBot, Knowledge Agent for 914 technical info Options

[DennisV]

I've spent the past few months getting acquainted with practical applications for AI. As part of my learning, I wanted to see if I could build a useful knowledge agent for 914 information. Thus born 914 AnswerBot.

It has simple password protection just to knock down bots. If prompted, enter 914_world.

I guess I'd call it beta at this stage. I'm interested to hear if this is useful to the community. If so, I can expand the source document library and refine it. If not, no hard feelings. It was educational for me either way.

[SirAndy]

So far, so good (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[Osnabruck914]

Two out of three questions asked had spot on answers. This could be very valuable. Keep at it and thanks.

Osnabruck914

[JeffBowlsby]

I think more extensive references would be helpful.

“ The documents do not explicitly state the number of different Djet ignition harnesses made for the Porsche 914. However, there are multiple wiring harness part numbers listed for various models and years of the 914, including those related to the engine and ignition system. For example, wiring harness part numbers such as 914 612 018 13, 914 612 047 10, 914 612 317 12, and others are mentioned, but it is not specified which are specifically for the Djet ignition system or how many distinct Djet ignition harnesses exist.

Therefore, based on the provided documents, I don't know how many different Djet ignition harnesses were made for the Porsche 914.
Sources:
[1]
Workshop Manual - Group 1 Engine 914-4-OCR.pdf
[2]
914, 1970 - 1976-Parts Catalog.pdf”

[JeffBowlsby]

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[KELTY360]

Admirable effort, but I wonder if this takes us down the AI rabbit hole in favor of interaction among members to answer technical questions. It seems it would also inhibit new people to the world of 914s from asking for help and information from the membership base. 914World is such a treasure of information and fellowship that I would hate to see it become another sterile, digitized platform. I hope we can tread lightly in this direction.

[davep]

I think that it could be very useful for faster answers when the more knowledgeable members cannot reply soon enough. However the questions I asked yielded inaccurate results. That implies that the source database needs to be expanded with verified information. Perhaps I'll have to prepare a document.

[worn]

I've spent the past few months getting acquainted with practical applications for AI. As part of my learning, I wanted to see if I could build a useful knowledge agent for 914 information. Thus born 914 AnswerBot.

It has simple password protection just to knock down bots. If prompted, enter 914_world.

I guess I'd call it beta at this stage. I'm interested to hear if this is useful to the community. If so, I can expand the source document library and refine it. If not, no hard feelings. It was educational for me either way.

I think you have an uphill battle to fight in this context: the World has so many great normally intelligent sources willing to provide and flesh out answers. Member answers often lack complete bibliographies though, so sharpen up folks! That said, thanks for giving this a try.

[emerygt350]

I think a bot that could bring you straight to the posts with the most relevant answers would be awesome.

[rjames]

Admirable effort, but I wonder if this takes us down the AI rabbit hole in favor of interaction among members to answer technical questions. It seems it would also inhibit new people to the world of 914s from asking for help and information from the membership base. 914World is such a treasure of information and fellowship that I would hate to see it become another sterile, digitized platform. I hope we can tread lightly in this direction.

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[DennisV]

The wheel bolt pattern of the Porsche 914/4 is a 5-lug pattern.
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That is a BIG swing and miss, particularly given it derived that answer from 4 different sources. Maybe it is just Artificial sigh. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

It is worse than no resource if you can't trust the answers. Thus why I started with only authoritative source materials. I also set it up so that it should reply "I don't know" if the answer wasn't covered in the source material.

The issue isn't the source material, it's the intelligence or lack thereof. Models can be trained, but that is a more complicated implementation and you need a human in the loop to review the questions and answers. You also have to trust that the human doing the training is correct. I took the untrained RAG route.

I'm not an expert on any of this. Was just testing the boundaries of practical application. It was a learning experience.

[SirAndy]

The issue isn't the source material, it's the intelligence or lack thereof. Models can be trained, but that is a more complicated implementation and you need a human in the loop to review the questions and answers. You also have to trust that the human doing the training is correct. I took the untrained RAG route.

I'm not an expert on any of this. Was just testing the boundaries of practical application. It was a learning experience.

As someone who has spent years working on ML/AI models, both on the learning side as well as the implementation side, training data is the key. Not just the quality of the training data but also the amount.

And you are correct, there is no actual "intelligence" in AI which is why i still prefer calling them ML (Machine Learning) models.
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[73-914]

The issue isn't the source material, it's the intelligence or lack thereof. Models can be trained, but that is a more complicated implementation and you need a human in the loop to review the questions and answers. You also have to trust that the human doing the training is correct. I took the untrained RAG route.

I'm not an expert on any of this. Was just testing the boundaries of practical application. It was a learning experience.

As someone who has spent years working on ML/AI models, both on the learning side as well as the implementation side, training data is the key. Not just the quality of the training data but also the amount.

And you are correct, there is no actual "intelligence" in AI which is why i still prefer calling them ML (Machine Learning) models.
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[burton73]

Almost, not a 71 model year



Best Bob B

[davep]

While the literature suggests that the VIN range for the 914/6 starts with 0001, that is factually not correct. With all Porsche in 1970, and many following years, the first production VIN is 0011; the first 10 are reserved numbers. Not so with the 914/4 which do start with 00001. The few 911 with VIN's in the sub 0011 range are generally earlier cars that are renumbered after a thorough rebuild. Further, the first few cars in a model year can be anomalous in specification. The first few 914/6 had several prototype parts. The first few 1969 911's were renumbered prototypes. At least a few of the 1972 911 did not have the oil door, having been built very early on 1971 chassis.

[Superhawk996]

AI prone to getting high on its own supply. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smoke.gif)

[tomeric914]

C'mon, this was an easy one...