Pricing help. New old stock carpets. Options

[beltwerks]

I am looking to get a fair value on some new old stock front footwell factory carpet mats that i wish to list for sale on the forum. I have one set of driver and passenger Brown mats, and 2 different coloured Brown passenger mats.

I have searched the forum for similar sales but have had no luck. Any help would be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance.
Dave

[rgalla9146]

I am looking to get a fair value on some new old stock front footwell factory carpet mats that i wish to list for sale on the forum. I have one set of driver and passenger Brown mats, and 2 different coloured Brown passenger mats.

I have searched the forum for similar sales but have had no luck. Any help would be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance.
Dave

[rgalla9146]

They're all beautiful.
The first one and the last one are for a 911
The driver and passenger pieces are a treasure for the 914 ('73-'74 ?) guy with the matching interior ... and the coin.

[beltwerks]

Thank you for your advice. Good job i asked as i would look a dumb ass as they say, advertising the 911 stuff here. Many thanks. Dave

[StarBear]

Not so sure the two 914 front pieces are NOS. The hold down holes don’t have sewn vinyl grommets. These may be very nice AA replicas.

[JamesM]

Not so sure the two 914 front pieces are NOS. The hold down holes don’t have sewn vinyl grommets. These may be very nice AA replicas.

Those die cuts look just like a set I pulled out of an unmolested factory -6. The early stuff didn't have grommets.

Brown too, wish someone still made the brown basket weave to match, its what my 72 originally came with.

Cant help with the price, not something you see to often.

Post some pictures of the back side if you can.

[wonkipop]

Not so sure the two 914 front pieces are NOS. The hold down holes don’t have sewn vinyl grommets. These may be very nice AA replicas.

Those die cuts look just like a set I pulled out of an unmolested factory -6. The early stuff didn't have grommets.

Brown too, wish someone still made the brown basket weave to match, its what my 72 originally came with.

Cant help with the price, not something you see to often.

Post some pictures of the back side if you can.

@JamesM is right @Starbear .

early cars differ from our 74s.
no plastic trim around the brake and clutch pedal slots. just a neat cut.
as well as no plastic mold around the snap down grommets.

early six and four. pretty original cars both. this style of carpet would be long gone in most cars, replaced by aftermarket sets.




other give-aways. virtually unreproducable super thin edge piping/edge trim.
also has the unusual and not often seen passenger side foot pad.
darker and different brown than later browns from 73 on.

pretty damn rare. if someone was trying to assemble a brown interior early car.
which you don't see often. love my later brown interior. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

also note the plastic bag @StarBear - its got a back in the day porsche label on it.

i dunno what they are worth. priceless probably for someone restoring a brown interior six.

whatever the other two pieces are they are aftermarket. and maybe not for 914s? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

[StarBear]

I stand updated, by someone who knows!
So, early carpets, not 73-74, so really more unicorns. Check out Jeff Bowlsby's web site to match the color and pile type to date them more exactly.
Onward!!

[wonkipop]

I stand updated, by someone who knows!
So, early carpets, not 73-74, so really more unicorns. Check out Jeff Bowlsby's web site to match the color and pile type to date them more exactly.
Onward!!

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
only reason i know about those early carpets is from when i was looking into that hair loom brown carpet that our 74s have. was trying to see if it could be sourced still.
no luck on that front. did find the black version of it from a german manufacturer.
its come back into style in architectural applications - its completely natural, no synthetic fibres. the goat hairs woven in to the loom when mixed with the wool make the wool long wearing. it went out of fashion in the early to mid 70s because they used to use horse hair, but the supply dried up as horses became less of a fixture of life.

don't think that early brown carpet in the set shown above are hair loom. think they might be just wool. not 100% on this but i think the hairloom may have been a VW thing rather than a porsche or mercedes thing.

i just finished cleaning up a set of brown merc carpets for the W115 coupe we are recommissioning down here. used baby shampoo. they come up showroom mint.
unbelievable quality materials in those old mercs. i don't know what the vinyl was that merc had but whatever it is its durable beyond belief. 50 years old. and all perfect.
no cracks, splits. and its had harsh aus UV on it along the way. the merc has what is called a tobacco interior. really beautiful brown. i dig these 70s brown interiors.
so much nicer than the grim greys and blacks so ubiquitous in 21st century cars. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[beltwerks]

Thank you all for the useful information. The fabric is numbered 402 on the label. An image from Jeff's site shows this in the 71 colour chart. Now i need to get a price somehow.

[wonkipop]

@beltwerks

that part label says its for both a 70 and 71 going off PET.
passenger side piece. so basically for the early cars with the fixed seat on that side.

reasonably valuable piece for the right person who would need it.
you won't find that part growing on a tree any more.
most of the black carpet used back then can be sourced from stock these days to make a repro set. but the browns are real tricky to dig up any kind of matching stock for.

i have a feeling that in the case of the 73 and 74 cars its no longer made by any one for a reason. it faded. very quickly. and discoloured. even when new.
whatever the dye was that they achieved the coloring with - which was almost like natural brown sheep wool just wasn't up to it.

the brown in the set you have is a different story. but nevertheless i have never seen it in my searches for carpet stock with european manufacturers.