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Trekkor
post Oct 9 2005, 08:54 PM
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Went Saturday way up into the mountains to recover an old FV racecar with two good engines and lot of extras including a new set of Hoosiers on new rims.

It belongs to a friend of mine who used to race it from the mid 80's to mid 90's.

it's back in Napa and we want to tear it down, rebuild it and take it through SCCA race school next year.

He'll want to sell it after that, buy a 914 and time trial/ax with us kooks (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wacko.gif)

FYI: even though a vee makes just 60hp and weighs 1000#'s with the driver, they can put up sub 2:00 lap times at both Sears and Thunderhill.

True momemtum cars.

1200cc single carb, mid-engine, open wheel.
They extract 50% more hp from the stock 40hp motors with careful headwork and flywheel lightening.

And they rev up to 7k rpm's (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif)

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post Oct 9 2005, 09:00 PM
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After corner working a few National races all I can say is watching the open wheel cars is cool. Nothing like watching them 3 wide going into turn 2 at Gingerman and wondering how the heck they did it without hitting each other. Have fun (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/driving.gif)
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Jake Raby
post Oct 9 2005, 09:02 PM
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And I have the blueprint you need to make 65 ponies from the same engine.... and rev to 7500+

FV was the first race engine I ever built..
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post Oct 9 2005, 09:17 PM
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Jake, I knew 100% you would have experience in this area.

My friend said he always rebuilt the motor after every 3-4 races.
Got to where he would do it in about 12 hours and $300 worth of parts.

He always had a back-up motor that could be swapped out in 3 hours.

The motors have a high air scoop for cooling with no fan or generator to rob vital power.

He said they would peg the oil temp guage at 300° all the time (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif)

I sat in the car ( making engine noises ) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) today.

Wow what a tight fit!
You actually become the car.

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post Oct 9 2005, 09:21 PM
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That looks like an old Zink if my memory serves me. I had one back around 1980. the frame was made from 1" box tube and was very flexible. The car handled great no matter what I tried to do to the suspension (the frame was so flexible you couldn't tune the suspension). Hey jake I thought you didn't care for fvees! I think they are the greatest bang for the buck going. Who's car was it? I raced SF region fvee during the 80's...just curious.


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post Oct 9 2005, 09:28 PM
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Yes, a Zink!

Driven by Bob Babbe, built by Ted Robinson.

Here's all three of us after we cleared the leaves and pulled the tarp off.

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post Oct 9 2005, 09:42 PM
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It's been a long time. those names and faces are not in my memory banks. oh well. Be carefull with that car. I sold mine to buy a Lynx B and I heard the guy that bought it rolled it up into a pretzel! You're right! There's nothing like the feel of sitting/lying in a formula car. Wait till you drive it. That's why I bought my teener. I wanted something with the potential to handle like my vee. Good luck!

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post Oct 9 2005, 09:57 PM
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I took Bob for a ride in my 914 and kinda freaked him out.
I let him drive it and now he wants one. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/rolleyes.gif)

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post Oct 9 2005, 10:07 PM
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that's cool trekkor! throw your old BP motor in it and go AXing!!!
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post Oct 9 2005, 10:10 PM
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I drove a autodynamics FV in the late 60s and early 70s. we had 53 entries at Ontario. raced many times at Riverside. shifted three times at riverside per lap but you never let up on the gas or the pack would be long gone. Great memories

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post Oct 9 2005, 10:19 PM
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Back in the early 80's an engineer that I used to work with at Jet Propulsion Lab in the Pasadena area had a Formula Vee too, thought it too was a Lynx, went up to Willowspring to watch him practice. I got a chance to sit in it, you're not kidding about the tight fit in those things, I kinda felt a little clostaphobic in it, I'm not too sure I could ever get over that. I was considering buying one at the time, sure looked like alot of fun. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif)
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post Oct 9 2005, 11:12 PM
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It's a Zink C4


Can you show more pictures of the car with the body off...............it looks very familiar. It appears to already has the zero roll conversion the the rear?
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post Oct 10 2005, 12:10 AM
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My attorney wants to pick up one of those some day. She says they look like the absolute most fun you can have (for cheap) on a race track!! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif)

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post Oct 10 2005, 06:32 AM
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QUOTE (itsa914 @ Oct 9 2005, 10:00 PM)
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After corner working a few National races all I can say is watching the open wheel cars is cool. Nothing like watching them 3 wide going into turn 2 at Gingerman and wondering how the heck they did it without hitting each other. Have fun (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/driving.gif)

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif)

3 wide in turn 2 is NUTS at Gingerman!!!

Whtever you do, don't bump wheels with anyone else... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/unsure.gif)

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post Oct 10 2005, 06:36 AM
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I think RacerChris posted about how those things have the most wrecks per race ratio in the SCCA. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sad.gif)

Coffin on four wheels thier un-offical name.

Buy a HANS device.

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post Oct 10 2005, 08:05 AM
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Its not that I don't care for them.. They areVERY time consuming to work with, especially the heads....
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post Oct 10 2005, 09:29 AM
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QUOTE (URY914 @ Oct 10 2005, 06:36 AM)
I think RacerChris posted about how those things have the most wrecks per race ratio in the SCCA. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sad.gif)

Coffin on four wheels thier un-offical name.

Buy a HANS device.

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VERY little protection, mixed with minimal use of the brakes... bad voojoo
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post Oct 10 2005, 09:51 AM
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QUOTE (NoEcm @ Oct 9 2005, 10:12 PM)
It's a Zink C4


Can you show more pictures of the car with the body off...............it looks very familiar. It appears to already has the zero roll conversion the the rear?

It does have the zero roll mod...Very good!

I'll post some more pics later ( after I take them ) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/lol2.gif)

BTW: I have no intentions of racing this car. Just school, if they won't let me drive my 914.

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post Oct 10 2005, 09:55 AM
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QUOTE (trekkor @ Oct 10 2005, 07:51 AM)
QUOTE (NoEcm @ Oct 9 2005, 10:12 PM)
It's a Zink C4


Can you show more pictures of the car with the body off...............it looks very familiar. It appears to already has the zero roll conversion the the rear?

It does have the zero roll mod...Very good!

I'll post some more pics later ( after I take them ) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/lol2.gif)

BTW: I have no intentions of racing this car. Just school, if they won't let me drive my 914.

KT

Sometimes I feel anyone that races an open wheel car is (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/screwy.gif) but then again this is coming from a owner of money pit 914. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif)

Becareful trekkor, all it takes is one time on the track and the next thing you know you will have to pickup another job to help support your NEW other hobby (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif)
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post Oct 10 2005, 10:00 AM
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Now you tell me!!! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/dry.gif)

I picked up this car the day after the track day at Infineon. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/lol2.gif)

My focus has always been safety first. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/clap.gif)

Thanks!


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