Subaru transmission installation, Now it's a reality!!! Options

[jimkelly]

here is a rough drawing of a custom output stub with flange

[nsyr]

914 output flange

[Porcharu]

QUOTE (jimkelly @ Jan 23 2006, 06:19 AM)

As I understand it the stubs are removeable. How much room the there between the 914 axle flange and the tranny? Maybe all we need is a custom output stub that has a flange? How far does the output stub protrude from the sub tranny? Jim

My trans isn't missing the stubs - the whole thing is one piece. Stub-CV-Axle all of this is one piece. I have seen the stubs for sale with an aftermaret diff do I don't think it really matters how the solution is made it should still fit all of the transmissions.

[grossgary]

i've spoken to jim some about this conversion. i know NOTHING about porsche, i know subaru's only so none of this may be useful. he mentioned some axle issues on the conversion. the best starting point might be to call MWE Axles in Colorado:

(303) 522-8070

they are subaru axle specialists and have done custom axles for off roading and subaru to subaru conversions that require some machining and swapping of DOJ's and such. i can't imagine they wouldn't want to help you out.
they are a great company and do excellent axle work, highly regarded among the subaru community.

not sure about subaru transmission without stub axles, never seen one like that. every subaru transmission i've seen has splined output shafts for the front axles. impreza, legacy, all older generation and even the wrx trans output shafts are stubs that are held in place by a clip. they pull out and pop back in. they have a clip at the base that stays with the stub when you yank it from the trans (not sure why you'd ever want to do that though!). if you yank on the cv axle hard enough without knocking the pin retaining the axle to the trans stub, the stub will pull out of the transmission.

(shameless plug) i have two impreza's (97 and 98) that i'll be selling whole or parting out. i bought them wrecked to use for body parts (fixing hail damage on mine), don't need the drive train if anyone is interested in the entire car - engine, trans wiring, engine mounts, trans mount, shifter, etc for a conversion. one may be spoken for in entirety and the other i may fix. email if interested.

good luck and have fun,
gary

[jimkelly]

Gary,

Thanks for your comments.

Your wealth of subaru knowledge is greatly appreicated.

Jim

[nsyr]

another idea: drill out a hole in the this flange and hammer in and weld the suby output stub on it. do you think it could handle the stress? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/unsure.gif)

[nsyr]

forgot pic

[Porcharu]

A little bit off topic but still relevant as Jim asked about shortened oil pans.
sump

I also know some people in Germany that could get the Bug5speed aluminum
pan shipped. Heck I might be in Germany in a little while.bug 5 pan

[Porcharu]

I think I know what was going on with my lack of stubs in my trans. The flunky that removed the axles just yanked them out with the stubs still attached and the axles I got were so rusty that I did'nt notice the stubs were a separtate part.

[jimkelly]

Cool - we all have output stubs (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/aktion035.gif)

nysr - nice to see a pic of an actual output stub removed (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif)

With output stub removed - how much space is there between sub tranny and end of 914 axle/cv ?? Sounds like you think there is enough room for a solution here.

Please check both sides are equal (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/cool.gif)

Jim

[jimkelly]

QUOTE (srbliss @ Jan 23 2006, 01:23 PM)

A little bit off topic but still relevant as Jim asked about shortened oil pans. sump I also know some people in Germany that could get the Bug5speed aluminum pan shipped. Heck I might be in Germany in a little while.bug 5 pan

Shortened pans - looks like it is requred to be done - so either we do it ourselves, have it done locally - or buy from sharpbuilt or from other aussy dudes? How much does sharpbuilt want for their shortened oil pan and sump pump? It is nice because it holds full amount of oil!! Jim

I'll email them.

[d914]

outback with shorten pick up and an fitting for turbo $250 ish

[TonyAKAVW]

The outback pan is nice, and they say that they can do knock-outs to expand the capacity. I'm doing my own expansion and taking it to a shop to have it welded. I'll post pictures in my progress thread once I get some more done on it.

-Tony

[Porcharu]

QUOTE (jimkelly @ Jan 23 2006, 02:08 PM)

QUOTE (srbliss @ Jan 23 2006, 01:23 PM) A little bit off topic but still relevant as Jim asked about shortened oil pans. sump I also know some people in Germany that could get the Bug5speed aluminum pan shipped.  Heck I might be in Germany in a little while.bug 5 pan Shortened pans - looks like it is requred to be done - so either we do it ourselves, have it done locally - or buy from sharpbuilt or from other aussy dudes? How much does sharpbuilt want for their shortened oil pan and sump pump? It is nice because it holds full amount of oil!! Jim I'll email them.

I send them an email asking if he's willing to sell just the parts he adds to the oil pan. I wouldn't mind doing the work (cutting and welding) for a modest fee if he's willing to sell the parts. If not I might work up sometype of a kit to do it.

[nsyr]

You don't need parts. all you need is sheet metal for the bottom, about 14-16 gauge. cut off the part of the pan you don't want and weld on the sheet metal. as far as the pickup: cut off a section in the middle and braze the two halfs together. It's pretty easy.

[d914]

for you o god of Fabrication, some of us are better at bolting togeather

[MartyYeoman]

Why not "dry sump" it? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/confused24.gif)

[Mueller]

QUOTE (Marty Yeoman @ Jan 23 2006, 05:12 PM)

Why not "dry sump" it? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/confused24.gif)

I "think" the idea is to do a Subaru conversion "on the cheap" (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif)

prices are continuing to go up on these projects (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wacko.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/headbang.gif)

[jimkelly]

Reply from Sharpbuilt ... whose oil pan is widen to hold full quantity of oil!!!

Hi Jim
> What is the cost for your SUPA SUMP oil pan and sump pump?
Supa Sumps are $320 US exchange and $30 to shorten the oil pickup (total $350)
> Do you have a discount for multiple orders?
On 3- 5% on 5-10%
> Is the same pan used on ej22 and ej25 normally aspirated engines?
Yes the same
Regards Mike Sharp
http://www.sharpbuilt.com.au

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The option is http://www.outbackmotors.com/oil_pan.htm

Who charge $250 and they even advertise they sell the kit if you want to cut and weld yourself. quote "Kit's for this area available too if you want to do the work of chopping and welding yourself."

Jim

[Porcharu]

QUOTE (jimkelly @ Jan 23 2006, 07:15 PM)

Reply from Sharpbuilt ... whose oil pan is widen to hold full quantity of oil!!! Hi Jim > What is the cost for your SUPA SUMP oil pan and sump pump? Supa Sumps are $320 US exchange and $30 to shorten the oil pickup (total $350) > Do you have a discount for multiple orders? On 3- 5% on 5-10% > Is the same pan used on ej22 and ej25 normally aspirated engines? Yes the same Regards Mike Sharp http://www.sharpbuilt.com.au -- The option is http://www.outbackmotors.com/oil_pan.htm Who charge $250 and they even advertise they sell the kit if you want to cut and weld yourself. quote "Kit's for this area available too if you want to do the work of chopping and welding yourself." Jim

Hi Steve

Yes I can supply
$85 US each
Shipping gets a lot cheaper the more in the box

Regards Mike Sharp