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> Subaru transmission installation, Now it's a reality!!!
Porcharu
post Feb 12 2006, 07:03 PM
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Here is the 2 shafts that will be locked together with the sleeve. In AWD mode the larger shaft drives the center differential and the smaller shaft gets power from the center diff.


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post Feb 12 2006, 07:09 PM
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Here is the rear cover. I forgot take picture of the sleeve installed.


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post Feb 12 2006, 07:11 PM
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Parts installed in the car. Nice ad.


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post Feb 12 2006, 07:12 PM
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Another view


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post Feb 12 2006, 07:13 PM
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Muffler shield clearence, or lack of clearence.


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post Feb 12 2006, 07:14 PM
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That engine/tranny combo with the saker plate on back looks awesome!!

You able to get it centered with one axle assy in and the drivers side off the car?

That oil pan really hangs down low!

Great shots of the shafts and the sleeve.

Tripod is a fantastic idea (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/aktion035.gif)

Looks like 914 axles/cvs could work with the right output stub/adaptor but I suppose it is better to design any custom parts for a stronger axle/cv combo?

Thanks,

Jim
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post Feb 12 2006, 07:24 PM
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looks good... keep blazing that trail!!
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post Feb 12 2006, 07:46 PM
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QUOTE (jimkelly @ Feb 12 2006, 05:14 PM)
That engine/tranny combo with the saker plate on back looks awesome!!

You able to get it centered with one axle assy in and the drivers side off the car?

That oil pan really hangs down low!

Great shots of the shafts and the sleeve.

Tripod is a fantastic idea (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/aktion035.gif)

Looks like 914 axles/cvs could work with the right output stub/adaptor but I suppose it is better to design any custom parts for a stronger axle/cv combo?

Thanks,

Jim

Thanks for the kind words.
Yes the engine is centered up within 1/16" I used various references on the car to center it up.
Yes, the oil pan is low. I might be able to get the engine up higher if I move the engine forward. If I do that the axles won't be running nice and straight and I don't want to do that. It eats power and wears the CV, I still need to position the wheel in the loaded position to get the engine/trans in the exact correct position. It's close right now.
Like Andrew has said the 914 axle is not going to work - it's fully compressed (or close to it) in the picture and it should be almost fully extended with the wheels at full droop.
Andrew can you tell me how the long the bus axle is? I know you said it's 1.5" shorter but how long is it. I really want one in my hand before I give the go-ahead on making some expensive flanges.
I won't get much done over the next few days while I purchase a tubing bender and clean up the mess that is my garage. Oh yeah I have to go to work and earn a paycheck. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/headbang.gif) and help take care of my new son (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/boldblue.gif) and waste time here. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/beer3.gif)
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post Feb 13 2006, 05:51 AM
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Porsharu, pardon my ignorance but were is the shift rod that comes out of the trans? Is'nt the factory shift rod (that i dont see coming out of the saker end plate) retained? Great work by the way, you're an inspiration to us all. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smilie_pokal.gif)
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post Feb 13 2006, 06:34 AM
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Seems like Steve left it off for ease of mock up.

Thus you'll also notice that he has not installed all the bolts that hold the plate in place.

I guess if the rod needs any additional clearance it will have to be cut out of the truck floor?

Jim
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post Feb 13 2006, 12:18 PM
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QUOTE (atsealevel914 @ Feb 13 2006, 03:51 AM)
Porsharu, pardon my ignorance but were is the shift rod that comes out of the trans? Is'nt the factory shift rod (that i dont see coming out of the saker end plate) retained? Great work by the way, you're an inspiration to us all. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smilie_pokal.gif)

It's not there right now. I left it out during the mockup since I need to take it back apart to install a new gasket.
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post Feb 13 2006, 12:19 PM
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QUOTE (jimkelly @ Feb 13 2006, 04:34 AM)
I guess if the rod needs any additional clearance it will have to be cut out of the truck floor?

Jim

There is plenty of room for the shifter - cable or rod.
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post Feb 13 2006, 02:05 PM
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Not to hijack the thread,but what kind of camera are you using those close ups look great....... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smilie_pokal.gif)



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post Feb 13 2006, 02:43 PM
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QUOTE (BIGKAT_83 @ Feb 13 2006, 12:05 PM)
Not to hijack the thread,but what kind of camera are you using those close ups look great....... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smilie_pokal.gif)



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Olympus C-5050 - tweaked with photoshop elements "autofix"
Those are taken just using the normal mode then resized - the macro mode lets you get within inches.
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post Feb 13 2006, 03:43 PM
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Hi All,

I've been absorbed in work for a couple of months, so I've got a lot to catch up on. That Saker sleeve & plate looks like a nice way to go. A ham-fisted DIYer could hadle that job, no ?

I'm still not clear on the driveshaft situation. If the VW bus driveshaft approach works, then my fuzzy take on the situation is :

1) outer ends slip into stock 914 hubs.
2) inner ends have stock 914 CVs, boots, etc.
3) a custom adapter is fabricated that slips over a splined output shaft from Suby trans, and also accepts the standard 914 CV and bolts.

Is this what you guys have in mind ?

Congrats on the progress, BTW...
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post Feb 13 2006, 05:40 PM
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QUOTE (Porcharu @ Feb 12 2006, 08:46 PM)

Andrew can you tell me how the long the bus axle is? I know you said it's 1.5" shorter but how long is it. I really want one in my hand before I give the go-ahead on making some expensive flanges.

The bus axles are 18.75" and 914 I believe are 20.25"

I don't have any bus axles so I can't really give you much more than that.
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post Feb 13 2006, 06:28 PM
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Maybe good to contact the seller at ebay?

Item number: 8016031818 EMPI 90-6903 Type 2, M/T, 68-79

or

http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?Pr...C13%2D90%2D6903
C13-90-6901 - COMPLETE- NEW - AXLE ASSEMBLY - BUS 68-79 - LEFT AUTOMATIC TRANS ONLY (OVERALL LENGTH 18 INCHES) - SOLD EACH (SHIPPING CHARGES APPLY)


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post Feb 13 2006, 07:04 PM
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QUOTE (jsteele22 @ Feb 13 2006, 01:43 PM)
Hi All,

I've been absorbed in work for a couple of months, so I've got a lot to catch up on. That Saker sleeve & plate looks like a nice way to go. A ham-fisted DIYer could hadle that job, no ?

I'm still not clear on the driveshaft situation. If the VW bus driveshaft approach works, then my fuzzy take on the situation is :

1) outer ends slip into stock 914 hubs.
2) inner ends have stock 914 CVs, boots, etc.
3) a custom adapter is fabricated that slips over a splined output shaft from Suby trans, and also accepts the standard 914 CV and bolts.

Is this what you guys have in mind ?

Congrats on the progress, BTW...

The sleeve deal is a very simple thing to do. You just need a pipe wrench to hold the shaft while you remove the big nut (you throw away the part that the pipe wrench grabs)

1) outer ends slip into stock 914 hubs.
Yes or use 944 parts to convert to 5 lug, the drive axle stays the same.

2) inner ends have stock 914 CVs, boots, etc.
Nope stock Bus or 944 CVs.

3) a custom adapter is fabricated that slips over a splined output shaft from Suby trans, and also accepts the standard 914 CV and bolts.
Yes - except again 944 or Bus CV's.
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post Feb 13 2006, 11:25 PM
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does anyone know how the sub. automatic Trans. would work? and how strong is it with the higher HP. a old man wants to know

Bernie
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QUOTE (bernbomb914 @ Feb 13 2006, 09:25 PM)
does anyone know how the sub. automatic Trans. would work? and how strong is it with the higher HP. a old man wants to know

Bernie

Look back in this thread - autos were lightly discussed. They seem to have lots of electronics to control them. I don't see why they wouldn't work. They might even work with the mounts I am developing. I have heard that they work pretty good with modest power (less than 200HP)
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