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| Porcharu |
 Jan 23 2008, 06:04 PM
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Senior Member  Group: Members Posts: 1,314 Joined: 27-January 05 From: Campbell, CA Member No.: 3,518 Region Association: Northern California  |
I just looked up the price of the steel used for the flanges after having a case of sticker shock from buying a few pieces of tubing at the local steel place. It looks like about $110 of 4340 (that stuff is about $220 a foot in 4.5" diameter!) is used in every pair of flanges - maybe a little bit more.
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| jimkelly |
Jan 30 2008, 08:43 PM
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Delaware USA Group: Members Posts: 4,969 Joined: 5-August 04 From: Delaware, USA Member No.: 2,460 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
steve
what did you decide on - to use converted awd trans or fwd trans? jim |
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| Porcharu |
Jan 30 2008, 09:26 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,314 Joined: 27-January 05 From: Campbell, CA Member No.: 3,518 Region Association: Northern California |
Both! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) QUOTE(jimkelly @ Jan 30 2008, 06:43 PM)  steve what did you decide on - to use converted awd trans or fwd trans? jim |
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| Chevota79 |
Feb 3 2008, 02:56 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 83 Joined: 11-September 07 From: Rocklin, CA Member No.: 8,113 Region Association: None |
Porcharu i was wondering if you have a picture of the shifter on the subaru transmission not the shifter in the car but the location at which the transmission linkage is shifted I am building a cable shifter for this setup for school and any pictures would be greatly appreciated. Also if you could tell me how the linkage needs to move to get into each gear.
Thanks Josh |
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| Porcharu |
Feb 3 2008, 04:14 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,314 Joined: 27-January 05 From: Campbell, CA Member No.: 3,518 Region Association: Northern California |
Take a look at the very first picture in this thread. The shift linkage is on the top rear of the transmission. The shaft needs to move in and out and rotate to select gears. I an not sure of what movement selects what gear. I have not got that part of the project - yet.
Steve QUOTE(Chevota79 @ Feb 3 2008, 12:56 PM) Porcharu i was wondering if you have a picture of the shifter on the subaru transmission not the shifter in the car but the location at which the transmission linkage is shifted I am building a cable shifter for this setup for school and any pictures would be greatly appreciated. Also if you could tell me how the linkage needs to move to get into each gear. Thanks Josh |
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| Porcharu |
Feb 6 2008, 06:18 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,314 Joined: 27-January 05 From: Campbell, CA Member No.: 3,518 Region Association: Northern California |
How about an oil pan? I can get these pan sump kits at the following prices. They are made in Australia so the shipping is high. I am trying to buy the design to make it here.
5 pans @ $85 US each ---$425 Shipping 1st class air $195 Seamail (about 8-10 weeks) $115 Total ---- 5 pans shipped seamail US $540 I am waiting on a new quote for the shipping - these were from last year and a quote for 10 kits. These prices are delivered to my house, add shipping to you or send your clean oil pan to me and I can cut and weld it for you at a fair price. I don't know the price as I have not done it yet. Attached image(s)    
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| Zaney |
Feb 7 2008, 12:31 AM
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Deuchland en der Haus Group: Members Posts: 461 Joined: 1-March 04 From: Engine 11 Redmond, WA Member No.: 1,738 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
QUOTE(Porcharu @ Feb 6 2008, 04:18 PM) How about an oil pan? I can get these pan sump kits at the following prices. They are made in Australia so the shipping is high. I am trying to buy the design to make it here. 5 pans @ $85 US each ---$425 Shipping 1st class air $195 Seamail (about 8-10 weeks) $115 Total ---- 5 pans shipped seamail US $540 I am waiting on a new quote for the shipping - these were from last year and a quote for 10 kits. These prices are delivered to my house, add shipping to you or send your clean oil pan to me and I can cut and weld it for you at a fair price. I don't know the price as I have not done it yet. Is this a mid engine specific oil pan or just a short sump model? |
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| Porcharu |
Feb 7 2008, 12:43 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,314 Joined: 27-January 05 From: Campbell, CA Member No.: 3,518 Region Association: Northern California |
Short sump model. Mid engine doesn't really matter.
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| Porcharu |
Feb 15 2008, 02:57 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,314 Joined: 27-January 05 From: Campbell, CA Member No.: 3,518 Region Association: Northern California |
Update on the flange order! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif)
"Steve, all turning's now done so the milling/splining/treating/coating remains. I'm told 7-10 days. I'd think more likely 2 weeks but I keep pushing 'em" |
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| Porcharu |
Feb 15 2008, 02:59 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,314 Joined: 27-January 05 From: Campbell, CA Member No.: 3,518 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(Porcharu @ Feb 6 2008, 04:18 PM) How about an oil pan? I can get these pan sump kits at the following prices. They are made in Australia so the shipping is high. I am trying to buy the design to make it here. 5 pans @ $85 US each ---$425 Shipping 1st class air $195 Seamail (about 8-10 weeks) $115 Total ---- 5 pans shipped seamail US $540 I am waiting on a new quote for the shipping - these were from last year and a quote for 10 kits. These prices are delivered to my house, add shipping to you or send your clean oil pan to me and I can cut and weld it for you at a fair price. I don't know the price as I have not done it yet. I just ordered one pan kit to evaluate. $170 with air shipping via paypal. I should have it in a few weeks. Steve |
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| racerx9146 |
Feb 25 2008, 03:30 PM
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good design never goes out of date.. Group: Members Posts: 174 Joined: 1-January 04 From: Sacramento, CA Member No.: 1,483 Region Association: Northern California |
Any updates on the flanges?
All does anyone know a good source of Shifter control cables. I find the usual boat related stuff on Google but I thought somebody may know a more automotive related supplier? thanks John Daron |
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| jimkelly |
Feb 25 2008, 04:42 PM
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Delaware USA Group: Members Posts: 4,969 Joined: 5-August 04 From: Delaware, USA Member No.: 2,460 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
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| Porcharu |
Feb 25 2008, 05:56 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,314 Joined: 27-January 05 From: Campbell, CA Member No.: 3,518 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(racerx9146 @ Feb 25 2008, 01:30 PM) Any updates on the flanges? All does anyone know a good source of Shifter control cables. I find the usual boat related stuff on Google but I thought somebody may know a more automotive related supplier? thanks John Daron See post 489. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Look at California push-pull for cables. Steve |
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| Porcharu |
Feb 25 2008, 08:09 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,314 Joined: 27-January 05 From: Campbell, CA Member No.: 3,518 Region Association: Northern California |
Something new. Dust covers for the magic flanges - made by member 'spunone'. He will sell these for $20 a pair - PM him for payment info. The parts will be shipped to me and I will ship them with your flanges. Check out his normal product - gauge ring covers - they are amazing. The gold part is the stock Subaru part removed from a CV flange. This part is not available separately from an axle assembly. If you don't have a pair of axles this is the only way to get dust covers for the magic flanges.
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| Porcharu |
Feb 25 2008, 08:10 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,314 Joined: 27-January 05 From: Campbell, CA Member No.: 3,518 Region Association: Northern California |
Two more pics. PM spunone if you want these. $20 a pair
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| charliew |
Feb 28 2008, 04:01 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,363 Joined: 31-July 07 From: Crawford, TX. Member No.: 7,958 |
QUOTE(Porcharu @ Feb 15 2008, 02:59 PM) QUOTE(Porcharu @ Feb 6 2008, 04:18 PM) How about an oil pan? I can get these pan sump kits at the following prices. They are made in Australia so the shipping is high. I am trying to buy the design to make it here. 5 pans @ $85 US each ---$425 Shipping 1st class air $195 Seamail (about 8-10 weeks) $115 Total ---- 5 pans shipped seamail US $540 I am waiting on a new quote for the shipping - these were from last year and a quote for 10 kits. These prices are delivered to my house, add shipping to you or send your clean oil pan to me and I can cut and weld it for you at a fair price. I don't know the price as I have not done it yet. I just ordered one pan kit to evaluate. $170 with air shipping via paypal. I should have it in a few weeks. Steve Steve I have built two big pans for my and my son's subie motors. My research has shown that the 04 usdm sti runs the oil higher in the pan to have more volume than the 02 wrx. The sti just uses a shorter dip stick. I bought a pan kit from kennedy and made a short pan for my dune buggy motor. It's up to the fabber to set the depth. I chose 4.625 on the dune buggy pan. You can un-braze or siver solder the pick up cup and shorten the pickup tube to the desired depth and re braze it on. I chose this route after cutting a pickup and rewelding the tube. I didn't like the rough edges inside the tube where it was reconnected. Also the dip stick tube is brazed on the pan and when you cut the pan and start welding the added pieces on the mild steel weld doesn't like the brass around the dip stick tube so keep that in mind. You can stop welding and just braze or silver solder the area around the tube. I want as deep of a pan as I can get on the 914 so I am going to worry with motor position till I decide how much axle angle I want to live with. The sti pan with a "t" looking bottom to clear equal length headers on the sti car came out to almost 8 qt.s with about .186 added to the depth to get more pan to oil pickup clearance. We used a reinforced stock sti pickup. On the short wrx pan for the dune buggy (4.625 depth) with the kennedy pan kit, I have 7 qt.s volume with a wrx dip stick. The pan you have pictures of looks to be about 4.5 inches deep. I would be more with a sti dip stick. I added three swinging gates from some speedway sbc claimer kits to controll slosh on both pans. I would leave about .500 clearance for the pickup to pan clearance if your going to be running high rpms and a 10 or 12mm pump. I may try to just have mounts going to each side and not cross under the motor to give more room for a pan. I may not need to shift the motor position so much. I know the shifter tube is also in the area. I'm still just planning. Charliew |
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| silver arrow |
Feb 28 2008, 04:33 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 8 Joined: 28-February 08 From: St. Marys, GA Member No.: 8,760 Region Association: None |
When this is finished, could you summorize parts used and where bought? It is very hard to follow over 25 pages with so many good ideas and different solutions popping up. Or maybe we could start a Suby conversion FAQ thread?
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| Zaney |
Mar 19 2008, 02:25 PM
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Deuchland en der Haus Group: Members Posts: 461 Joined: 1-March 04 From: Engine 11 Redmond, WA Member No.: 1,738 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Monthly bump (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Any progress on the tranny mount? I finally picked up a used/abused 02' WRX 5 speed that is going to get some love before mated with a 2.5 turbo. Andrewtech out of MD sells a Legacy GT 1-3 with OEM WRX 4&5. Supposed to be a good mild upgrade for good $. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) |
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| jimkelly |
Mar 19 2008, 02:56 PM
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Delaware USA Group: Members Posts: 4,969 Joined: 5-August 04 From: Delaware, USA Member No.: 2,460 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
i believe steve is gonna kit all the custom parts and sell them himself - i do not know what off the shelf parts he is gonna include in the kit nor probably does he at this point. the key parts are the custom stubs, shift linkage, engine and trans mounts, custom oil pan, custom exhaust, as i currently see it. as sub engine using a sub trans - this is gonna be excellent.
QUOTE(Zaney @ Mar 19 2008, 12:25 PM) Monthly bump (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Any progress on the tranny mount? I finally picked up a used/abused 02' WRX 5 speed that is going to get some love before mated with a 2.5 turbo. Andrewtech out of MD sells a Legacy GT 1-3 with OEM WRX 4&5. Supposed to be a good mild upgrade for good $. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) |
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| atsealevel914 |
Mar 20 2008, 08:35 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 103 Joined: 31-January 04 From: Miami,FL Member No.: 1,618 |
Steve, Hello. Any idea when youre gonna ship the flanges out?
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