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> Spanish 914-6 GT Yellow, Could this be one of the missing GT's
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post Dec 5 2005, 09:04 PM
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post Dec 6 2005, 12:02 AM
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QUOTE (smg914 @ Dec 6 2005, 03:32 AM)
Any chance the VIN number is shown somewhere in the article??????

914.0.43.1569 - the ex Tergal Monte Carlo GT

owner is the president of the spanish Porsche Club

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post Dec 6 2005, 08:01 AM
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QUOTE (Gustl @ Dec 5 2005, 10:02 PM)
914.0.43.1569 - the ex Tergal Monte Carlo GT

Interesting then, since 9140431569 is a 1970 914/6, and this car appears to either be a 914/4 or a 1972 914/6. Probably two different cars. The conversion to a GT is substantial with the GT 100 L tank. It would be nice to track it down and get more details.
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post Dec 6 2005, 08:16 AM
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AFAIK here are some guys who know spanish - I don't understand a single word (well, I know serveca (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif) )

this GT is owned by the president of the spanish Porsche Club

here's the homepage: http://www.clubporsche.es/

maybe anybody could ask for more details (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/confused24.gif)

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post Dec 6 2005, 09:52 AM
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post Dec 6 2005, 10:00 AM
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post Dec 6 2005, 11:58 AM
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QUOTE (Gustl @ Dec 6 2005, 06:16 AM)
AFAIK here are some guys who know spanish - I don't understand a single word (well, I know serveca (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif) )

this GT is owned by the president of the spanish Porsche Club

here's the homepage: http://www.clubporsche.es/

maybe anybody could ask for more details (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/confused24.gif)

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Hey Gustl, (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) thanks for the info, I went on there web site and I could not find anything on his 914. I will e-mail the club and see if they might help us.

As I mentioned before I heard that this Yellow 914-6 had been in a wreck and possible thats why it has some 914-4 stuff on it. like the key on the colum.

There is also another article from a magazine Motor Clasico that shows the Kramer brother racing a red narrow body 914-6 in a vintaged rally and they came over all second. When I can I will scan this one too.

I guess that there are Kramers brothers in Spain also driving 914-6.

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post Dec 6 2005, 11:58 AM
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QUOTE (JmuRiz @ Dec 6 2005, 10:52 AM)
Anyone else notice the black headlight surrounds? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/idea.gif)

What color should the headlight surrounds be? I painted mine black but I thought I saw a pic in an old magazine with black surrounds.

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post Dec 6 2005, 12:17 PM
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QUOTE (JmuRiz @ Dec 6 2005, 10:52 AM)
Anyone else notice the black headlight surrounds?  :idea:

What color should the headlight surrounds be? I painted mine black but I thought I saw a pic in an old magazine with black surrounds.

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early surrounds are white, actually off-white . . . I had noticed.
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post Dec 6 2005, 01:30 PM
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As I mentioned before I heard that this Yellow 914-6 had been in a wreck and possible thats why it has some 914-4 stuff on it. like the key on the colum.

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Hello Quilmes! Most if not all 1972 Porsche 914-6 cars were NOT finished at the Porsche factory as did the 1970-1971 year 914-6 model cars. This is why you'll find the 914-4 steering colunms, 914-4 levers, 914-4 relay board and 914-4 engine wiring harness (with an adapter) as well as the dead-give-away "ignition key-switch mounted on the steering column" as can be seen in this Yellow 1972 914-6 car.

Another possible interesting difference to verify about these 1972 cars; I know someone with a 1972 Porsche 914-6 and will ask him to check the motor mount and firewall to see if those 1972 Porche 914-6 cars left the assembly line with the correct early (70-71) 914-6 motor-mount bracket or a "914-4 to 914-6" engine adapter bracket installed... <!-- emo&<_< -->(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/dry.gif)<!-- endemo -->

It is my understanding that the 1972 produced Porsche 914-6 cars were built at the VW plant and are slightly "water-down" versions of the 1970-71 "Porsche" factory 914-6 built cars (and I'm not talking about the chassis). Unfortunately, most of us that are not familiar with the above details will often confuse and mistakenly identify these 72' model 914-6s (not many!) with the more common '914-4 to 914-6 street conversions'...

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post Dec 6 2005, 02:08 PM
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Is the 9140xxxxxx VIN listed above incorrect? If a 72 it should be 9142xxxxxx.
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post Dec 6 2005, 03:13 PM
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QUOTE (Porsche Rescue @ Dec 6 2005, 12:08 PM)
Is the 9140xxxxxx VIN listed above incorrect? If a 72 it should be 9142xxxxxx.

Well, yes it would be correct. There was only 260 914/6 in 1972 and this is far beyond that.
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Then I am confused. Do all agree that it is a conversion and not a true GT?
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post Dec 6 2005, 04:18 PM
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QUOTE (davep @ Dec 6 2005, 01:13 PM)
QUOTE (Porsche Rescue @ Dec 6 2005, 12:08 PM)
Is the 9140xxxxxx VIN listed above incorrect? If a 72 it should be 9142xxxxxx.

Well, yes it would be correct. There was only 260 914/6 in 1972 and this is far beyond that.

I dont' know if this will answer your numbers questions but here it goes.

All 914-6 had the vin numbers from 1970 till 1972 reflect the year they where made.
example:
1970 914-6 would read 9140431111
1971 would be 9141431111
and of course a 914-6 from 1972 9142430260 the last number on the 914-6 list.
The number that changes is the one after the 914 indicatin what year the car is from .

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post Dec 6 2005, 04:28 PM
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QUOTE (Porsche Rescue @ Dec 6 2005, 02:18 PM)
Then I am confused. Do all agree that it is a conversion and not a true GT?

Not at all. It could easily be a 1972 914/6 but we don't know the VIN. We know a lot of 72 model 914/6 had flared fenders. First we need to establish that it is an original 914/6. Too little is known yet.
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post Dec 6 2005, 04:33 PM
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I know of no factory built 914-6 GT race cars in 1972 so I can confortably say the Porsche factory did not have anything to do with it. Maybe a "Porsche authorized dealer" ordered the necessary "GT" parts (100 liter tank, etc.) and that could probably be verified...

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post Dec 6 2005, 11:36 PM
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someone mentioned before that the original Tergal GT was wrecked
so it could be possible, that this yellow car has some parts of the Tergal GT, including the VIN ?

I contacted the guy who told me that the VIN of the yellow car is 914.0.43.1569 and asked him about the not matching things - I'm curious about his answer ...

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post Dec 6 2005, 11:48 PM
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QUOTE (ajserrano @ Dec 6 2005, 03:33 PM)
I know of no factory built 914-6 GT race cars in 1972 so I can confortably say the Porsche factory did not have anything to do with it. Maybe a "Porsche authorized dealer" ordered the necessary "GT" parts (100 liter tank, etc.) and that could probably be verified...

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/agree.gif) last factory GT i know of was "914 143 0141", internal project number "914/58" ...


however, the later column *could* be a replacement if the car was wrecked at one point.
one would have to know the VIN for sure ...

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post Dec 7 2005, 01:43 AM
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QUOTE (SirAndy @ Dec 7 2005, 06:48 AM)
one would have to know the VIN for sure ...

well, I've got the VIN info from a really truthworthy guy
he's a long term member of the Porsche 914-6 Club in Germany and a kind of "master of historic research" (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif)

as I told you, I asked him about the mismatch
as far as I get his answer, I'll let you know

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QUOTE (Gustl @ Dec 7 2005, 12:43 AM)
"master of historic research"

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