More clamshell pics, Here they are... Options

[mikelsr]

QUOTE (9146986 @ Jan 4 2006, 04:54 PM)

Here's a pic of one of the installation "deviations" I do when installing this kit.  It helps alot, and Brad likes the idea too.  The "windows" are to weld the longitudinal stiffeners to the vertical ribs.  The holes are covered by the sill plates.

Perry,
I plan on doing this mod in the spring. When I talked to Brad he thought it would be a good idea to find out how my car handles without the stiffeners and then with. So I spent part of this summer running AXes (when it wasn't on jacks). Do you have a close up of your "windows" mods or "deviations"?

Mark,
Brad and Mike showed me the stiffeners and how they fit but I hadn't see them on a car. Thanks for posting this.

Mike

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Mark,

I missed MWC... I think it was a race weekend. My car's not exactly "show quality"

[dkos]

QUOTE (marks914 @ Jan 4 2006, 08:51 PM)

Here's where to weld:

THANKS!!! Keep the info coming. I have Brad's Kit and intend to install it. I'm just waiting on Restoration Design. I've been calling for 3 days trying to order the inner rockers.

[Bleyseng]

For the inner long, look at the Engman kit as it ties the long to the bulkhead and strenghtens the car right where it folds in two.

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[indydad]

I'm doing the same thing right now. I got my stiffeners from Partwerk of Chicago. Actually had no problem from them, but that was several years ago.
I have Osphoed the inside of the longs twice, should be coated good. I plan to Por-15 the outer long after I do the same repair as you before the stiffener goes on and Por-15 both sides of the stiffener grinding off any welding spots.
I wonder if it would be a good idea to tack on both sides and then alternate welding from side to side to avoid warping. I am leaving the targa on and doors closed as much as possible. My door gap is good now.
Floor pans next. Does it ever end?
Ole dad in Indy

[marks914]

It seems that the 914 that are available recently are infected by rust. At least there are options for repairing them and keeping them from the crusher! That's why I started this thread, to show the mysterious clamshells to others so that more cars can be saved. They are not difficult to install, it just takes paitence.

I think the side to welding is a good idea, but it would take alot of warping to affect the frame.

Mark

[IanStott]

I'm in the middle of a restoration and very interested in what you are doing. I have new inner rockers and a stiffening long piece from restoration design,( both sides) I agree in getting all rust looked after then rebuild. A product called Rust Check is very common here, I have been using it since the early 80's on all my cars, they have stood up to the salt and snow very well. I won't be driving my 914 in the salt!!! Noticed you have Pirelli tires, how are they and what size are they??

Ian Stott
Moncton
Canada

[marks914]

QUOTE (IanStott @ Jan 5 2006, 12:57 PM)

I'm in the middle of a restoration and very interested in what you are doing. I have new inner rockers and a stiffening long piece from restoration design,( both sides) I agree in getting all rust looked after then rebuild. A product called Rust Check is very common here, I have been using it since the early 80's on all my cars, they have stood up to the salt and snow very well. I won't be driving my 914 in the salt!!! Noticed you have Pirelli tires, how are they and what size are they?? Ian Stott Moncton Canada

I'm running Pirelli P6s, 205 50 17. I guess they're OK, they were the cheapest ones I could get. They do smoke easily!
Mark

[marks914]

Here's a pic with the tires:

Mark

[IanStott]

First you have a very nice looking car! If mine looks half that good I will be pleased. Would you recommend the Pirelli's?

Ian Stott
Moncton

[mudfoot76]

QUOTE (IanStott @ Jan 6 2006, 08:54 AM)

Would you recommend the Pirelli's?

I have them on my car too. I don't AX, but I do DE track weekends. So far, so good. They don't wear too quickly. They don't handle quite as well as the Dunlops that I replaced, but that is not too big a deal to me. I bought them b/c they were about $65/each from Tirerack and I needed a new set of tires at the time, and these were on sale. Oh yeah, 205s all the way around, under stock fenders. They are a good general purpose tire, IMHO.

[marks914]

QUOTE (IanStott @ Jan 6 2006, 05:54 AM)

First you have a very nice looking car! If mine looks half that good I will be pleased. Would you recommend the Pirelli's? Ian Stott Moncton

Sure, I'd reccomend the Pirellis, they aren't too bad.

These cars never seem to be done!

Mark

[Tom Perso]

Nice car! I just had to add since I see my Michigan brothers are working while mine still sits on jackstands... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif)

Tom

[dkos]

marks914,

I usually prefer the stock look, but your car looks awesome!

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[wertygrog]

hmmm where does one get this kit, and is it better than the RD clamshells? I'm from a tub-recovery perspective as the rear two thirds of my outer longs are rusted out. The plan is to cut out the rust, POR everthing, and throw a clamshell on there. Sound good? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)


brent

[IronHillRestorations]

QUOTE (wertygrog @ Jan 10 2006, 01:33 PM)

hmmm where does one get this kit, and is it better than the RD clamshells? I'm from a tub-recovery perspective as the rear two thirds of my outer longs are rusted out. The plan is to cut out the rust, POR everthing, and throw a clamshell on there. Sound good? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) brent

Brad Mayer, 914 LTD. Peoria, IL

Yes, better. Heavier though too, at least twice the weight. A little more crude, but easier to install than the RD pieces, and they give outer suspension support better than anything else.

I've installed them on some pretty high $ projects.

I'd recommend them for your application. These are perfect for saving a car and keeping on the road.

[marks914]

They were $330 shipping included, my car is stiff as hell now!
Mark

[wertygrog]

was that for both sides?

brent

[alpha434]

QUOTE (9146986 @ Jan 10 2006, 04:58 PM)

QUOTE (wertygrog @ Jan 10 2006, 01:33 PM) hmmm where does one get this kit, and is it better than the RD clamshells? I'm from a tub-recovery perspective as the rear two thirds of my outer longs are rusted out. The plan is to cut out the rust, POR everthing, and throw a clamshell on there. Sound good? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) brent Brad Mayer, 914 LTD. Peoria, IL Yes, better. Heavier though too, at least twice the weight. A little more crude, but easier to install than the RD pieces, and they give outer suspension support better than anything else. I've installed them on some pretty high $ projects. I'd recommend them for your application. These are perfect for saving a car and keeping on the road.

Well, it's a positive weight increase. And now with the SCCA weight hit....

Well, everyone needs to gain some positive weight.

[turbo914v8]

The trick to getting your order processed from RD is to place your order on line. Bill will call you back in a matter of days to finalize your order. I have been ordering from RD like crazy and have no complaints. The parts are kick ass and fit great right out of the box.