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> Sway bars...where to find, how much, worth it?
Mockmaw
post Sep 8 2003, 12:06 AM
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Thanks for pointing that out, I'll try to keep that in mind to see if I can minimize the pain when I go to install it.

I've heard that removing the gas tank can be a real PITA because the original fuel lines are so short. Any idea what the best way is of handling this? (or is this misinformation that I've gathered?)
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post Sep 8 2003, 12:06 AM
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Very helpful pic, thanks Andy
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post Sep 8 2003, 12:07 AM
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there's a big access hole from underneath the car.
very easy to get to the lines from there.
if you have the metal protecting cover for your suspension, you need to remove that first.

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post Sep 8 2003, 12:08 AM
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I'm 99% certain that the protective plate is NOT on my car. Sounds like with a hoist cutting the lines through the access hole should be cake.
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post Sep 8 2003, 12:10 AM
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Jack the car up and remove the lines from the bottom (after pulling the splash pan off ..4 bolts) then yank the tank out. No biggie. This way it doesnt matter what the length of the lines are. After the tank is out..THEN replace the lines with something "slightly" longer if you feel they are too short. If you go to long.. the tank will pinch the lines and cause you all kinds of pressure related headaches.


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post Sep 8 2003, 12:11 AM
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post Sep 8 2003, 03:43 PM
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I have a weird swaybar on my car right now that bolts up to the underneath of the suspension. It attaches to the stock utabs with a bracket. It seems to work OK but only gives me about 2.5" of ground clearance. I will probably replace it with a tarret unit soon.

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post Sep 8 2003, 03:50 PM
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Actual work time on mine was about 5 hours. The hardest part was cutting the holes like brad mentioned earlier, and making sure the mounts were aligned before I drilled. the fuel tank removal was surprisingly simple. The welt bar does not come with the backing plate. its around ~$20 extra.
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post Sep 8 2003, 04:31 PM
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Brad Are you suggesting that the triangle back-plates be welded in instead of just using the bolts to sandwich the well? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Sep 8 2003, 05:06 PM
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Yes, he is. Especially for the 22mm bar. Not a bad idea for the smaller ones, but not that necessary. It makes for a stronger attachment.

DO NOT USE the "no gas tank removal required" kit. It sucks and will tear out.

The under-body sway bar setup may be off a 911, if you have a five-bolt conversion, or it may be aftermarket like Addco or one of those. It is regarded as slightly inferior to a through-body sway bar.

Check the Pelican tech article for questions on installing the through-body sway bar.

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post Sep 8 2003, 05:26 PM
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QUOTE(synthesisdv @ Sep 8 2003, 02:43 PM)
I have a weird swaybar on my car right now that bolts up to the underneath of the suspension. It attaches to the stock utabs with a bracket. It seems to work OK but only gives me about 2.5" of ground clearance. I will probably replace it with a tarret unit soon.

sounds like stock 911. that's what my 86 carrera suspension came with.
it works fine, except it's not adjustable ...

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post Sep 8 2003, 06:20 PM
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I did my front sway a couple weeks ago... wasn't too bad either. I followed the tech article from Pelican
http://www.pelicanparts.com/techarticles/9...ont_swaybar.htm
One of the things he mentioned about the fuel lines was after you get the passenger side of the gas tank up so you can see the fuel lines just reach in & cut them since they wil be replaced anyway. That I did & it was really easy from there. A normal sized set of dykes (side cutters (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) ) did it quick. To cut the area for the back plate I used a 3/8ths drill bit and made about 5 holes. Then attached a metal rasp to my drill & shaped the cut out to allow enough room to get the plate & nut down in there. I think that was the hardest part. But then there was the other part of puting the bar through the bushings. The article says to bolt the outside plate with the bushings to the rear loosely. I found it didn't matter how loose it was the damn bar wasn't gonna slide thru no matter how much slick-um I had on 'em. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) I undid the top outside bolts, and let the outside plate fall forward. Then put the bushing on the bar & was able to slide the outside plate over the bushing, put in the bolts & tighten 'em up. Worked great & I didn't bust a vessel (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) try'n to push that bar thru like the article suggests.
This sway bar made drivin' 100% more fun!
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post Sep 8 2003, 08:34 PM
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Another question.. for the backing plate, do I just buy 'one' (and the package comes with plates for both sides) or do I need to buy a quantity of 'two' of the kits?
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post Sep 9 2003, 12:07 AM
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Don't know about buying the plates... sorry.
I made mine. They were rough but they worked fine. Get some steel the same thickness as the outside mounts, trace a pattern from them & cut away! I used a hand held jig saw. Went thru 4 or 5 blades cuz I was impatient & tried to cut too fast (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) The bottom nut that goes into the cut away area on the inside of the fender was where you need to either spot weld or get it to stick long enough to the home made plate to get a bolt started. I used AB epoxy that sets up in 10 min.
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post Sep 9 2003, 01:18 AM
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I don't suppose youz guys wanna hear bout the .06 doubler plate I welded to the outside of the inner fender in that inverted U shape area ..............
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post Sep 9 2003, 01:19 AM
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Show us pics...



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post Sep 9 2003, 01:46 AM
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Did I tell ya that my wife bought this new puter for me....without akin' me bout the subject?

She decided I didn't need a floppy drive on it. All my old pics are on them floppy thingys. I'm gonna have to go buy an external floppy drive.....when I get done being pissed.

I tried puting this here drive in the puter.....wrong wire loom...got that...no mounting brackets....show stopper.
No pics. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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post Sep 9 2003, 01:48 AM
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Ha ha ha...

I bet is has 350 USB ports tho...


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post Sep 9 2003, 08:55 AM
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Do sway bars wear out or get "tired"? If they're rusty, can they be bead-blasted without harming their performance?
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post Sep 9 2003, 09:48 AM
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Hey J P,
For the time being, just open the case up, plug it in and let the floppy drive sit on its side on top of the case or something. Hopefully the cables are long enough to give you a little play. At least it will allow you to get the pictures off the floppies and onto your hard drive or a CD if you have a burner.

Or maybe borrow someone elses computer (that still has one of those ancient floppy drives) and email the pictures to yourself?

Or lastly, if you just lay the floppies on the monitor, osmosis will generally work... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Thanks to the common misconception (among 1 yr. olds) that the floppy drive is a great place to put anything and everything small enough to fit in it, I haven't used a floppy disk in years. Mine probably has a buck in change rattling around in it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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