914 power windows, using a universal kit 101 Options

[Dr Evil]

And then there were none..... I am not to confident that I will be getting any more inthe near future either sooo youguys can consider your selves lucky (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smilie_pokal.gif) I will be posting wiring and stuff as time permits.

[firstknight13]

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smilie_pokal.gif) OK now i NEED one too!!!! DOC i need a fix (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/aktion035.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smoke.gif)

[Dr Evil]

Sorry Dude,
I don't know when/if I will get any more. I will be keeping an eye out, though. I kinda dont want to deal with the guy that I bought these from. He is a bit of a jerk. These first 4 were to test market. If I get enough interest I will actively seek out more kits with the full intention of keeping the cost low.

[Dr Evil]

All of the orders shipped yesterday (except for the ones that are being picked up).

FYI, the video that I took WAS with a basically dead battery. I charged it yesterday and it was almost empty. Just food for thought.

[Dr Evil]

Alrighty, here are the wiring instructions in free hand. The switch does not care if you hook it up one way or another since it is symetrical (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Any questions, just post here and I will get to them.

[jim_hoyland]

Mike,

Is the diagram pretty much the same as the wiring and connectors are already layed out. Just looked at the wiring briefly today, and it seemed pretty straight forward.

[Dr Evil]

Yup, the diagram is based on if you want ot run two switches instead of the three. Color of wire is largely unimportant, location on the switch is.

I PMed you a response also, but please do aks as many questions as you may have here so all can benefit.

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[jim_hoyland]

Mike,

Installed the switches today, found some really nice holders at West Marine. Pic..

Check this site out: http://www.julianos.com/ they have some nice swithch plates and have a look at the e-brake set up they sell....

[Stieve]

Mike,

Installed the switches today, found some really nice holders at West Marine. Pic..

Check this site out: http://www.julianos.com/ they have some nice swithch plates and have a look at the e-brake set up they sell....

I am also interested, is there a brand name?

[jim_hoyland]

I already tosssed the boxes--Cole Hersee is the brand name. They are sold as inner and outer units. They lock together. I bought two ends and locked them together. They have inside singles, 2's and 3's. Very nice set up. All the West Marine stores must carry them; I have seen them in 2 stores. If you need more info, their is a West MArine down the street from me

[ptravnic]

Very clean! Well Done!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

I already tosssed the boxes--Cole Hersee is the brand name. They are sold as inner and outer units. They lock together. I bought two ends and locked them together. They have inside singles, 2's and 3's. Very nice set up. All the West Marine stores must carry them; I have seen them in 2 stores. If you need more info, their is a West MArine down the street from me

[jim_hoyland]

There isn't much room under the center pad. I had to ditch the white plastic connectors nthat plug into the bottom of each switch and use small 90 degree female connectors. These are pretty sweetl. Soldered to the 90's and then covered the connectors with liquid connector goop. This stuff acts like the plastic covers and will keep the 90's from touching one another. Made a short loom for the two sides, ground, and power that terminates just short of the panel with the gauges for quick disconnect. Used the plastic six wire connectors that came with the package.

[Dr Evil]

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) I knew that you would do them right.

Just wait until next weekend when I take some pictures of my glorious set up. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

My drivers side is a bit bound up and I need to reposition the motor so it is less of an angle on the drive line. The passenger side is perfect. Our doors are a real PITA to get clean and lubed and set right. I bet your car will be the best.

[jim_hoyland]

I havn't installed the motors yet; starting at the switches and working outward. You know I have speakers mounted behind the door panels; do you think I will be able to install anyway ? or will I have to get creative ?

And, heard you say you are working on a small auxillary fuse pane.. I'm in real need of one.

[Dr Evil]

As for a small aux panel, I have pretty much given up on the idea as I have seen, touched, coveted, and admired Engman's kit and would not be able to make anything that would do what his kit did not already do. And the price is rediculously low (this is not a paid endorsement, but it could be (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) )
I would contact him about makbe getting one of his 5 gang fuse panels in the raw so you can install it somewhere. He could probably hook you up with a set up worthy of the polished nature of your car.

Now that you have the motor sets you can decide how you want to install them. It was hard for me to do (especially alone). There are several options, but the main idea is to not bend the cable too much. The straighter the cable, the more tourque and the better the operation. All I could think of was that you may need to notch your door all the way across to place the cable track in it, but this may be prohibitive. You may be able to get away with it behind the speaker. Gonna need pics to help brain storm.

I know Scott Kline has a lot of experience with doing kits like this. You should shoot him a PM and see if he can help you out with the install. You are lucky because he lives near you.

[jim_hoyland]

Anyone do the full install after Dr. Evils oiginal post ? I'm still at the "install the motor stage".Was wondering if anyone discovered a way to install the motor with speakers still in the door ? Probably not possible, but wanted to check.

[Dr Evil]

Hey Jim,
Taking a break from cardio at teh moment and was thinking that maybe you could mount a bracket in the door that puts the motor at a slight angle, but next to the speaker. Hard to describe, but the main idea is you want to maintain the largest radius possible. If you put the bracket pointing into the door and make it so it sits right next to the speaker you should have enough room for both. Should, but I havent looked at mine in a while and I may be off in my mental calculations. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Back to the grind...

[jim_hoyland]

Interesting idea. WIll I need to attach working end to the winder shaft, wire it up and see if it works at that angle ???

[Dr Evil]

That would be a good test to do. It took me a loooooong time to get the darn windows adjusted jsut right so that they worked well. So many adjustments. That and I lubed everything....maybe too much in some spots, but it works...wish the car did.

[jim_hoyland]

I don't suppose you are coming out to the left coast are you; I sense this project really requires the expertise of someone who has "been there". I'm not in a rush, so if you do plan a trip in the next year, I can hold it.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


Hope you Med School is working out; we need some doctors with a healthy sense of humor.

That would be a good test to do. It took me a loooooong time to get the darn windows adjusted jsut right so that they worked well. So many adjustments. That and I lubed everything....maybe too much in some spots, but it works...wish the car did.