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> PMS bar mount failure, the picture
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post Apr 28 2006, 09:52 AM
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But what if you want to go back to a /4? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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Why would I want to turn it back into a Volkswagen? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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post Apr 28 2006, 09:55 AM
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QUOTE(grantsfo @ Apr 28 2006, 08:28 AM) *

Speaking of weight savings. In talking with Rich he indicated that I could cut out the standard 914-4 engine mounting structures which allows for better access to engine and cuts weight.


I knew given enough time and pushing we would get you into the right way of thinking....

yes...
yes you can...

now go get on some scales.
(oh... don't forget to add the 471$ price tag to your two thousand or what ever conversion total... )

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post Apr 28 2006, 09:57 AM
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So you have a match for the other VW parts.
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post Apr 28 2006, 10:15 AM
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QUOTE(brant @ Apr 28 2006, 08:55 AM) *

QUOTE(grantsfo @ Apr 28 2006, 08:28 AM) *

Speaking of weight savings. In talking with Rich he indicated that I could cut out the standard 914-4 engine mounting structures which allows for better access to engine and cuts weight.


I knew given enough time and pushing we would get you into the right way of thinking....

yes...
yes you can...

now go get on some scales.
(oh... don't forget to add the 471$ price tag to your two thousand or what ever conversion total... )

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Dont forget my PMS bar is still in great shape. I'm sure I can recoup some money from somone who does a small displacement street car.

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post Apr 28 2006, 05:18 PM
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With the stock FOUR mounts, yes I thought of that already.

If my ( when my ) SIX blows up, I can slap the FOUR back in the car with carbs and still play while tracking down another SIX.

It appears $1500 for my complete 2.0 FOUR is to pricy for this crowd, so I'll keep it around until I need it that one day. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Let's not talk about that anymore though, OK?


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post Apr 28 2006, 05:38 PM
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QUOTE(trekkor @ Apr 28 2006, 04:18 PM) *

Let's not talk about that anymore though, OK?

says the guy in the 248's post in this thread ...

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post Apr 28 2006, 05:44 PM
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NO, no! We can keep this topic alive as long as we please.
It's blowing up my SIX I'd like to forget.


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post Apr 28 2006, 05:54 PM
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QUOTE(trekkor @ Apr 28 2006, 04:44 PM) *

NO, no! We can keep this topic alive as long as we please.
It's blowing up my SIX I'd like to forget.


Whoo hoo (IMG:style_emoticons/default/Jumpy.gif)


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Should we be starting up a pool to name the date and place?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif)
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post Apr 28 2006, 05:56 PM
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Should we be starting up a pool to name the date and place?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif)

$10 bucks that he's not going to make it through this season without braking either the motor mount or the engine ...

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post Apr 28 2006, 05:58 PM
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Apr 28 2006, 04:56 PM) *

QUOTE(Mueller @ Apr 28 2006, 04:54 PM) *

Should we be starting up a pool to name the date and place?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif)

$10 bucks that he's not going to make it through this season without braking either the motor mount or the engine ...

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20 says he will make a few trips to home depot for the race car (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chairfall.gif)

PVC motor mount anyone?
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post Apr 28 2006, 06:02 PM
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"Quite a turn, unexpected, this thread has taken"-Yoda.
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post Apr 28 2006, 06:03 PM
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I made a call to a certain friend of mine who owns a parts house that knows the seller of the mount and suggested that he tell the seller of the mount to pull his head out of his ass and back his product....the parts seller said that was a good idea and would pass the suggestion along.....let's see what happens....
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post Apr 28 2006, 06:12 PM
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I wonder if this thread has been "seen by seller". (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

I plan to send the repaired mount pics directly to him with a follow up phone call.

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post Apr 28 2006, 06:15 PM
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QUOTE((*)(*) @ Apr 28 2006, 05:03 PM) *

I made a call to a certain friend of mine who owns a parts house that knows the seller of the mount and suggested that he tell the seller of the mount to pull his head out of his ass and back his product....the parts seller said that was a good idea and would pass the suggestion along.....let's what happens....



I was pretty sure it sounded like it was going to be returned/resolved but Trek made the choice to fix it.

If it breaks again after he mod's it, he has no right to call and complain about it..........
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post Apr 28 2006, 06:20 PM
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I plan to send the repaired mount pics directly to him with a follow up phone call.

KT


Not knowing the man myself, I'm pretty sure that he couldn't care less about the "repaired" part. What he wanted to see, I'm sure, was the failed part that he produces. It's really no longer his part after it's been modified.

The only way he'd be interested (I think) is if you offer to help him redesign the part so that it's stronger, without costing more to fabricate. Just a hunch...

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post Apr 28 2006, 06:21 PM
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QUOTE(trekkor @ Apr 28 2006, 04:12 PM) *

I plan to send the repaired mount pics directly to him with a follow up phone call.

KT


Not knowing the man myself, I'm pretty sure that he couldn't care less about the "repaired" part. What he wanted to see, I'm sure, was the failed part that he produces. It's really no longer his part after it's been modified.

The only way he'd be interested (I think) is if you offer to help him redesign the part so that it's stronger, without costing more to fabricate. Just a hunch...

-Josh2


if he offered to replace the bar - why are you even touching it?

break another one... and another one... and then will you go firewall mount (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ?
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post Apr 28 2006, 06:27 PM
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That's true. I didn't want to deal with shipping , waiting, inspecting, etc.

I inspected this bar prior to install and when I had it out for the racing trans swap.
Looked good both times to me and others.

From an e-mail I sent on the 25th:
"...Truthfully, I'd have to have him ( my welder ) go over any replacement part you may be willing to offer.
After what I found yesterday, I was completely shocked at the lack of welds."

After that statement, no further contact has been made.

Am I mean?

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post Apr 28 2006, 06:30 PM
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The pics he gets from me will show what *real* welds look like. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif)

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post Apr 28 2006, 06:33 PM
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Trekkor,

Sorry to see this. All I can say is, it lasted a lot longer than mine! Here are some shots of how mine looked after two autocrosses with my "monster" 2.0L motor and a 205-50 R compound khumo.

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Here's how I attempted to fix it. I still didn't like it. Under full throttle over bumps I could hear the engine revs jump as it flexed.

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Went to a Rich Johnson mount. That thing is SOLID. Anyone interested in buying the above mount for $125, please PM me. If you are only running on the street, I believe this mount will be fine.

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I just ground all the old "welds" off.

My welder picked up the Cro-Mo TIG rods.

Tomorrow night (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif)


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