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MYTHBUSTERS: Did Gugelot really design the 914? |
So.Cal.914 |
May 9 2006, 08:49 PM
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"...And it has a front trunk too." Group: Members Posts: 6,588 Joined: 15-February 04 From: Low Desert, CA./ Hills of N.J. Member No.: 1,658 Region Association: None |
Thanks Wilco. Great Pics! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smoke.gif)
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DEC |
May 10 2006, 01:05 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 630 Joined: 10-November 05 From: Rehburg Member No.: 5,104 Region Association: Germany |
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Bleyseng |
May 10 2006, 04:15 AM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,036 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Wow, amazing photos of the model and thanks for posting. The 914 always has seemed to be a interesting German style car, similar to the German styling of the 60's to me.
Ah, heck what do I know stuck here is Suriname now. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) |
DEC |
May 10 2006, 01:09 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 630 Joined: 10-November 05 From: Rehburg Member No.: 5,104 Region Association: Germany |
Hello Andy The Klie clay model is existing today. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) A 914-friend got the model as a gift from Mr. Klie as he bought his very early 1.7. This clay model is a unique 914 how the Klie real 914 with many different parts as the series. Wilco (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) Correction (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) Today I had a telephone call with Norbert. He told me that the Klie 914 is a 1970 model with first licence in 1973. The car was more than two years in the Porsche test department and have many different parts. The side vents in the dash are allegeable with this Informations. The dash part you can see on the attached photo is from the Klie 914. If you have the DGVWPB (Andy) compare this with the photo side 25 in the upper right corner. Further Informations about the Klie 914 will follow. Wilco (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) |
Gustl |
May 10 2006, 01:56 PM
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914 enthusiast & historian Group: Members Posts: 11,671 Joined: 16-June 04 From: TIROL / Austria Member No.: 2,212 Region Association: Austria |
Wilco, I'm really impressed about all this fascinating material and data you're posting here (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumb3d.gif)
did you ever post something of this stuff at the PFF (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) I can't remember seeing this before (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool_shades.gif) anyhow ... it seems that you choose this place the right to be (IMG:style_emoticons/default/clap56.gif) keep on posting (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wavey.gif) Gustl |
DEC |
May 10 2006, 02:34 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 630 Joined: 10-November 05 From: Rehburg Member No.: 5,104 Region Association: Germany |
Wilco, I'm really impressed about all this fascinating material and data you're posting here (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumb3d.gif) did you ever post something of this stuff at the PFF (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) I can't remember seeing this before (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool_shades.gif) anyhow ... it seems that you choose this place the right to be (IMG:style_emoticons/default/clap56.gif) keep on posting (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wavey.gif) Gustl Wolfgang, hab ich nicht und werde ich auch nicht bis.... ja bis jemand so einen Thread startet. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chairfall.gif) Wilco (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) Explanation: PFF is the german Porsche Fan Forum Excuse me that I answer this post in german. |
Gustl |
May 10 2006, 02:57 PM
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914 enthusiast & historian Group: Members Posts: 11,671 Joined: 16-June 04 From: TIROL / Austria Member No.: 2,212 Region Association: Austria |
Excuse me that I answer this post in german. well ... that's o.k. for me (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) |
SirAndy |
May 10 2006, 03:00 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,889 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
Today I had a telephone call with Norbert. He told me that the Klie 914 is a 1970 model with first licence in 1973. The car was more than two years in the Porsche test department and have many different parts. The side vents in the dash are allegeable with this Informations. The dash part you can see on the attached photo is from the Klie 914. If you have the DGVWPB (Andy) compare this with the photo side 25 in the upper right corner. looks to be the same car! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) DGVWPB, page 25, upper right hand corner, caption says (losely translated): "The electronical Check-System was omitted from the production cars to keep the price down." the car has some '73 features, dash sidevents, center console. i'm guessing this picture was taken somewhere after '73, after klie had "updated" the car ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool_shades.gif) Andy Attached image(s) |
Mueller |
May 10 2006, 03:02 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,150 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
QUOTE "The electronical Check-System was omitted from the production cars to keep the price down." do you have a description of what this did and how?? |
SirAndy |
May 10 2006, 03:09 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,889 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
more pictures of the clay model ...
NOTE: on the second pic, you can see the normal single headlight versus the dual-headlight, which was only build once, on what is now Dr. Piech's red 914-8 ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rocking nana.gif) Andy PS: these pictures appear to be from the latest stages of the clay model as it is almost exactly the same as the current pictures wilco posted. even the license plate matches! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Attached image(s) |
SirAndy |
May 10 2006, 03:11 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,889 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE "The electronical Check-System was omitted from the production cars to keep the price down." do you have a description of what this did and how?? yes. electronical self-diagnostic system. for each circuit, there is a diagnostic light (above the knobs), when you turn on the ignition, the system runs a self test, and if a circuit fails the test, the warning light will stay on ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumb3d.gif) Andy |
sixerdon |
May 10 2006, 04:17 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 466 Joined: 23-May 03 From: Dartmouth, MA Member No.: 731 |
So the Klie 914 was a factory test mule. Which factory??
Could be an early 1970 model? The VIN number and other chassis infomation would help us. Fascinating! Don |
DEC |
May 17 2006, 09:58 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 630 Joined: 10-November 05 From: Rehburg Member No.: 5,104 Region Association: Germany |
So the Klie 914 was a factory test mule. Which factory?? Could be an early 1970 model? The VIN number and other chassis infomation would help us. Fascinating! Don Thanks Andy for cleaning and updating the website (IMG:style_emoticons/default/clap56.gif) @Dan 1)In the Porsche Design center 2)The VIN comes at last (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) 3)Firstable two further pics... The passenger foot rest |
DEC |
May 17 2006, 10:01 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 630 Joined: 10-November 05 From: Rehburg Member No.: 5,104 Region Association: Germany |
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DEC |
May 18 2006, 02:27 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 630 Joined: 10-November 05 From: Rehburg Member No.: 5,104 Region Association: Germany |
Dan,
Here is the maintenance book with the VIN (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shocked[1].gif) I post the pics how I get these. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/burnout.gif) Remember.....its not my car Wilco |
SirAndy |
May 18 2006, 02:33 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,889 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
Here is the maintenance book with the VIN so it's a fairly late '71 ... VIN: 471 29 10319 remember that europeans write the 1 like you guys write a 7, and the 7 always with a horizontal line, so don't get confused there ... Engine #: 0080472 the dealer started this maintenance booklet on "03/19/1974", the owner is listed as "Heinrich Klie" ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) Andy |
DEC |
May 20 2006, 12:23 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 630 Joined: 10-November 05 From: Rehburg Member No.: 5,104 Region Association: Germany |
here are any pics from the "Klie" 914
split mid console looks like selfmade (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) |
DEC |
May 20 2006, 12:28 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 630 Joined: 10-November 05 From: Rehburg Member No.: 5,104 Region Association: Germany |
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So.Cal.914 |
May 20 2006, 12:48 PM
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"...And it has a front trunk too." Group: Members Posts: 6,588 Joined: 15-February 04 From: Low Desert, CA./ Hills of N.J. Member No.: 1,658 Region Association: None |
Danke, grobe abbildungen und informationen halten sie ihn zu kommen. Nehmen
sie ihn einfach. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smoke.gif) |
DEC |
May 20 2006, 02:29 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 630 Joined: 10-November 05 From: Rehburg Member No.: 5,104 Region Association: Germany |
Danke, grobe abbildungen und informationen halten sie ihn zu kommen. Nehmen sie ihn einfach. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smoke.gif) ÄHHHHHH What do you mean ? A funny translation (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) Please write this in english once more (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) Wilco (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) |
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