914-6 GT? Options

[out_0f_exile]

We yhave paperwork from the factory saying its genuine straight off the production line and modified at the factory(i think). ill look through all of our pics. we have a ton, so it will take me a while to find the good and right ones. I ll post some pics when i find them!

[davep]

Excellent news, please keep us informed.

[out_0f_exile]

Ahh... Found the letters!

[GTeener]

Wow! Looks like a good find! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png)

This guy has a list of what I assume are all the 914-6's serial numbers. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) No pictures though...

http://www.pca.org/914/9146SerialNumbers2.htm

Did your step-dad buy his car from any of these folks?
http://www.pca.org/914/SIGsiteRegisters6.html

[grasshopper]

wow, love the misspellings on the PCNA document.... and it is from america...It wouldn't be so bad if it was from germany, but you would think that americans could write english....

[LvSteveH]

I'm not seeing anything in those docs that suggest the car is anything but a factory 914-6. Maybe someone could decode the engine number to shed further light on the subject.

[michel richard]

I'm not seeing anything in those docs that suggest the car is anything but a factory 914-6. Maybe someone could decode the engine number to shed further light on the subject.

From the letter, it may be that the flares were either factory or dealer installed. It does'nt actually say so, I agree, but just that would add significant value, even if more is needed to reach stratospheric figures.

An original /6 is nothing to sneeze at, to begin with. The engine serial number may tell us more, but I don't have the necessary data at hand.

Michel

[out_0f_exile]

I'm not too sure where he got it. I just discovered he has had it for quite a while, i just never knew about it. And thanks for all the welcomes, last forum group i joined pretty much told me go **** myself. But thanks for all the info. My step dad knows alot more than me, i was just doin some research for myself. ya know, see what i could find out.

But currently, the 914 is at my uncles bodyshop being resprayed. My step dad dropped a wrench on the door panel! I almost thought he was going to throw up. It was really bad, it left a huge chip in the paint.

So lately he's been working on our new race car. He spent about a year and a half working on his other one only to have a sway bar get bent getting some air at Heartland Park in Topeka, Kansas. Put him straight into the wall.

so.... just wastin time writing. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif)

[brant]

flares are nice..
but doesn't make it a full GT
the option for flares and racing parts was M471
funny that the documentation doesn't show your car to have that option.


I agree.. doesn't mean its not an awesome car, but might mean its a 30K car instead of a 130K car.

brant

[GTeener]

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[davep]

The M471 option was basically just the flares and related parts, and does not designate a GT. So all this means is that the car was originally delivered as a regular street 914/6. But then, a lot of racing 914/6 GT's also started the same way. So this could be a dealer conversion or a home conversion either of which means it could still be classified as a true GT. To be classified as a GT it would have had to have been raced in an appropriate class back in the early 1970's. A considerable number were raced back then. What will be most telling is the degree of conversion and the number of original GT parts that were used. Actual race history may be able to be determined. The older the conversion, the degree of conversion, and the extent of the racing history will dictate the value of the car.

This car is not on my list. I see it listed by Larry Lee, which means he has some record of the car. It would certainly be useful to find out what Larry has on the car.

The DOT date for the car should be 03/70, this is the date of assembly.

[out_0f_exile]

ok, ill check and see what Mr. Lee has to say. Thanks!

[brant]

What will be most telling is the degree of conversion and the number of original GT parts that were used.

I agree with this.
its worth further investigation.
my friends car came with not only the steel flares, but the correct cooler, the original hoods, and the correct thermostat.. a fairly complete package.

see what else your father in law's car has to go with the flares
motor ID is a big plus too.

brant

[John]

So lately he's been working on our new race car. He spent about a year and a half working on his other one only to have a sway bar get bent getting some air at Heartland Park in Topeka, Kansas. Put him straight into the wall.

I frequent that track.

What car got damaged? When was it? Was it at a club race, or at a D.E.?

I look forward to seeing it out there. Typically at D.E. events, ours is the only 914 there. For club races, usually a bunch from Colorado show up.

There is a DE at Heartland Park this weekend (June 2,3,4). The car and my dad will be there (I don't know if I'll be there or not as I have a new son, am trying to get over my surgury from last Friday, and trying to complete my 914/6 conversion).

[out_0f_exile]

It was a white 914. it was about a year and a half ago, so it was before they repaved it. he was going down the main straight and he got air on the part where the dragstrip runs into the road course part, or at least thats what i think he said.

I believe he was finishing up getting his liscense to drive in the PCA, but im not too sure. I wasnt there.

His current car isnt done yet. probably wont be until Fall or early winter. Its going to be an open cockpit car, probably orange and be number 89. He's thinking about racing in a vintage 914 class i believe in the SCCA.

I would actaully like to come to the track this weekend with my dad, but im shooting a movie with my friends, and i cant miss this one. sorry.

And Congrats on the new baby!

Im still looking and resizing some pics to post. It took me a while but i realized why i couldnt post the pics as is. Theyre way too huge. but ill get em, and ill even post some pics of the race cars.

[Rusty]

There was a guy in Junction City, Kansas who claimed to have a disassembled 914/6 GT... but he was a strange bird. Didn't return phone calls and flaked out a couple of times I asked to come take pictures. I got the impression he was worried someone might try to steal it... or maybe the story was a total fabrication. Eventually, I gave up.

Might be the same car... but I never did lay eyes on it.

Welcome... and congrats on the score!

-Rusty (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smoke.gif)

[Thack]

I saw in an Excellence article there were 50 914-6 GTs. Is this the case? Did people in Europe get these cars and not race them?

[brant]

I saw in an Excellence article there were 50 914-6 GTs. Is this the case? Did people in Europe get these cars and not race them?

my opinion.
part of the problem with this discussion/thread.. is "what constitutes a GT?"

there were I believe 200 fender kits produced.
they had to produce a certain number in order to legalized the option for their racing cars.

so does that mean 200 GT's existed
in my opinion no.
I don't think a fender kit constitues a real GT
a fender kit, makes it a cool 914-6 with fender flares, but doesn't really make it faster.

so it all boils down to what really is a GT and what is not really a GT.
most people agree that a real GT has race history, a hot motor, and the fender kit with associated bits and pieces.

I think the 16 or so GT's are pretty universally agreed upon.
but the remaining 200 fender kit cars are more debateable.

brant

[Eric_Shea]

I believe the factory acknowledged 41 cars in a past issue of Pano. This included some dealer built vehicles... not sure though. I'd have to dig up the issue and scan the list. But, I'm way too lazy to do that (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

(there's one here in UT BTW)

[GWN7]

I saw in an Excellence article there were 50 914-6 GTs. Is this the case? Did people in Europe get these cars and not race them?

my opinion.
part of the problem with this discussion/thread.. is "what constitutes a GT?"

there were I believe 200 fender kits produced.
they had to produce a certain number in order to legalized the option for their racing cars.

so does that mean 200 GT's existed
in my opinion no.
I don't think a fender kit constitues a real GT
a fender kit, makes it a cool 914-6 with fender flares, but doesn't really make it faster.

so it all boils down to what really is a GT and what is not really a GT.
most people agree that a real GT has race history, a hot motor, and the fender kit with associated bits and pieces.

I think the 16 or so GT's are pretty universally agreed upon.
but the remaining 200 fender kit cars are more debateable.

brant

I always thought it was GT kits that were produced. These included all the GT parts. All the parts were sometimes not put on the dealer preped cars. A member here posted a few years ago about finding some.....