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| scotty b |
 May 31 2006, 04:38 PM
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rust free you say ?  Group: Members Posts: 16,375 Joined: 7-January 05 From: richmond, Va. Member No.: 3,419 Region Association: None  |
If we are talking about "real" GT's wouldn't you also onclude the cable operated headlights and fixed roof in there or were those only for the FACTORY built GT's? If only the factory GT's had those parts then maybe we should have a GT Junior class (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Seriously though we have factory built Gt's...dealership built GT's .....and GT clones built aftermarket using factory parts correct? (not including modern day DIY GT's) Also curious about whether the dealership built cars were ever actually logged in as such or were they just built and sold as a "stock" 6 or even 4 for that matter (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Inquiring minds want to know........
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| brant |
May 31 2006, 04:45 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,925 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains 
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QUOTE I always thought it was GT kits that were produced. These included all the GT parts. All the parts were sometimes not put on the dealer preped cars. A member here posted a few years ago about finding some..... All of the parts may have been available seperately from the factory. and perhaps they agreed to produce 200 of each part. but Very few of the flared fender (even factory or dealer installed) cars have all of the parts. Most don't have the oil cooler or correct thermostat. some have flares without the correct balsa wood reinforced hoods. not many at all have all of the parts. I think fender flares are by far the most common of the parts to be actually found. brant |
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| Brad Roberts |
May 31 2006, 05:23 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
I'm betting it is a M471 car that is being raced. The 916's and M471's were the only 6's I know of that shipped with "leatherette" interiors.
Andy, you know what I'm thinking.. right.. a certain silver M471 is still sitting.. maybe I'll have the funds again one day...LOL B |
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| SirAndy |
May 31 2006, 06:12 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 42,169 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(Brad Roberts @ May 31 2006, 04:23 PM)  you know what I'm thinking.. right.. a certain silver M471 is still sitting.. maybe I'll have the funds again one day...LOL don't get me started on that car ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) btw. i have a solution for your /6 problem ... call me (IMG:style_emoticons/default/call me.gif) Andy |
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| GWN7 |
May 31 2006, 07:07 PM
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King of Road Trips Group: Members Posts: 6,280 Joined: 31-December 02 From: Winnipeg, MB, Canada Member No.: 56 Region Association: Northstar Region |
According to Glen Stazak their were 400 GT kits produced for dealers
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| John |
May 31 2006, 08:16 PM
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member? what's a member? Group: Members Posts: 3,393 Joined: 30-January 04 From: Evansville, IN (SIRPCA) Member No.: 1,615 Region Association: None |
QUOTE It was a white 914. it was about a year and a half ago, so it was before they repaved it. he was going down the main straight and he got air on the part where the dragstrip runs into the road course part, or at least thats what i think he said. As I recall, that was his first DE with the car. (and the first time with any of the Kansas City clubs) We warned him numerous times to be careful of Alpha Zero, but he ended up eating concrete instead. It was a freshly done car. I especially liked the BONDO in all the weld joints. The BONDO/Welds looked pretty until after the wreck when it became obvious that the welds were crap. The guy seemed nice enough. I doubt very much if another M471 or GT surfaces in this area that none of us know about. The last real M471 that we knew about here in KC was traded for a 308 and some cash several years ago. I believe that car is up north now. |
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| davep |
May 31 2006, 09:42 PM
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914 Historian Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,254 Joined: 13-October 03 From: Burford, ON, N0E 1A0 Member No.: 1,244 Region Association: Canada  |
There were factory produced cars in a variety of configurations. There were dealer produced cars in a wide variety of configurations. There were home built cars as well. In the truest sense, IMHO, a GT is a car that was built and run in the proper classification back in the early 1970's. There are lots of clones being made, and many run in competitions today. Due to the many classifications that the cars were run in you see a lot of variation. For example, IMSA mandated a fuel cell, so these cars did not get the 100 liter tank modifications. Many had no need for headlights of any sort. Some would run in open (spyder) configuration, others in closed form. Generally they would have started with a 2.0 engine with about 200hp. Later they moved up to the 2.5 liter GTU limit. Most would have some form of oil cooling, but with fuel cells crowding the front trunk, the 'usual' GT cooler was rare in the USA and Canada.
Don't forget that these cars were workhorse race cars. Banged up and readied for the next race. Log books were not mandatory or well annotated when used. As the rules changed, so did the cars. When they were no longer competative, they were dumped in favor of the the next hot ride. This was true even of the 917. |
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| Gustl |
May 31 2006, 10:46 PM
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914 enthusiast & historian Group: Members Posts: 11,778 Joined: 16-June 04 From: TIROL / Austria Member No.: 2,212 Region Association: Austria |
QUOTE(Brad Roberts @ Jun 1 2006, 01:23 AM) you know what I'm thinking.. right.. a certain silver M471 is still sitting.. maybe I'll have the funds again one day...LOL don't talk about this special car - this one is top secret (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool_shades.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Gustl |
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| Gustl |
May 31 2006, 10:50 PM
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914 enthusiast & historian Group: Members Posts: 11,778 Joined: 16-June 04 From: TIROL / Austria Member No.: 2,212 Region Association: Austria |
QUOTE(GWN7 @ Jun 1 2006, 03:07 AM) According to Glen Stazak their were 400 GT kits produced for dealers (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) this is an excerpt of the famous GT-list from the Porsche factory, dated 06/30/71 Attached image(s) 
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| Gustl |
May 31 2006, 10:56 PM
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914 enthusiast & historian Group: Members Posts: 11,778 Joined: 16-June 04 From: TIROL / Austria Member No.: 2,212 Region Association: Austria |
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| Brad Roberts |
Jun 1 2006, 01:30 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
Scary. You still have the pics!!
The car still has the original tires on it. Too bad he sold the engine and the trans!! B |
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| Gustl |
Jun 1 2006, 01:56 AM
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914 enthusiast & historian Group: Members Posts: 11,778 Joined: 16-June 04 From: TIROL / Austria Member No.: 2,212 Region Association: Austria |
QUOTE(Brad Roberts @ Jun 1 2006, 09:30 AM) Scary. You still have the pics!! sure ... I even have some background infos, but I had to promise not to share 'em ... sorry if only I had more money (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wavey.gif) Gustl |
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| RON S. |
Jun 1 2006, 05:00 AM
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9140430841, FINALLY RUNNING Group: Members Posts: 1,216 Joined: 22-May 03 From: WALTERBORO,S.C. Member No.: 724 Region Association: South East States |
QUOTE(Brad Roberts @ May 31 2006, 03:23 PM) I'm betting it is a M471 car that is being raced. The 916's and M471's were the only 6's I know of that shipped with "leatherette" interiors. B I dug up the COA on my car,last night.I clearly states that my car came delivered with a black "leatherette" Intereior. I know that my car is definately not a any kind of special -6r,but it is a European model. My quexchun is,what constitutes a leatherette interior?Anyone seen one complete and intact? When I got my car,the door panels were gone,but the seats,dash top & pad,and the backpad were in place.The material is definately not leather,but the feel and grain of the material is a lot smoother than the stuff I've seen on every other USA model -6. What gives,Ive wondered about this for some time. Ron |
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| gms |
Jun 1 2006, 08:12 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,717 Joined: 12-March 04 From: Chicagoland Member No.: 1,785 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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I have 2 entries in my database for 9140431066:
Panorama Nov & Dec 1989 Project car, great for autocross or tme trial, less eng, trans & bumpers, first $3500 takes it home Paul raced a 914-6 in IMSA (I think early 80s) but that serial number is accounted for. Paul Resnick PAR Porsche Specialists Tel: (914) 637 8800 Email: paul@parcars.com Hope this helps |
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| Brad Roberts |
Jun 1 2006, 10:09 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
Mr Stazak is ALIVE!!
Ok. What are you working on? B |
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| ChicagoPete |
Jun 1 2006, 11:20 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 227 Joined: 10-January 05 From: Lake Forest,IL Member No.: 3,427 |
Hey Glenn, Nice to see you here! I got my car delivered from Mark about 3 weeks ago...we have to get together this summer.
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| scotty b |
Jun 2 2006, 09:27 AM
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rust free you say ? Group: Members Posts: 16,375 Joined: 7-January 05 From: richmond, Va. Member No.: 3,419 Region Association: None |
If I may impart a little of my ignorance here. I believe "leatherette" is the European way of saying VINYL with a leather like stamping, it sound better than just calling it vinyl (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chairfall.gif) which is typical 914 interior; whereas the 471 option was actually leather. It also was a different door panel than the standard 914 and it somewhat resembled a 911 panel if I recall. George (fussy) Hussey (where's Michael Buffer when you need him?) has/had one that he had several pics of in an older catalog that clearly showed the different interior. Much nicer looking. I'm thinking about copying it in one of my cars...thinking (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)
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| scotty b |
Jun 2 2006, 09:54 AM
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rust free you say ? Group: Members Posts: 16,375 Joined: 7-January 05 From: richmond, Va. Member No.: 3,419 Region Association: None |
O.K. I found the catalog and took a pic. Article was on Hussy's car and was written by Brett Johnson so it is probably pretty acurate.
" But the rarest of all 914 derivitives produced were the 914/6GT, the 916 and the 916/6 with the M471 package." Article then goes on to describe the various changes between said models thenm states " Now, consider the following: total 1971 914/6 production was 443 cars; total 1972 production was 240 cars; and 1972 cars were not exported to this country. So what are the odds of findinga U.S> spec carwith the M471 option package?There are no factory records of the number producedbut there is at least one... Article also states that "At least three of the 916s had trendy "op-art" seat inserts although most seem to have leather. The firewall and third seat area were leather coverd as well as the dash top,shift boot even carpet edging. The car imported to the U.S. by Peter Gregg at BrumosPorsche in Florida even had leather coverd visors and headliner!" There is alot of other info in the article i won't get into such as an attempt at integrating the antenna into the windshield. Page 20-26 of the older AA catalog Attached image(s) 
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| scotty b |
Jun 2 2006, 09:57 AM
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rust free you say ? Group: Members Posts: 16,375 Joined: 7-January 05 From: richmond, Va. Member No.: 3,419 Region Association: None |
This catalog
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| davep |
Jun 2 2006, 10:16 AM
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914 Historian Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,254 Joined: 13-October 03 From: Burford, ON, N0E 1A0 Member No.: 1,244 Region Association: Canada |
QUOTE(scotty b @ Jun 2 2006, 07:54 AM) Article was on Hussy's car and was written by Brett Johnson so it is probably pretty acurate. total 1972 production was 240 cars; Pretty accurate maybe, but still in error. Especially when we have photos of 259 and 260. |
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