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> Live update (Sat) Andy's car/Cellete bench
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post Jul 23 2009, 04:15 PM
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Just had a conversation about celette benches and bent tubs so i thought i give this 3 year old thread a (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon_bump.gif) so the newbies can enjoy some rather disturbing images ...

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post Sep 30 2017, 01:13 PM
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post Sep 30 2017, 09:54 PM
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Glad you bumped this thread. I'd never seen it even though I had joined 6 mo's before the previous bump. My head was probably spinning just figuring out my dinky fuel problem. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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post Oct 4 2017, 11:52 AM
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Man, this made me happy/sad. Its good to see so many old friends and familiar faces. I miss the lot of you. Sad to see that some of the names on here have passed on too soon (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Oct 4 2017, 01:07 PM
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There is some good stuff in here. I'm preparing to sawzaw my longitudinal in a attempt to untwist my tub.
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post Oct 4 2017, 08:15 PM
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I was told that Celette scrapped the 914 fixtures. I hope what really happened is they got saved by someone and are still out there. My bench will accept the 914 fixtures.
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post Oct 5 2017, 06:32 AM
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I've talked to multiple employees at Celette and everyone has said that the fixtures are gone. So unless they're stuck in a corner of the warehouse and some forklift operator knows where, they're gone. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Oct 5 2017, 07:01 AM
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QUOTE(McMark @ Oct 5 2017, 07:32 AM) *

I've talked to multiple employees at Celette and everyone has said that the fixtures are gone. So unless they're stuck in a corner of the warehouse and some forklift operator knows where, they're gone. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)


(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Me Too. As far as I can tell they are gone.
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post Oct 5 2017, 11:09 AM
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QUOTE(McMark @ Oct 5 2017, 05:32 AM) *
I've talked to multiple employees at Celette and everyone has said that the fixtures are gone. So unless they're stuck in a corner of the warehouse and some forklift operator knows where, they're gone. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

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I knew we should have mode a copy of them last time we rented them ...
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post Oct 5 2017, 11:13 AM
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*Someone* has to have a set. They didn't vaporize. Hopefully they will surface so copies can be made. Certainly they could be reverse engineered though. Someone made the first set.
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post Oct 5 2017, 11:48 AM
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I would think the front fixtures were similar to a 911 so if that's true, there's just a couple needed for the back.
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post Oct 5 2017, 11:51 AM
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QUOTE(McMark @ Oct 5 2017, 06:32 AM) *

I've talked to multiple employees at Celette and everyone has said that the fixtures are gone. So unless they're stuck in a corner of the warehouse and some forklift operator knows where, they're gone. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)


That sucks... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) I know you have a huge investment in fixtures. Attached Image


Yes, they could be made with existing photos and today's CAD technology. Cost prohibitive? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Absolutely...
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post Oct 5 2017, 12:21 PM
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I have access to the CAD technology.....


Time is another thing.

What about Resto Design.
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post Oct 5 2017, 01:18 PM
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I know someone with a Celette bench. I will email him to see if he has the 914 fixtures. I (think) he told me he does have them, in a round about sort of way. He said my 74 was straight and that I saved thousands not having to put it on the bench. That statement somewhat indicates he has them. If he does, will he part with them, even temporarily? Who knows.

I just sent him an email. Let's see what he says...
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post Oct 5 2017, 03:03 PM
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QUOTE(gcrotvik @ Oct 5 2017, 12:18 PM) *

I know someone with a Celette bench. I will email him to see if he has the 914 fixtures. I (think) he told me he does have them, in a round about sort of way. He said my 74 was straight and that I saved thousands not having to but it on the bench. That statement somewhat indicates he has them. If he does, will he part with them, even temporarily? Who knows.

I just sent him an email. Let's see what he says...

That is a cruel tease Geoff (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)
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post Oct 5 2017, 04:45 PM
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McMark has the new design towers.

I was on the RD site and see they are selling the top fixtures for the new design towers for the 911.

http://www.restoration-design.com/store/product/911FIXTURE

These will fit the front of half of the 914.
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post Oct 5 2017, 06:28 PM
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QUOTE(McMark @ Oct 5 2017, 08:32 AM) *

I've talked to multiple employees at Celette and everyone has said that the fixtures are gone. So unless they're stuck in a corner of the warehouse and some forklift operator knows where, they're gone. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)



But build prints are bound to exist somewhere. . . When Celette rents fixtures, they check them for bends post rental so even that limited data would be helpful.

Celette has been in and out of bankruptcy ( 2008 ) and most recently the owners involved in some sort of business manipulation. https://www.bodyshopnews.net/index.php/arti...ankruptcy-again So it's likely that lots of other fixtures were scrapped as well.

However, Celette is a french company so there are bound to be fixtures in Europe somewhere.

In the USA

Rentals

Company : RELIABLE AUTOMOTIVE EQUIPMENT, INC.
Email : dave@rae1.com
Address :
58 LEONARDVILLE
BELFORD NJ 07718
Phone : 732-495-7900
Website : www.raeservice.com


Company : CELETTE North America
Email : contactus@celette-na.com
Address :
1142 North Main Street
LOMBARD IL 60148
Phone : 16303966100
Website : www.celette.com



Company : EUROCAR BENCH SYSTEMS
Email : frontoffice@eurocarbenchsystems.com
Address :
Caryl Ramos (800) 692 3900,
13710 Carmenita Road
SANTA FE SPRINGS CA 90670
Phone : 001 800 692 39 00

http://www.celettefixtures.net/rentalbank.html




QUOTE(altitude411 @ Oct 5 2017, 01:51 PM) *


That sucks... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) I know you have a huge investment in fixtures. Attached Image


Yes, they could be made with existing photos and today's CAD technology. Cost prohibitive? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Absolutely...



Others are remaking 911 fixtures so this isn't that difficult. If someone has access to a Faro arm or even carefully measures a "straight" tub they could be remade. The problem is the tubs are not built that consistent, I've seen 911 fixtures with slots on the mounting bases to allow for adjustment.

Those are " MZ " towers and very easy to replicate, the tops vary from model to model. There are dedicated fixtures that don't use the interchangeable tops, these are pictured at the top of this thread.

The bench in the beginning of this thread is a " MUF 7 " ( Not " Sevenne " )

Production body shop guys don't like these benches as they are a pain to set up and insurance companies unwilling to pay for fixture rental. Few shops buy fixtures outright as circa 1995 they were $ 5,000 a set per model. With modern measuring devices fixtures are less valuable.

Also, circa 1990, Blackhawk designed a system similar to Celette either by license or by copy. There is a small chance there is a 914 in Blackhawk world though I'd suspect Blackhawk won't be of much help given they both ended up in court. http://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appell.../975/868/163485

Check E bay, there are a few 911 fixture sets / benches and a Blackhawk bench with basic fixtures for $ 2,500 right now. One seller matias1963 has absolutely insane prices, he is wanting $ 2,500 for a Celete wall mounted _peg board_ without any tools and $ 900 for a rolling pegboard.
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post Oct 6 2017, 06:42 AM
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I believe Cary has a set, and he's making use of them.
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post Dec 22 2020, 01:37 PM
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It's been a while since i was on here, but since we had to dig out the Celette bench, why not? Here's our next repair. Attached Image
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post Dec 22 2020, 01:38 PM
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Insurance says go for it. Yikes!


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