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Timing Problem?, skipping teeth - how likely ? ? |
theman352001 |
Jun 23 2006, 09:23 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 16 Joined: 21-March 06 From: Wisconsin Member No.: 5,750 |
Hello members,
Well, I got the car running.....sort of. I tried starting it the other day and it seemed close. It also seemed like a car that had the timing just a little off. I had checked the timing before but thought I would experiment this time. Well, I adjusted the dist. while my dad tried to start the car. After a turn of about 15 degrees, the car started. Throttle response was poor and sounded like the car was getting a bit too much fuel and choking out. I could rev it up though so I was hopefull. I got the car ready to go for a little trip and she ran fine to the end of the driveway (about 50 yards). But as soon as I got on the road, she bogged down and died. I tried starting it again and got nothing. It just turned over with no hint of firing. So this has got me wondering if it is possible for the dist. gear to slip on the crankshaft. Any other thougths? Keith |
SLITS |
Jun 23 2006, 10:34 PM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None |
Fuel System - Carb, Carbs, D-Jet or L-Jet?
How long has it been since it ran last? Is the fuel old? Condition of plugs, points, cap, rotor, wires? Only way I know of, other than severe wear or breakage, would be the distributor being loose and the distributor drive gear climbing pushing the dizzy up till the drive gear climbed off the crank gear. |
Rand |
Jun 23 2006, 10:47 PM
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Cross Member Group: Members Posts: 7,409 Joined: 8-February 05 From: OR Member No.: 3,573 Region Association: None |
If the distributor is bolted down properly, it ain't gonna skip a tooth. If it didn't die suddenly, but bogged, then I would be looking at the fuel delivery. Does the pump run?
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Mark Henry |
Jun 23 2006, 11:03 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
There is no way a dizzy will skip a tooth, unless it's unbolted and popped right out of the hole.
Or I guess if the bolt fell off and the car has the "Men in Black" mod and you're doing warp 5, upside down in the Holland tunnel.... |
Bartlett 914 |
Jun 24 2006, 07:20 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,218 Joined: 30-August 05 From: South Elgin IL Member No.: 4,707 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Keith
On Dans thread about his exhaust a coment was made about the muffler becoming restricted. This is something I had not thought about. How long was your car sitting. Could your exhaust be plugged. Rust, small animal etc. Mark |
Thack |
Jun 24 2006, 10:39 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 283 Joined: 1-June 05 From: Houston, Tx Member No.: 4,182 |
Did you pull out the distributor drive shaft? Could have installed it a tooth off.
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Bleyseng |
Jun 24 2006, 10:47 AM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,036 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Hello members, Well, I got the car running.....sort of. I tried starting it the other day and it seemed close. It also seemed like a car that had the timing just a little off. I had checked the timing before but thought I would experiment this time. Well, I adjusted the dist. while my dad tried to start the car. After a turn of about 15 degrees, the car started. Throttle response was poor and sounded like the car was getting a bit too much fuel and choking out. I could rev it up though so I was hopefull. I got the car ready to go for a little trip and she ran fine to the end of the driveway (about 50 yards). But as soon as I got on the road, she bogged down and died. I tried starting it again and got nothing. It just turned over with no hint of firing. So this has got me wondering if it is possible for the dist. gear to slip on the crankshaft. Any other thougths? Keith Sounds like its just mistimed...static it time it by setting it to #1 TDC. Hook up a VOM (voltohmmeter) the + to the dizzy side. Turn the dizzy slowly until it just snaps or the power goes to 12 Volts on the VOM. Lightly tighten the dizzy clamp and start the motor as it should be now close. Now use a timing lite to set the timing at 27 degrees BTDC @ 3500rpms poking the lite thru the access hole and watching the red mark line up in the Vnotch. Loosen the dizzy clamp to rotate the dizzy to line up the red mark at 3500rpms (your dad can hold it there for you). Tighten the clamp and drive it. If this don't do it somethin else is wrong so report back. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) |
theman352001 |
Jun 25 2006, 09:43 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 16 Joined: 21-March 06 From: Wisconsin Member No.: 5,750 |
Thanks for the input guys.
Here is my thread on what I have done to the car. Previous thread I have drained the gas and put in new. The plugs are relatively new but they are black in color. Checking the muffler may be a good idea because the car has been sitting in a storage building for 2 years. This would not explain the original problem however. I will have a chance to look at the car more on Monday so I will try some things and get back to you. Keith |
Bleyseng |
Jun 25 2006, 02:12 PM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,036 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
CHT problem or test the MPS with a proper vacuum gauge. Pump it to 15hg and it should hold for 5 minutes. Sucking on it does nothing as you can't suck hard enough unless you are Superman.
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Mark Henry |
Jun 25 2006, 05:20 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
Sucking on it does nothing as you can't suck hard enough unless you are Superman. I don't know...I had a girlfriend who could suck a hardball through 50ft of garden hose. I never thought about putting a gauge on her...... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rocking nana.gif) |
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