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> Show me your front oil cooler..., ...running through the fog light grills
Aaron Cox
post Jul 14 2006, 06:06 PM
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james, i already said i was biased against the trunk mount coolers....

its all good.

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post Jul 14 2006, 06:12 PM
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QUOTE(lapuwali @ Jul 14 2006, 04:58 PM) *


Actually, the under the rear trunk mounted cooler IS still an option, no matter what Aaron says. You have no external cooler now, and your oil temps are, MOST OF THE TIME, just fine. You only need extra cooling capacity under duress. Aaron has absolutely no data on how much cooling a 2.2S really needs under track conditions at Thunderhill in August, so he's talking out his ass when he says the under trunk option isn't good enough. He has no way of knowing, he's just guessing.

Rich Johnson lives in Texas. It's a LOT hotter in Texas in the summer than it is in the Bay Area at any time of year. Rich Johnson has a warmed over 3.0, which generates more power (and thus heat) than a 2.2S does. The under trunk option works for him. It MIGHT work for you (there's no telling without trying it). It won't touch your front trunk at all. It's substantially easier to fabricate than the under the headlight approach. It's PROVEN to be adequate on a more powerful engine in hotter ambient temps.


Is Rich Johnson's car a track car using the under the trunk fan design?

I do like unobtrusive simple designs...

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post Jul 14 2006, 06:16 PM
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I suggested the rear cooler with a fan as well. It could be made to work. It's a 2.2S, not 3.8.

Remember, I'm the guy who did the 'impossible' by fitting 225s on the back of a narrow bodied car, I'm pretty sure I could set up a very functional oil cooler in the back of a 2.2. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)
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post Jul 14 2006, 06:19 PM
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QUOTE(Series9 @ Jul 14 2006, 05:16 PM) *

I suggested the rear cooler with a fan as well. It could be made to work. It's a 2.2S, not 3.8.

Remember, I'm the guy who did the 'impossible' by fitting 225s on the back of a narrow bodied car, I'm pretty sure I could set up a very functional oil cooler in the back of a 2.2. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)


Come and get her and do it for me Joe (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)

or at least give me a parts list (vendors, manufacturers, model #'s) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Jul 14 2006, 06:22 PM
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QUOTE(GTeener @ Jul 14 2006, 06:19 PM) *

QUOTE(Series9 @ Jul 14 2006, 05:16 PM) *

I suggested the rear cooler with a fan as well. It could be made to work. It's a 2.2S, not 3.8.

Remember, I'm the guy who did the 'impossible' by fitting 225s on the back of a narrow bodied car, I'm pretty sure I could set up a very functional oil cooler in the back of a 2.2. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)


Come and get her and do it for me Joe (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)

or at least give me a parts list (vendors, manufacturers, model #'s) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)



Fine. Take detailed pictures of the underside of your engine bay and under your trunk.

I'll set it up and intall it on Friday at the RRC.

Cost is $500 + parts.
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post Jul 14 2006, 06:27 PM
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post Jul 14 2006, 06:29 PM
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QUOTE(Cap'n Krusty @ Jul 14 2006, 04:16 PM) *


If you want a REALLY EXPERIENCED opinion, call Otto. 310 399 3221 Trust me, you WILL get an opinion, LOL.



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post Jul 14 2006, 07:33 PM
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QUOTE(drew365 @ Jul 14 2006, 05:29 PM) *

QUOTE(Cap'n Krusty @ Jul 14 2006, 04:16 PM) *


If you want a REALLY EXPERIENCED opinion, call Otto. 310 399 3221 Trust me, you WILL get an opinion, LOL.



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post Jul 14 2006, 07:41 PM
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QUOTE(Aaron Cox @ Jul 14 2006, 05:06 PM) *

james, i already said i was biased against the trunk mount coolers....

its all good.

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Bias is fine, as long as you don't let it completely blind you. The perfect is the enemy of the good, and all that...

I hope someone does do the under the headlights thing, as I think it's an interesting solution that would be more than adequate for even a pretty hot engine. I don't think it's a good solution for Gwen, though.
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post Jul 14 2006, 08:14 PM
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For the record, I like my set-up. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)
The bottom line is this: 111 degrees at Thunderhill's got nothing on me.


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post Jul 14 2006, 09:34 PM
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QUOTE(trekkor @ Jul 14 2006, 07:14 PM) *

For the record, I like my set-up. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)
The bottom line is this: 111 degrees at Thunderhill's got nothing on me.


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post Jul 14 2006, 10:25 PM
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A few posts back someone mentioned adding steel mesh to re-enforce openings. I did this on my oil cooler outlets and it made an incredible difference in structural rigidity. When I cut the holes the surrounding sheetmetal became very unstable and would "oil can" very easily. I welded in some grill work liberated from an extra engine grill and it is now solid as a rock. Just thought I'd echo that it make a big diff.


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post Jul 14 2006, 11:18 PM
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East coaster, that is hot (in the Paris Hilton sense). I really like the job you did there. Even the grill you welded in is 914-correct (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumb3d.gif)
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post Jul 15 2006, 07:24 AM
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QUOTE(jonwatts @ Jul 14 2006, 09:18 PM) *

East coaster, that is hot (in the Paris Hilton sense). I really like the job you did there. Even the grill you welded in is 914-correct (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumb3d.gif)


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East-coaster's oil cooler installation is one of the nicest I've seen. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif)

The other award goes to Brant for his super "twin oil coolers mounted in the head light buckets" installation. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif)

Gentlemen, congratulations. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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QUOTE(Series9 @ Jul 14 2006, 05:22 PM) *

QUOTE(GTeener @ Jul 14 2006, 06:19 PM) *

QUOTE(Series9 @ Jul 14 2006, 05:16 PM) *

I suggested the rear cooler with a fan as well. It could be made to work. It's a 2.2S, not 3.8.

Remember, I'm the guy who did the 'impossible' by fitting 225s on the back of a narrow bodied car, I'm pretty sure I could set up a very functional oil cooler in the back of a 2.2. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)


Come and get her and do it for me Joe (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)

or at least give me a parts list (vendors, manufacturers, model #'s) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)



Fine. Take detailed pictures of the underside of your engine bay and under your trunk.

I'll set it up and intall it on Friday at the RRC.

Cost is $500 + parts.


I'm good with that offer Joe. Thanks (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mrs.K.gif)

Now to get to the RRC...
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Any idea how much cooling (approx. reduction in temp) this design will provide?

Joe,

How much do you think parts will cost for the under car with fan?
Would it be better if I bought and brought the parts?

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post Jul 17 2006, 10:12 AM
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Probably around $600 in parts.
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600 for a rear cooler?

must be a fluidyne cooler then....
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I'm thinking about $250 for the cooler, $100 for the thermostat and $250 in lines and fittings.
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What happens if it doesn't cool enough?

What if the fan can't generate enough cool air from under the car at 60+ MPH?
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