No horn, I changed the switches in the column |
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No horn, I changed the switches in the column |
Stieve |
Jul 21 2006, 11:47 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 587 Joined: 6-May 06 From: Sacramento Member No.: 5,996 |
I bought a set of 924 switches, and am almost done with the converesion, except for hooking the brown to ground and the hot to the pump then grounding the pump. I couldn't refuse adding the trun signal, because mine was disfunctional, ok it was broke. I added the Dino wheel, replaced the crush sleeve, and hooked up yhe button, and now nothing.
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Dave_Darling |
Jul 21 2006, 12:37 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 15,048 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
When you ground the wire that goes to the button, does the horn sound? The ignition must be on for this test.
If so, then you need to figure out why the wire isn't getting grounded when you push the button. If not, then you need to check further "downstream" at the horn relay (on 74+ cars) or at the horn itself. --DD |
Toast |
Jul 21 2006, 01:32 PM
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Not bad for carrying sway bars. Group: Members Posts: 3,380 Joined: 20-January 04 From: Las Vegas Member No.: 1,580 Region Association: Southwest Region |
make sure a wire isn't pinched or has not been cut/damaged on the steering wheel.
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Stieve |
Jul 21 2006, 01:55 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 587 Joined: 6-May 06 From: Sacramento Member No.: 5,996 |
I have a Dino wheel, so no problem with the wire, all self contained. If I wull off the wheel do I ground the brass horn tab to the steering shaft or just depess it to check?
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lapuwali |
Jul 21 2006, 02:00 PM
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Not another one! Group: Benefactors Posts: 4,526 Joined: 1-March 04 From: San Mateo, CA Member No.: 1,743 |
Self-contained? How is the horn connected to the horn button, then? Magic? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
The horn wire has to be connected to the horn button somehow. That wire is on the ground side of the horn relay. The power side is permanently hooked up. When you press the button, the ground wire gets connected to the steering column, which is itself grounded. This completes the circuit and you get an earful of noise. |
Stieve |
Jul 21 2006, 02:57 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 587 Joined: 6-May 06 From: Sacramento Member No.: 5,996 |
OK, Fixed it, when I said sel contained, the wire to the button is contained in the wheel so no pinching will occur. I noticed when I pulled the wheel off the upper left screw had broke the plastic around it , I compared the 924 switch to the 914 exactly the same, except foe the wash wires. I left the upper screw out, tested with wheel off, and worked. put wheel on, didn't work, pulled wheel off, and rebent the contact on the switch to make contact with the contact area on the bottom of wheel. It now works, I didn't think anything about the upper left screw, making contact with the metal. Problem solved.
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So.Cal.914 |
Jul 21 2006, 02:58 PM
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"...And it has a front trunk too." Group: Members Posts: 6,588 Joined: 15-February 04 From: Low Desert, CA./ Hills of N.J. Member No.: 1,658 Region Association: None |
Self-contained? How is the horn connected to the horn button, then? Magic? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) The horn wire has to be connected to the horn button somehow. That wire is on the ground side of the horn relay. The power side is permanently hooked up. When you press the button, the ground wire gets connected to the steering column, which is itself grounded. This completes the circuit and you get an earful of noise. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) |
scottb |
Jul 21 2006, 07:01 PM
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who wants a PEZ?! Group: Members Posts: 1,993 Joined: 27-December 02 From: south-(not north)-wick, MA Member No.: 32 Region Association: North East States |
OK, Fixed it, when I said sel contained, the wire to the button is contained in the wheel so no pinching will occur. I noticed when I pulled the wheel off the upper left screw had broke the plastic around it , I compared the 924 switch to the 914 exactly the same, except foe the wash wires. I left the upper screw out, tested with wheel off, and worked. put wheel on, didn't work, pulled wheel off, and rebent the contact on the switch to make contact with the contact area on the bottom of wheel. It now works, I didn't think anything about the upper left screw, making contact with the metal. Problem solved. come over and fix my horn now. i have a dino wheel as well. there is beer in the fridge! |
Stieve |
Jul 21 2006, 08:20 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 587 Joined: 6-May 06 From: Sacramento Member No.: 5,996 |
OK, Fixed it, when I said sel contained, the wire to the button is contained in the wheel so no pinching will occur. I noticed when I pulled the wheel off the upper left screw had broke the plastic around it , I compared the 924 switch to the 914 exactly the same, except foe the wash wires. I left the upper screw out, tested with wheel off, and worked. put wheel on, didn't work, pulled wheel off, and rebent the contact on the switch to make contact with the contact area on the bottom of wheel. It now works, I didn't think anything about the upper left screw, making contact with the metal. Problem solved. come over and fix my horn now. i have a dino wheel as well. there is beer in the fridge! Did your horn work before you changed? I noticed I needed to rebend the conact on the switch to make contact with it, since there is more of a gap between them, the wheel only seats down to the "C" clip on the shaft, which is good otherwise you would be activating the switches. Where are you? If you near me not a problem. My next thing is the drivers door switch and adding an under dash light. |
scottb |
Jul 21 2006, 08:28 PM
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who wants a PEZ?! Group: Members Posts: 1,993 Joined: 27-December 02 From: south-(not north)-wick, MA Member No.: 32 Region Association: North East States |
my car came to me with the dino wheel...
one day on the way to the denist, the horn decided it needed to awaken on its own. i turned the car off, disconnected the horns, and went on my way. when i reconnected the horns.... nuthin. no matter how i have swapped wiring, no sound shall rise from the cones.... |
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