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Got boost?, Here are THE heads!! |
Jake Raby |
Aug 16 2006, 11:10 PM
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Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,398 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
For you, Britain... We'll be talking more about these on 4th Dimension Radio tonight (Thursday 17 August)!!!www.aircooledtechnology.com/radio Listen in for more info!! Here they are! Len has done a TON of work on these heads and they have even more flow potential left in them! These are 42X40 with the new "Turbo seal" exhaust port and matching stainless steel stubbies. This unique port was adopted from the Mighty Spyder project and it works like crazy!! BTW-We WILL be working with these heads on several N/A engines as well, of course with different chamber shapes and port flow margins. This would be an awesome head for 2.4-2.6L daily driver engine that needs serious grunt!! I told you that 2006 was going to be a serious Turbo development year!! Its not over yet!!! (IMG:http://www.aircooledtechnology.com/galleries/turboheads/Misc%20040.jpg) (IMG:http://www.aircooledtechnology.com/galleries/turboheads/Misc%20039.jpg) (IMG:http://www.aircooledtechnology.com/galleries/turboheads/Misc%20033.jpg) (IMG:http://www.aircooledtechnology.com/galleries/turboheads/Misc%20043.jpg) (IMG:http://www.aircooledtechnology.com/galleries/turboheads/Misc%20048.jpg) Kudos to Len- AGAIN!!!! The bar just got raised higher. BTW- twin plugging is optional! |
McMark |
Aug 16 2006, 11:38 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
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That exhaust is HUGE! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) |
Jake Raby |
Aug 16 2006, 11:51 PM
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Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,398 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
You should see the flow numbers.....
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So.Cal.914 |
Aug 17 2006, 12:25 AM
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"...And it has a front trunk too." Group: Members Posts: 6,588 Joined: 15-February 04 From: Low Desert, CA./ Hills of N.J. Member No.: 1,658 Region Association: None |
After I ported mine I heard that you can weld that area around the exhaust port
to give room to enlarge the port. Any truth? |
Jake Raby |
Aug 17 2006, 12:36 AM
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Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,398 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
You'd be suprised at what works and what looks like it would work but doesn't..
We have seen heads with huge ports that didn't flow as well as stock and had grossly worse air speed- thus making less power and being a bitch to drive. Its not the size of the port, its the shape and the size and the portions of the port that are worked the most. These prototypes of the LE 220 have about 4 solid months in their design.. Its a matter of trial and error with silicone pours being made along the way to model the port and see deficiencies.. Bigger isn't better especially if you sacrifice velocity in the process. |
Twystd1 |
Aug 17 2006, 04:27 AM
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You don't want to know... really..... Group: Members Posts: 2,514 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Newport Beach, California Member No.: 2,743 |
It just ain't fair.... Len (or you?) posted the CFM graphs over at STF. a while back....
Numbers don't lie... With roller lifters and the cam profiles that can be used with roller lifters.... And a set of Lens roller rockers..... and...... and........... Hell Jake..... Bring on the turbo pics so I can just finish the wet dream............ Twystd1 |
ptravnic |
Aug 17 2006, 07:13 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,231 Joined: 27-May 03 From: Chicago, IL Member No.: 747 Region Association: None |
I've had 6 conversion lust for 15 years but after seeing the improvements you've made over the last 2 or 3yrs w/these engines I'm starting to lean toward a RAT powered drop in...
Hmmmmmm........ Nice work Jake. I'm looking forward to seeing some of the applications. -pt |
Jake Raby |
Aug 17 2006, 07:23 AM
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Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,398 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
Twystd1, email me - I have a shroud for ya but keep forgetting to ship it!!
Len doesn't have roller rockers, they are something the LN Engineering and myself are working to create and do the right way to compliment my roller lifter program. The 914 Turbo kit is shoved under the bench where it will remain, but when you see the other kits I'm working on for conversion applications you will die! Right now all of them are in developmental stages and look very hacked up- the production models will be a different story. I have an engine in the works that gets every trick in the book and should make well over 600HP at the flywheel for a street driven, tube chassied, air conditioned Beetle application! ptravinic, Thanks for the compliments- we all bust our asses for results, in the past two years we have made the biggest headway ever with the best results than ever before! |
ChrisFoley |
Aug 17 2006, 08:08 AM
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I am Tangerine Racing Group: Members Posts: 7,958 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Bolton, CT Member No.: 209 Region Association: None |
Those cylinder heads are incredible!
The work Len did to shorten and straighten both intake and exhaust flow paths, combined with the increased crossection and bigger valves makes huge flow #s possible. I need to make a bigger header! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
Jake Raby |
Aug 17 2006, 08:13 AM
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Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,398 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
Those cylinder heads are incredible! The work Len did to shorten and straighten both intake and exhaust flow paths, combined with the increased crossection and bigger valves makes huge flow #s possible. I need to make a bigger header! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Yep- at least 1-7/8"... I'd like to try a 2" as wel... |
Chris Pincetich |
Aug 17 2006, 10:32 AM
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B-) Group: Members Posts: 2,082 Joined: 3-October 05 From: Point Reyes Station, CA Member No.: 4,907 Region Association: Northern California |
twin plug turbo TIV (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif)
Jake, do you need your house painted? Let's make a deal. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
Jake Raby |
Aug 17 2006, 11:31 AM
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Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,398 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
twin plug turbo TIV (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif) Jake, do you need your house painted? Let's make a deal. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) You'd have to paint my rental property, every building on my shop compound and agree to cut 26 acres of grass for the next 20 years and then we might talk!! |
Aaron Cox |
Aug 17 2006, 11:36 AM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
jake, looks killer!!!
with all the work len has to do to each head, would it be more time/cost effective to cast up new heads with these characteristics built in? |
Jake Raby |
Aug 17 2006, 11:45 AM
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Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,398 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
jake, looks killer!!! with all the work len has to do to each head, would it be more time/cost effective to cast up new heads with these characteristics built in? These will be a CNC offering faster than you can blink an eye! If we made a completely new head the cost of each unit would double due to recouping R&D expenses.. To digitize an offering a had ported perfect version must be completed, this is that unit.. Listen to the radio show tonight for more info! |
Brad Roberts |
Aug 17 2006, 01:17 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
Interesting!!
The ports look a LOT like a Big Block Chevy!! B |
Britain Smith |
Aug 17 2006, 02:16 PM
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Nano Member Group: Members Posts: 2,354 Joined: 27-February 03 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 364 |
Those look sweet! In addition, I don't see any issues with adapting those into my engine as they use the same intake manifolds and the stubbies. Is that the phenolic spacer that you were referring too? Will you need to sandwitch it with two intake gaskets for sealing or not?
-Britain |
Brett W |
Aug 17 2006, 05:38 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,858 Joined: 17-September 03 From: huntsville, al Member No.: 1,169 Region Association: None |
Any problems with heads flexing under high boost applications? That was always one of the problems with the stock T4 head. Flex under boost.
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Jake Raby |
Aug 17 2006, 06:17 PM
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Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,398 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
Any problems with heads flexing under high boost applications? That was always one of the problems with the stock T4 head. Flex under boost. Not with smaller bores.. Our largest Turbo bore is 98mm as more simply isn't needed- reasons like this is why I am forcing failures to come up with some general rules... Big bores are where problems begin, even with N/A.. My primary Turbo bore will be 91mm.. Britain, The gaskets are the same material as those, we have them for all of our intake ports as well as for each intake to carb/Throttle body mount... They KILL heat transfer, especially if used at the cylinder head and at the carb sealing surface.. |
Brett W |
Aug 17 2006, 08:14 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,858 Joined: 17-September 03 From: huntsville, al Member No.: 1,169 Region Association: None |
makes sense.
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Aaron Cox |
Aug 17 2006, 11:22 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
dude. keep on fighting at the R/D front.
we love it man. AA |
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