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| bd1308 |
 Oct 17 2006, 05:57 PM
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Sir Post-a-lot  Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501  |
Cost effective?
You call $550 (a steal at that) price effective for a new set of heads on a old engine? Oh and these 550 buck rebuilds are also based on thirty year old cores. So why market something you feel isnt adequate? |
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| Jake Raby |
Oct 17 2006, 06:04 PM
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Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,398 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
They are Len's product- not mine.... I do not rebuild or utilize rebuilt heads on my engines.
I'll stop right here, this isn't going to benefit anyone any further because you already have your mind made up and its clear that it'll take a failure to change it. Do as you wish, keep it cool and keep your fingers crossed that Klaus gave your seats a tad more crush than the rest.. |
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| bd1308 |
Oct 17 2006, 06:05 PM
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Sir Post-a-lot Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501 |
OK. Here's what I want to do:
New seats and guides on cores. I'm getting $240 per Len's pricelist and then guides: it says $20 per pair...so i'm guessing its $40 for both heads? or $80 since I have four pairs of guides on the heads? |
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| Jake Raby |
Oct 17 2006, 06:11 PM
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Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,398 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
everything is priced per pair..
When seats are instaled the guides must be installed as well, its part of the job.. At minimum do seats, guides and 4 new exhaust valves... |
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| Allan |
Oct 17 2006, 06:17 PM
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Teenerless Weenie Group: Members Posts: 8,373 Joined: 5-July 04 From: Western Mesopotamia Member No.: 2,304 Region Association: Southern California |
GO Britt!!!!!!!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumb3d.gif)
Um, maybe I was thinking about Ron? Anyway, GO Britt!!!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumb3d.gif) |
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| bd1308 |
Oct 17 2006, 06:24 PM
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Sir Post-a-lot Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501 |
i'm getting $320 for what I believe to be the correct allotment of unti prices on *BOTH* heads, MINUS valves.
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| 914werke |
Oct 17 2006, 06:29 PM
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"I got blisters on me fingers" Group: Members Posts: 11,050 Joined: 22-March 03 From: USofA Member No.: 453 Region Association: Pacific Northwest 
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| Jake Raby |
Oct 17 2006, 06:29 PM
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Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,398 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
sounds right.. Calll him and go over it.
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| anthony |
Oct 17 2006, 06:36 PM
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2270 club Group: Benefactors Posts: 3,107 Joined: 1-February 03 From: SF Bay Area, CA Member No.: 218  |
FWIW, Len posted the other day that he is offering 914 club members an extra 10% off.
Personally, I wouldn't put any money into 1.7L heads. Get some 1.8L or 2L heads and build up a nice 1911 or 2056. Sure it will cost more but then you'll have a potent little engine that is good for the long haul. |
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| Jake Raby |
Oct 17 2006, 06:46 PM
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Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,398 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
FWIW 1.7 heads are generally the best cores...
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| bd1308 |
Oct 17 2006, 06:48 PM
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Sir Post-a-lot Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501 |
he's already gone for the day i assume?
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| Gary# |
Oct 17 2006, 06:52 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 217 Joined: 15-May 05 From: Buena Park, Ca. Member No.: 4,078 |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) This is one of the best threads i've read in a while (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
I've got a set of used 30 yr old heads 2.ohh's in the garage that i think need a little steel wool 2 clean some carbon & look pretty to bolt on & go. --- Next time my wife's going to be gone long enough for me to get the oven up to 400F - i'm gonna set them in there very gently & see what falls out... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool_shades.gif) Thx Jake!! & thx Britt - (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) Attached image(s) 
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| Jake Raby |
Oct 17 2006, 07:01 PM
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Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,398 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
Try it.. I'll say you'll lose at least one. It does stink the house up though..
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| bd1308 |
Oct 17 2006, 07:02 PM
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Sir Post-a-lot Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501 |
Jake, you say the 9550 on *STOCK* crappy heads makes the temp 325F at speed?
Thats below 400F in my book.... |
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| Bleyseng |
Oct 17 2006, 07:24 PM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,036 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
That should be about right, Britt.
Why don't you just plain up the valve size to 42x36?? You want lower exhaust temps so the larger exhaust valve will help exhaust more exhaust. much mo'better. Can't find the dumb pic of my stock 2.0L pic of a dropped intake seat thru the intake port, sideways. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumb3d.gif) |
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| bd1308 |
Oct 17 2006, 07:27 PM
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Sir Post-a-lot Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501 |
its all about money geoff.
it just seems like the stock method should still last 100k like it did in the 70s. I mean have temperatures increased since 74? |
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| bd1308 |
Oct 17 2006, 07:34 PM
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Sir Post-a-lot Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501 |
Hey, everything else aside, I'm not pissed off. I'm just scratching my head wondering why the things that worked in the 70s dont work now.
I mean I'd like to drive without worrying about head temps, and maybe Jake is right, but i'm just a hard headed SOB. |
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| McMark |
Oct 17 2006, 07:34 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
There is a reason that the Type IV has a reputation far and wide for dropping valve seats. Because it was really really common on stock engines with stock heads.
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| bd1308 |
Oct 17 2006, 07:41 PM
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Sir Post-a-lot Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501 |
Mark, thats the main reason for my post. I havent really heard much about dropped valve seats, mostly from busses and from 2.0 914s.
But then again, most people dont drive VWs enough to experience this. Again, i'm being hard-headed here. But am seeing why its important to spend some and get some nice heads done. For now though, I will build teh 1.7L I have and build a nice camper engine for my bus. |
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| Bleyseng |
Oct 17 2006, 07:45 PM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,036 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I was only suggesting to not cheap out and try to do it so the motor works as best as you can afford. Who knows how long this motor will have to last you so later you won't be kicking yourself. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/alfred.gif) BTDT
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