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> Replacement fuse box, Would you buy one?
Would you pay ~$130 for a plug-in fuse box upgrade with modern fuses?
Would you pay ~$130 for a plug-in fuse box upgrade with modern fuses?
Yes, right away, I hate cleaning my fuses every week! [ 20 ] ** [24.69%]
Yes, I'd put it on my things to get eventually list. [ 46 ] ** [56.79%]
No, it's really not worth that much money to me. [ 15 ] ** [18.52%]
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JWest
post Nov 6 2003, 08:26 AM
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I've got another new item I can offer if there is enough interest - a replacement fuse panel for under the dash.

It would have 15 ATO (modern blade-type) fuses with a strong plastic cover, labels, and fit in the original spot.

Two holes would need to be drilled in the removable panel that the orginal fuse box mounts on, and the original wiring will all plug in (you can go back to the original with no modifications). No cutting of wires required.

There are three extra fuses (stock is 12), probably to be supplied as one "30" (battery power) one "15" (key switched) and one left open for any use.

Unfortunately the fuse blocks to make this happen are NOT cheap, so the price for the whole unit would have to be in the $130 range.

What do you think? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) Comments welcome! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chatsmiley.gif)
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post Nov 6 2003, 08:44 PM
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The only issue that I have with mine is I kick the damn thing when I get in the teen.

Was going to make some kind of better cover.
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post Nov 6 2003, 08:49 PM
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Take your big clown shoes off.....

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YOU HAVE A COVER!?

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post Nov 6 2003, 08:57 PM
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If it could be done witout hacking the wiring I would buy one. The factory fuse panel & fuse holders are a joke compared to modern cars.
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post Nov 6 2003, 09:07 PM
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I would buy one in a heartbeat. Hate those dinosaur type fuses. Your system sounds like the perfect upgrade for the electrical that I've been looking for. Hope you get enough buyers to make a good run of them.

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post Nov 6 2003, 09:15 PM
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QUOTE(redshift @ Nov 6 2003, 06:49 PM)
Take your big clown shoes off.....

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

YOU HAVE A COVER!?

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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/stfu.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) I'm a size 10 shoe, I know we have members with bigger feet.

Ya, I have a broken cover (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)
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post Nov 6 2003, 09:22 PM
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QUOTE(redshift @ Nov 6 2003, 06:49 PM)

YOU HAVE A COVER!?


No kidding. What's that like? Mine lives in the glove box.
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post Nov 6 2003, 09:28 PM
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I've been looking for parts to build just such a thing so if you can make one I'll go for it as soon as it's available. I've wanted this for a long time, but as long as the old one works it hasn't been my top priority to actually find the stuff to build one.
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post Nov 6 2003, 09:33 PM
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If it could be done witout hacking the wiring I would buy one


Ditto

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post Nov 6 2003, 10:20 PM
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Sounds cheap to me. But, I also just replaced the whole relay board just to get rid of those sloppy junction plugs. I like the GM weather shield connectors much better. I'd be happy to trash the fuse box also. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) Please keep me up to date on this. This is a great deal!!!!
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post Nov 6 2003, 11:05 PM
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Ha ha.. I went over this with Painless Wiring in 1995.

I could sell them.. but I really dont see a need in them. I have NO problems with the stock setup (even when installing nice 3.2's and 3.6's)


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post Nov 7 2003, 04:07 AM
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In a heartbeat....especially now at this stage of my project....just add me to the list... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
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post Nov 7 2003, 08:12 AM
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QUOTE(Brad Roberts @ Nov 6 2003, 09:05 PM)
Ha ha.. I went over this with Painless Wiring in 1995.

I could sell them.. but I really dont see a need in them. I have NO problems with the stock setup (even when installing nice 3.2's and 3.6's)


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Brad, the main drivers for this change are:

-lack of a decent cover (they always break and most people don't have one)

-the fact that you can hit the fuses with your foot getting in (if you drive a 914 long enough I think you will do it eventually even if you have small feet) and either break the cover or fling the fuses across the car. That's especially fun at night! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

- the stupid original fuses have such small contact area and are prone to corrosion (especially when the aformentioned cover is gone)

There centainly is no performance issue or problem with a clean original fuse box (I have no idea how a 3.6 would need a different fuse box anyway) but in day-to-day use there are some real reliability issues.

BTW, Painless is about 3 miles from my work. I wish I could use the cheap individual fuse panels they sell, but there is no way they will fit in a 914 without mods that most people would not do. They sell ready-to-go 18 circuit panels for $170, but they are GM based and would not interface with a stock 914 worth a crap.
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post Nov 7 2003, 02:06 PM
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I agree with all the problems mentioned above. I wear size 10.5.. I kick them out and break covers.

It would have to be plug and play. Something any owner could install using the original wiring with the female spades in place.

Can this be made so it fits in the same area with the same style of plate in the same bolt holes with the same phillips head screws ??


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post Nov 7 2003, 02:18 PM
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I guess I kick mine, but I get in and out of mine so fast I dont know, I am glad I have a smaller wheel though.. 13 shoe..
I would put it in my things to buy list. I think 2nd on my list is your shifter, second only to new tires... Third is a new engine... (I guess my list goes by price huh?!)
It would probably be about 20th on my list.. but its on there..


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post Nov 7 2003, 02:37 PM
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QUOTE(Brad Roberts @ Nov 7 2003, 12:06 PM)
It would have to be plug and play. Something any owner could install using the original wiring with the female spades in place.

Can this be made so it fits in the same area with the same style of plate in the same bolt holes with the same phillips head screws ??


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Nearly plug-and-play. The wiring will be simple plug-in to spade connectors and sitting in the same spot as the orginal. No harness mods.

If you would look under the dash people might just think it is a different cover on the original fuse box because the layout is so similar.

It will mount on the original removable metal plate, two new holes in that plate but not in the chassis itself.

I'm waiting for a little better weather down here (next week) and I will get the prototype mounted in my car (it's fitted to a spare harness right now) and show some pics.

I will have to order the fuse boxes in quantity, though, so that is why I need to gauge interest before diving in.
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post Nov 7 2003, 02:39 PM
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http://www.bussauto.com/products/powerdist/

Here are some options!!! The ATC blade type looks neat!
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post Nov 7 2003, 02:42 PM
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Also... look into some of the issues raised in this thread on the Bird site...

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/showthread....threadid=129693

There's issue raised regarding..

>>positive junction terminal that's on the side of the fuse box mounting tab (a brown phenolic thing with a terminal junction on it)<

and then later Dave Darling states that the '73 and later cars don't have this.

Not sure if your fuse box design will be affected by the potential "difference in design" between the early and later harnesses/fuse panel.
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post Nov 7 2003, 04:09 PM
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Thanks Karl, yes , the + junction terminal went away, but the fuse box design works for all years. The fuse ratings were changed for a couple fuses, but the later (lower amp) works fine in the early cars.

An interesting thing I found out when looking at the details of this; fuse #8 had a bunch of components run off of it (brake, B/U, turn signal lights, etc.) that were moved to fuse #9 in '72. I have a 1976 owners manual, and it still lists the fused items in the pre '72 configuration. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Nov 8 2003, 12:23 AM
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I would get one if i had the money. The $130 is actually reasonable based on prices i've seen.
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