Project Turbo 914 begins..., (yes, I know you can't turbo a 914) Options

[Zardozz]

Head porn, some of the best...

[ConeDodger]

Now Dave, is that cot where you sleep now that your wife found the receipts for the new parts? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif)

Still waiting on that CD of turbo pics... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[ottox914]

MORE PARTS!!!!

(that darn wife)

Apparently Mr. Fed-x stopped by yesterday, and left 7 boxes in the garage. Mrs. Me sort of forgot to mention this last night..... GGGrrrrrrrrrr... A practical joke is one thing, but c'mon, these are 914 parts! Have meetings with the boss all day, so I just can't blow off work and tear into those boxes, but you can bet the cardboard will be flying this pm. And pics added.

Cone- haven't forgot about your cd, but wanted to set up and take a few more of the exhaust and IC routing, since with everything out of the car, its easier to follow the route from air cleaner to engine.

[ottox914]

parts, Parts, PARTS!!!!! I haven't had a chance to pull my invoice and see that every last little bit I ordered is here, but from my initial "tear into it all and drool" it looks like its all there. Those JE pistons are the silver bullet that makes it all work, matching the 2.0 crank and rods to the smaller bore we're going with, to promote a better jug to head seal. Still a long way to go- need to get the case situation figured out, then set up a clean room in the garage, start prepping parts, then finally put wrench to metal.

Big box is the case. Nice job, Fed-x. Balanced crank. The flywheel, clutch system, crank, and fan were balanced as an assembly. Cool.

[ottox914]

More fun parts-

Re-surface, balanced, lightened flywheel. New clutch and pressure plate to put the power down. Cam, bearings, other goodies to build a motor.

[ottox914]

My favorite picture- the silver bullet, the JE pistons, that make this all possible. Good to go to take the heat from some boost, set up to mate the 2.0 crank/rods to the smaller than 2.0 bore we are going with to (hopefully) get a better seal between the jugs and the head. Balanced rods with ARP bolts, and OEM 1.7 jugs bored out for the pistons.

Whoa. That was all pretty good. Almost as good as... Uh, I think I need a smoke.

[jmill]

Very nice. When you get that thing put back together you'll have to take a trip down South to my neck of the woods. Mine won't be running anytime soon otherwise I'd head up your way.

[ConeDodger]

Nice Dave... Too bad you can't turbocharge a 914... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

[ottox914]

Nice Dave... Too bad you can't turbocharge a 914... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

Wait a minute... no one ever told me THAT... Oh boy...

[ottox914]

Late Breaking News!

I have made contact with an old aircooled engine builder, with a shop full of cool machine tools. He's built everything from restoration 36hp vw's, to 400 hp sandrail engines, airplane conversions, turbo hondas, model A fords, Porsche 6 cyls, all manner of scca FV motors. He's done plenty of big money motors in the last 30yrs, but in his "retirement" likes projects that are a little out there, interesting and challenging, different. He agreed to assist and help build the turbo type IV.

AND, Mrs. Me agreed that taking a week off work to build the motor and get it installed would be a good thing, so...

The last week of May, so long as things calm down at his shop a little, we'll be building the long block. I'll need to get it back home and dress it with tin and cooling, and install it and the turbo goodies on my own. I designed it, built it, took it apart, I should be able to get it back together.

I'm equal parts excited and terrified. Can hardly wait to drive the car again and see how the mix of bits Jake and Len and I came up with works, but a little concerned that it all comes together and I don't do something bone-headed.

Oh, and lets "boost" up the votes for the yellow turbo car in the COTM. Voting ends tomorrow...

Thanks for your support and interest. More update coming nearer the end of May and into June.

[ConeDodger]

Cool! If I might ask, who are we talking about here? I know a few of the oldsters in Minnesota.

Dave, you need to be less subtle... You are blazing new 914 territory.

VOTE FOR CAR #3 IN THE COTM THREAD GOING ON NOW!!!

[ottox914]

Cool! If I might ask, who are we talking about here? I know a few of the oldsters in Minnesota.

Dave, you need to be less subtle... You are blazing new 914 territory.

VOTE FOR CAR #3 IN THE COTM THREAD GOING ON NOW!!!

The guys name is: Dick Burns.

There is a little concern on Jakes site that some old timer is going to build the motor the way they did it 30 yrs ago... My plan is to build it (mostly)myself, with a laptop and Jakes dvd, in his shop, with every machine tool known to mankind available for use should something need a tweek, and someone there who knows how to use them all. And, when it time to measure for deck height, valve train geometry and such, the measuring tools and set ups should be right at hand, saving me time trying to figure out how to use whatever is in my garage to get the right info to be sure the build goes well.

[ConeDodger]

I recall the name. I worked with Bill Jenkins at Dune Buggy Supply when I was in high school and just after getting back from the military.

I can't imagine you letting someone else build that motor... You have put too much design effort into it. I like using Mark's shop because he has a clean room. Small but clean (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[tdiddy]

I recall the name. I worked with Bill Jenkins at Dune Buggy Supply when I was in high school and just after getting back from the military.

I can't imagine you letting someone else build that motor... You have put too much design effort into it. I like using Mark's shop because he has a clean room. Small but clean (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Dick built the align bore machine for dune buggy supply. The one thing I think may be different is the valvetrain geometry set up with the modified swivel foot rockers and the pushrods set to zero lash, there is a thread on jake's site covering that topic. I'd make sure to have that handy, but other than that I'll think you guys will do fine!

[ottox914]

I recall the name. I worked with Bill Jenkins at Dune Buggy Supply when I was in high school and just after getting back from the military.

I can't imagine you letting someone else build that motor... You have put too much design effort into it. I like using Mark's shop because he has a clean room. Small but clean (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I'd love nothing more than to hang with you guys at Marks place and build turbo motors, but you're only about 1/2 a country to far to the west.

[ottox914]

I've had some questions on how the turbo lines are routed. There are plenty of photos of this in the thread, but the car sometimes gets in the way of seeing exactly whats going on here. So, I finally got around to taking some pics of the bits and pieces as they would be set up- without the car.

These first couple are the kerry hunter header to the turbo, and exhaust out the back of the car.

[ottox914]

A few more of the exhaust side of things-

[ottox914]

Now we'll take the compressed air up to the intercooler. The long tube with the double bend goes under the back trunk, next to the starter, and thru the verticle back tin. The loose clamp on this piece is roughly where the pipe goes thru the back tin, by the starter.

[ottox914]

Once thru the back tin the charge air goes thru the straight piece, with a 90 on one end, and 2-45's on the other, to bring the charge air up and into the intercooler, which mounts to the chassis of the car on 2 bars running across the engine compartment.

[ottox914]

The charge air then exits at the big end of the 90 degree fitting, and into a stock WRX intercooler. I'm running the air backwards thru the intercooler from how it is used in the WRX install, but doing this allows me to use the intercooler as a splitter of sorts, to divide up the charge and send it L and R to the ITB's.