Automobile Atlanta's dr 914 now onboard! Options

[dr914@autoatlanta.com]

you are right george, there are plenty of people here (with different experiences and opinions) that can offer info to help me to choose the right 911...I have the right 914...I finally found the right Harley Davidson (after owning 3)...in time I will find the right 911...Steve Gaglione has also been a big help sorting out some ideas about my next vehicle...thanks to all (Craig)
Joe

We have identical cars here one an 86 911 he other an 88 911. The driving difference is dramatic. It is simply the clutch the gearbox and the shifter

[914werke]

Hey George I just for your spam marketing email (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)
How'd you get my addtess? and how do I get it removed if I am so inclined?

[dr914@autoatlanta.com]

Hey George I just for your spam marketing email (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)
How'd you get my addtess? and how do I get it removed if I am so inclined?

Hi Rich, you probably ordered from us, as we have you set up with a previous order and a customer file. No problem at all to eliminate the mailing, just click the bottom and it will be automatically removed

[dsmeyer]

thanks for the response George, I have heard that the air conditioning does not work very well on a 911 prior to 1990...is that correct? I would be interested in an 87-89 911...I would love for the A/C to work also.
thanks
Joe

We have never had complaints on the 86-89 ac as the vents were larger and the blower better. Maybe a complaint on the 77-83 models. Yes the 90 and up worked the best so far but please SAY AWAY for any 964 model!

You're right about the 964s but it sounds like your specific 911 experience is quite limited.
There are hundreds of threads on Pelican discussing pre '90 911 A/C issues along with a couple of companies the specialize in repairs and upgrades for 911 A/C systems.

thanks to everyone for the replies...I am still working on my 914, trying to make it as perfect as possible (while staying original)...I am enjoying the process...It will probably take me a while to find the right 87-89 911 cab...I like the turbo look (but unfortunately not the nutmeg color, thanks for the email though) I wont rush the process, but will take my time to find the right car...and will jump on the pelican forum to get some questions answered (thanks Jason)
Joe

Stay on our forum and ask Joe. I think that between all of the guys here (even though we all own 914s) we could answer all of your questions!

Of course we shouldn't go to Pelican, they're a major direct competitor to Automotive Atlanta. A competitor with their own very successful Forums, most Parts in Stock and a Customer Service Department that is fast and helpful, but that's just my personal experience.

In the 4 years that I have been active on this forum, many of the posts addressing 911s have included the terms "tail dragger" and "donor car" for whatever reasons. That's not to say that there aren't many people on this forum who have great 911 knowledge. My point is that there is far more 911 information in the Pelican data base that you can easily search anytime, or post a question and get more answers faster.
BTW... Pelican was the linked site that hosted updates whenever the old 914Club was down, but I guess the Dr. didn't know that since he's only been around these forums for a couple of weeks.

[grantsfo]

I'm sorry, but this guy sounds like a geek. Lets idolize somone worthwhile like Engman or Eric Shea

[DanT]

We have never had complaints on the 86-89 ac as the vents were larger and the blower better. Maybe a complaint on the 77-83 models. Yes the 90 and up worked the best so far but please SAY AWAY for any 964 model.

You're right about the 964s but it sounds like your specific 911 experience is quite limited.
There are hundreds of threads on Pelican discussing pre '90 911 A/C issues along

what exactly is wrong with 964s?

from what experience do you speak? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

[914werke]

I'm sorry, but this guy sounds like a geek. Lets idolize somone worthwhile like Engman or Eric Shea

Ya know....G (IMG:style_emoticons/default/finger.gif)
"Don't call anyone names. Treat other members like your mother taught you - If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all."

Take it somewhere else (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bootyshake.gif)

[joeav8tor]

Idolize I think is the wrong word to use...having useful knowledge is more like it...just like other people who have been around Porsches for many years (Steve Gaglione, Craig, Ron...etc) and I value their opinions...I am not looking for gear ratios , or dimensions of pistons, just to see if pre 90 911's can have operational air conditioning...there are a lot of people on this site that own 911's in addition to their 914's, and it is a good source for information...I surf around the classified section on the bird board...but I am not a member and have not read any of the info in the 911 forum...but I do have some other links in my favorites discussing the differences in years of the 911...as an end note, it does not seem to be an issue that should cause any hostility from anyone, towards anyone...it is not that big of a deal.
Joe

[dr914@autoatlanta.com]

A funny thing happened to me this morning on the way to the forum:
A customer called with a thick british accent (probably from L.A.) and asked if we sold engine cases. I told him we did but they usually do not go bad and then asked him what he thought wrong with his. He said that it had been sitting for four years and that he just wanted to buy another.
So I then described how we check the crank bore and the cam bore with a straight edge, tank the case and replace the galley plugs and if all checks out then the case is good to reuse.
With that said he replied in a hasty manner: "Well I guess that you do not want to sell me any parts then", and abruptly hung up!
Five minutes later he called back and told one of the other salesmen that he guessed that Automobile Atlanta did not want to sell him any parts and wanted to know where else he can buy them.
Another lost customer from that rude tech advice!
Unfortunately, over the last 29 years this has happened many times here, that after trying to give some tech advice rather than just taking an order for an expensive part, the acid reply is "I guesss that you do not want to sell me any parts" CLICK!
How can a firm survive by "pissing off" customers?

[grantsfo]

I'm sorry, but this guy sounds like a geek. Lets idolize somone worthwhile like Engman or Eric Shea

Ya know....G (IMG:style_emoticons/default/finger.gif)
"Don't call anyone names. Treat other members like your mother taught you - If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all."

Take it somewhere else (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bootyshake.gif)

Does your logic apply to people posting in different languages?

Wat u meegedeeld heeft is echt schokkerend en ik had er geen idee van. Ongelooflijk dat zo'n blijkbaar onderhandse kerel support krijgt van enig lid of van enige club. Wie zou er lid willen zijn van een club die gerunt wordt door een kerel die een auto gestolen heeft en dan wanneer de club hem gered heeft geweigerd heeft het bailgeld terug te betalen. Hij moet een charismatische kerel zijn om nog zo'n volging te hebben.

[dr914@autoatlanta.com]

I'm sorry, but this guy sounds like a geek. Lets idolize somone worthwhile like Engman or Eric Shea

Ya know....G (IMG:style_emoticons/default/finger.gif)
"Don't call anyone names. Treat other members like your mother taught you - If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all."

Take it somewhere else (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bootyshake.gif)

Does your logic apply to people posting in differnt languages?

Wat u meegedeeld heeft is echt schokkerend en ik had er geen idee van. Ongelooflijk dat zo'n blijkbaar onderhandse kerel support krijgt van enig lid of van enige club. Wie zou er lid willen zijn van een club die gerunt wordt door een kerel die een auto gestolen heeft en dan wanneer de club hem gered heeft geweigerd heeft het bailgeld terug te betalen. Hij moet een charismatische kerel zijn om nog zo'n volging te hebben.

The buy was from the Netherlands so I replied to him in his native language!

Thankfully all of us here speak the universal language called "914"!

[grantsfo]

I'm sorry, but this guy sounds like a geek. Lets idolize someone worthwhile like Engman or Eric Shea

Ya know....G (IMG:style_emoticons/default/finger.gif)
"Don't call anyone names. Treat other members like your mother taught you - If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all."

Take it somewhere else (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bootyshake.gif)

Does your logic apply to people posting in different languages?

Wat u meegedeeld heeft is echt schokkerend en ik had er geen idee van. Ongelooflijk dat zo'n blijkbaar onderhandse kerel support krijgt van enig lid of van enige club. Wie zou er lid willen zijn van een club die gerunt wordt door een kerel die een auto gestolen heeft en dan wanneer de club hem gered heeft geweigerd heeft het bailgeld terug te betalen. Hij moet een charismatische kerel zijn om nog zo'n volging te hebben.

The guy was from the Netherlands so I replied to him in his native language!

Thankfully all of us here speak the universal language called "914"!

And the language of bash Brad and 914club too? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) Guess its OK to stir the pot in any language here at 914world other than English? Very classy.

[dr914@autoatlanta.com]

We have never had complaints on the 86-89 ac as the vents were larger and the blower better. Maybe a complaint on the 77-83 models. Yes the 90 and up worked the best so far but please SAY AWAY for any 964 model.

You're right about the 964s but it sounds like your specific 911 experience is quite limited.
There are hundreds of threads on Pelican discussing pre '90 911 A/C issues along

what exactly is wrong with 964s?

from what experience do you speak? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

Dan there are so many things wrong with the 964s that I cannot begin to list them , but just the outrageous cost of the parts compared to the earlier models and the numerous engine problems alone is plenty of reason not to buy

[dsmeyer]

I'm sorry, but this guy sounds like a geek. Lets idolize somone worthwhile like Engman or Eric Shea

Ya know....G (IMG:style_emoticons/default/finger.gif)
"Don't call anyone names. Treat other members like your mother taught you - If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all."

Take it somewhere else (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bootyshake.gif)

"Don't call anyone names" and "If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all."
But... apparently it is acceptable to be as rude as you want to others with profane animated illustrations.... according to you and your mom.

"Isn't that special"

[racerbvd]

We have never had complaints on the 86-89 ac as the vents were larger and the blower better. Maybe a complaint on the 77-83 models. Yes the 90 and up worked the best so far but please SAY AWAY for any 964 model.

You're right about the 964s but it sounds like your specific 911 experience is quite limited.
There are hundreds of threads on Pelican discussing pre '90 911 A/C issues along

what exactly is wrong with 964s?

from what experience do you speak? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

Well, I for one loved my 964 C4, it was fast, fun and decent AC for FL. Now the clutch replacent wasn't cheap, but neither was it on my 88 Carrera, but it was much faster. As the owner of a 78 SC coupe, 83 SC cab and my daily driver being a 88 Carrera Targa. The 964 could get very $$$ if you didn't get the warranty fix on the ealy ones, which meant most took that as a time to upgrade since labor was free (that is why the C4 was so fast) but being an old school guy, I prefere the last of the real 911 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif) So, there are some guys also into 911 here too

[dr914@autoatlanta.com]

We have never had complaints on the 86-89 ac as the vents were larger and the blower better. Maybe a complaint on the 77-83 models. Yes the 90 and up worked the best so far but please SAY AWAY for any 964 model.

You're right about the 964s but it sounds like your specific 911 experience is quite limited.
There are hundreds of threads on Pelican discussing pre '90 911 A/C issues along

what exactly is wrong with 964s?

from what experience do you speak? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

Well, I for one loved my 964 C4, it was fast, fun and decent AC for FL. Now the clutch replacent wasn't cheap, but neither was it on my 88 Carrera, but it was much faster. As the owner of a 78 SC coupe, 83 SC cab and my daily driver being a 88 Carrera Targa. The 964 could get very $$$ if you didn't get the warranty fix on the ealy ones, which meant most took that as a time to upgrade since labor was free (that is why the C4 was so fast) but being an old school guy, I prefere the last of the real 911 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif) So, there are some guys also into 911 here too

And I never had any problem with my 94 speedster although mechanically it was far superior to the earlier 964 models. I did wear out the tires in 7000 miles though and the car drank gas as opposed to my 88 cab which was gentle on both. The speedster accessibility and top mechanism was a real problem though and those plastic bumpers, hit a piece of paper in the road at 70 mph and the grilles in the front bumper would be knocked loose and the mounting tabs for them break! Real cheap! And then to compare the fit and finish of the 964 and the 911, well there was no comparison. The 911 was of obviously better quality than the 964 Plus I thought that the 911 drove a lot better than the 964. I hated that mcpherson strut suspension

[turbo914v8]

Good day George, I have had great dealings with you in the past and look forward to more. I have a question for you. I need to put 930 CV's in my 914. My question is do you have a stub axel conversion that would work. I am bent on installing the 930 CV's. I have everything else covered.

[dr914@autoatlanta.com]

Good day George, I have had great dealings with you in the past and look forward to more. I have a question for you. I need to put 930 CV's in my 914. My question is do you have a stub axel conversion that would work. I am bent on installing the 930 CV's. I have everything else covered.

]
Hi Paul. You should be able to use the 930 stub axles in your application. They will fit fine into the 69-73 911 five lug hub and work great with the five lug braking suspension system.

[nomore9one4]

George, is AA/yourself going to have a vendors area at Hershey this year? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif)

[dr914@autoatlanta.com]

George, is AA/yourself going to have a vendors area at Hershey this year? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif)

Hi Robert and thank you for the post. We used to do that years ago but the market has really changed and we are trying only to hit the big concours events. With the advent of E bay, swap meets are becoming a thing of the past and to take a bunch of stuff up there to sell is really futile, and if we ever need to buy any used parts for resale we too just look on e bay and can usually find what we want. Sad but true! Will attend the parade the registry holiday Hilton head concours and four local concours and amelia island this year.
Other than that really nothing as we are so needed on the phones, for example saturdays are slammed with tech advice and people coming to visit so it is hard to leave here!