Its the final countdown, progress thread |
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Its the final countdown, progress thread |
type11969 |
Jan 8 2007, 09:29 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,231 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Collingswood, NJ Member No.: 1,410 Region Association: North East States |
I've had this 71 for 3 years now and I've only driven it for 10 minutes before I bought it. I figure if I haven't made serious progress by the spring, she is getting stripped and scrapped. You'll see why. Its probably only a parts car, but I want to learn how to weld, and if I can get this thing back on the road, I think I will be well on my way. I'll start from the beginning:
The exterior, looks harmless enough: (IMG:http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b188/type11969/914/914.jpg) The interior, looks pretty good (wait, what was that saying about wrapping a piece of poo in a pretty package): (IMG:http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b188/type11969/914/914012.jpg) Long looks okay at first glance: (IMG:http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b188/type11969/914/914009.jpg) Wait, umm, is this factory installed golf ball sized hunks of epoxy and bondo: (IMG:http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b188/type11969/914/111404015.jpg) Yum: (IMG:http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b188/type11969/914/111404010.jpg) Delicious: (IMG:http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b188/type11969/914/111404012.jpg) Craptacular: (IMG:http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b188/type11969/914/914-2018.jpg) Brace yourself (also have another brace running to the drivers side door jamb, couldn't find that pic): (IMG:http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b188/type11969/914/111404001.jpg) Couldn't find any pics of the lovely riveting and brazing job a PO did with re-attaching the portion of the fender below the sail, but I hacked that focker off: (IMG:http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b188/type11969/914/121304002.jpg) Mmm, clean: (IMG:http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b188/type11969/914/121304013.jpg) Also found after removing the interior that the passenger side was once used as a pool, the entire lower inner corner of the long and bulkhead was gone. PO crappily arc welded a new floorpan in, but didn't fix any of the other damage: (IMG:http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b188/type11969/914/Picture069.jpg) (IMG:http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b188/type11969/914/Picture070.jpg) (IMG:http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b188/type11969/914/Picture071.jpg) (IMG:http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b188/type11969/914/111404002.jpg) Quick break, then pics of the repairs so far . . . |
type11969 |
Jan 8 2007, 09:37 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,231 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Collingswood, NJ Member No.: 1,410 Region Association: North East States |
Pics too big? I'll resize if needed.
Repairs thus far: Rotted inner long corner repair: (IMG:http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b188/type11969/914/PB40NJdeployment2066.jpg) (IMG:http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b188/type11969/914/PB40NJdeployment2068.jpg) (IMG:http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b188/type11969/914/pic003.jpg) Inside: (IMG:http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b188/type11969/914/pic004.jpg) (IMG:http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b188/type11969/914/pic005.jpg) More recent work (skipped the part where I hacked out the heater tube and a bunch more metal, I'll see if I can find those pics too): (IMG:http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b188/type11969/914/pic002.jpg) Pieces welded in: (IMG:http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b188/type11969/914/pic011.jpg) Ground down for another layer: (IMG:http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b188/type11969/914/pic013.jpg) The next piece to go in: (IMG:http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b188/type11969/914/pic014.jpg) To be welded in tomorrow. GREs are done, applications are done, its time to get this thing off jackstands. |
type11969 |
Jan 8 2007, 09:40 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,231 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Collingswood, NJ Member No.: 1,410 Region Association: North East States |
Last for the night . . . 914 and garage on the move from my rents house to my own garage in Philly:
(IMG:http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b188/type11969/914/misc007.jpg) Open invite to whoever wants to come down to help with this thing, needs help on their 914, or just wants to BS. Grill is only a few steps away from the teener. -Chris |
Hammy |
Jan 8 2007, 10:39 PM
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mr. Wonderful Group: Members Posts: 1,826 Joined: 20-October 04 From: Columbia, California Member No.: 2,978 Region Association: Northern California |
Don't scrap. Why give up after you've gone this far?
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Eric Taylor |
Jan 8 2007, 10:48 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 909 Joined: 1-June 03 From: Newport, OR/Eugene Oregon- UO Member No.: 770 |
yeah man! Awesome work. I really admire people who are willing to do this. I need to learn how to weld too. Hummmm, maybe I should find a rusty old teener. Anyway keep up the good work, it's gona be such a sweet first drive.
Eric |
markb |
Jan 8 2007, 11:37 PM
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914less :( Group: Members Posts: 5,449 Joined: 22-January 03 From: Nipomo, CA Member No.: 180 Region Association: Central California |
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McMark |
Jan 9 2007, 12:07 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
Scrap? Give up? Did I miss something? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) He's just moving.
Looks great. BTW, is your thread title supposed to be a reference to Arrested Development?
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JerryP |
Jan 9 2007, 07:24 AM
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member Group: Members Posts: 314 Joined: 8-October 03 From: Berwyn, PA Member No.: 1,225 |
Nice work Chris. Where are you in Philly? I have a similar project going, hopefully not as extensive as yours but you never know. I've started the cutting but could use some (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif) tips and would love to see what you've done. I'm out near King of Prussia.
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type11969 |
Jan 9 2007, 07:32 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,231 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Collingswood, NJ Member No.: 1,410 Region Association: North East States |
Not really a reference to arrested development, but it does remind me of Gob using that Europe classic as his theme music. Really just a reference to the song I suppose, made sense considering that if I don't make serious progress in the next few months, I will part this car out. But I am pretty motivated right now, so things are looking up.
-Chris |
type11969 |
Jan 9 2007, 07:36 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,231 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Collingswood, NJ Member No.: 1,410 Region Association: North East States |
Jerry-
I'm in Northern Liberties, about 1-1.5 miles north of Center City (between 5th and 6th and close to Girard). If you want to meet up some time, just let me know. I'll be working on my 914 probably every night this week, let me know if you want to stop by. Maybe next week I can stop by KoP to check out what you are up to. -Chris |
type11969 |
Jan 9 2007, 07:38 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,231 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Collingswood, NJ Member No.: 1,410 Region Association: North East States |
Mark, missed the youtube movie you posted until now, great AD clip!
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type11969 |
Jan 10 2007, 07:54 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,231 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Collingswood, NJ Member No.: 1,410 Region Association: North East States |
tacked
(IMG:http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b188/type11969/914/pic001.jpg) fully welded (IMG:http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b188/type11969/914/pic006-1.jpg) Welds are getting better, starting to get a feel for how to make the bead flow . . . Next to grind down the welds in the areas of those bump outs, fab the bump outs, and weld in. |
McMark |
Jan 10 2007, 10:50 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
Looking good! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumb3d.gif)
Watch out for warpage with those long beads. It's surprising how much a car can bend. It looks like you're doing them in 1" segments which is good. Jump around a lot and let the welds cool. Take your time. Those are some great shots of the inside of the long. Very informative for people who are wondering "What's in there?" Keep going! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif) |
swood |
Jan 10 2007, 10:58 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,839 Joined: 6-February 03 From: Strong Beach Member No.: 251 Region Association: None |
thanks burger boy...I'm going to have that damn Europe song stuck in my head...
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type11969 |
Jan 11 2007, 07:05 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,231 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Collingswood, NJ Member No.: 1,410 Region Association: North East States |
Looking good! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumb3d.gif) Watch out for warpage with those long beads. It's surprising how much a car can bend. It looks like you're doing them in 1" segments which is good. Jump around a lot and let the welds cool. Take your time. Those are some great shots of the inside of the long. Very informative for people who are wondering "What's in there?" Keep going! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif) Yeah, I'm jumping around from one location on the patch to the next and joining the tacks, took me at least an hour to tack in then weld that plate. Hopefully that was taking long enough, any good rules of thumb for wait time? Warpage is definitely a concern considering where I am welding, I don't want to throw the rear end out of whack. -Chris |
tdsmoonchild |
Jan 12 2007, 09:39 AM
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Terry Group: Members Posts: 197 Joined: 18-January 06 From: Duncanville,TX Member No.: 5,431 |
Yeah, I'm jumping around from one location on the patch to the next and joining the tacks, took me at least an hour to tack in then weld that plate. Hopefully that was taking long enough, any good rules of thumb for wait time? Warpage is definitely a concern considering where I am welding, I don't want to throw the rear end out of whack. -Chris At the hardware store they sell some spray stuff that keeps the surrounding metal cool. Anyone tried that stuff? Can't remember what it's called, but it seems like if it works it would help, especially with body panels. |
highways |
Jan 12 2007, 05:35 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 613 Joined: 18-June 05 From: Los Angeles, CA Member No.: 4,296 |
I was doing 1 inch welds on front fender filling in side marker lights- going slow. I still toasted it and watched it tin-can right in front of my eyes one minute later. Ouch. On the next side I went REAL slow, only tacked small spots, and used a damp cloth to keep things cool and never let heat build up. Turned out much better. I think welding a complete seam is overkill- cars were originally spot welded and seam sealed on the rest. I think if a part is getting too hot to 'nearly' touch it with your bare hand- then it's time to cool down. But also- I'm just a beginner so I don't claim to have infalliable info. Just had 15 minutes of practice on scrap sheetmetal before I fixed my hell hole, rear suspension console, floors, ect. 2 weeks later- car is on four solid wheels again! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drunk.gif)
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type11969 |
Jan 16 2007, 09:56 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,231 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Collingswood, NJ Member No.: 1,410 Region Association: North East States |
Sadly the weekend was mostly a waste, got a little grinding done but spent most of it either hungover or watching football or both. Fabbed a couple little pieces today to extend the inner long "gussets":
(IMG:http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b188/type11969/914/pic002-1.jpg) Welding time tomorrow! Also nabbed a pic of the adjustable strut/brace setup I have in the car to keep the gap between the targa bar and windshield right: (IMG:http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b188/type11969/914/pic001-1.jpg) Please note the high performance steering wheel I have to use now do to the constraints of this new rollcage. Patent pending. -Chris |
nebreitling |
Jan 16 2007, 10:05 PM
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Member Emeritus Group: Members Posts: 3,314 Joined: 26-March 03 From: San Francisco Member No.: 478 |
jesus! that is an insane project. congratulations on making it this far.
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type11969 |
Jan 17 2007, 06:55 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,231 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Collingswood, NJ Member No.: 1,410 Region Association: North East States |
Thanks! I wish I was putting all this effort into a 6 chassis, because I know my effort would be more worth it in the end. Then again, I don't think learning to weld on a 6 chassis is a great idea. Really it hasn't cost me very much to get this far, and I don't see it costing me very much either. Some sheet metal, cut off wheels, drill bits, etc. Real expense is just time . . .
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