Its the final countdown, progress thread Options

[Boojum]

Yeah, I'm jumping around from one location on the patch to the next and joining the tacks, took me at least an hour to tack in then weld that plate. Hopefully that was taking long enough, any good rules of thumb for wait time? Warpage is definitely a concern considering where I am welding, I don't want to throw the rear end out of whack.

-Chris

At the hardware store they sell some spray stuff that keeps the surrounding metal cool. Anyone tried that stuff? Can't remember what it's called, but it seems like if it works it would help, especially with body panels.

Yep, it can also be had at welding supply houses for less money. I would advise against it, however, unless you know what you're doing... It can make buckling on this thin gauge metal even worse in the right conditions. I mainly use it when I can't avoid welding near plastic parts, wiring, etc. I use it all the time for plumbing, though. It's good at stopping heat-creep to valves and other solderable parts.

[dkos]

Dr.,

It's a rare talent you have. It's not easy to offend someone with a compliment. You are a master.

I'm assuming it's not your intent, but somehow it comes across that way. I guess that's one of the dangers of "talking" this way. You can't hear the other person's tone of voice or see their eyes rolling.

Dave

[dr914@autoatlanta.com]

[quote name='dkos' date='Jan 30 2007, 01:36 PM' post='856245']
"And Chris I completely defer to the man who has put that much time into his 914 and congratulate you."
[/quote]


Dr.,

It's a rare talent you have. It's not easy to offend someone with a compliment. You are a master.

I'm assuming it's not your intent, but somehow it comes across that way. I guess that's one of the dangers of "talking" this way. You can't hear the other person's tone of voice or see their eyes rolling.

Dave
[/quote]

Good point and it really is hard to tell the intention when just typing. However i am sincere in my comments. ANY man who puts that much personal labor into restoring a 914 should always be commended and NEVER put down! I am the first to commend him. My comments were only to make a point that there IS an easier more efficient way to do it as others have made it easy for us to restore these cars!
Please keep in mind however that I have rebuilt/restored well over 500 914s over the last 32 years so there is some credence here in what I say, just from my experience, to hell with my skill. Man learns the easiest cheapest laziest way to get something accomplished, (BUT PROPERLY!!!!) and I am a good example of that man.

[dkos]

well said!

[dkos]

so Chris...any new pics? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif)

[type11969]

Wow! Dr. 914 defers to me!! Such responsibility, I haven't even been to the 914 University yet, let alone achieve a PhD in 914ing! I think I'll name myself 914 Dictator for Life. Gosh, I'm not sure how I will handle the prestige . . . Guess I'll just have to keep on keeping on, don't start forwarding all your 914 related e-mails to me yet Dr., my head is still swimming from this honour.

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Took Tuesday night off, restaurant week in Philly. Good food for cheap trumps working in the garage! Got a little done last night, pics didn't turn out so hot though. Cleaned up the area around the heater tube outlet, lots of seam sealer in that area, also finished up the cutout through the long for the heater tube:

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Made some brackets to replace the rusted out sections of the ones that secure the heater tubes in the long

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Probably gonna be the last update until next week though, life getting in the way again . . .


Seriously though, Dr. 914, I can do without the patronizing comments. I know you have a lot of experience with 914s, but that doesn't mean that the products you sell are the only or even the best way to fix a 914, depending on the situation. So telling me, or anyone, that using the products you carry will make the car stronger, more valuable, and last longer just comes off as cheap advertisement. Just like the unsolicited e-mail I received from AA touting your repair pieces shortly after I started this thread. I'll never pretend to know as much as you do about 914s, I know I'll have questions for you in the future and I'm sure I will be ordering from AA soon as well. But I do know a little bit about structures, I design 50+ ton seafaring power conversion buoys for a living, so having you tell me your replacement pieces are the best way to go is rather irritating.



-Chris

[type11969]

Heater tube sheet metal tacked in:

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Getting closer . . .

[Johny Blackstain]

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/clap56.gif) Wow!! Kick-ass project & thread! Magnificent, eye opening & very educational. Think I will eventually be doing a lot of similar work to my 6. Please keep up the work and the thread. I'm sure it's a burden but I feel grateful for your work & I'm sure others do as well. Be worth a trip across the Mason-Dixon to come & see for myself. Kick-ass!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool_shades.gif)

[type11969]

Thanks Johny! You are welcome to stop by whenever, but, with any luck, I'll be sealing up the long in the next week or two. Tough to see the guts then!

[Johny Blackstain]

Thanks Johny! You are welcome to stop by whenever, but, with any luck, I'll be sealing up the long in the next week or two. Tough to see the guts then!

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) Thank you for your gracious invitation. I'd be happy to shoot up this weekend & take a look. I've been having dreams/nightmares of sandblasting & acid baths. GOD I HATE RUST!! I was thinking after all that work you've done you must be considering an upgraded power plant? Let me know what you think. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool_shades.gif)

[type11969]

Thanks Johny! You are welcome to stop by whenever, but, with any luck, I'll be sealing up the long in the next week or two. Tough to see the guts then!

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) Thank you for your gracious invitation. I'd be happy to shoot up this weekend & take a look. I've been having dreams/nightmares of sandblasting & acid baths. GOD I HATE RUST!! I was thinking after all that work you've done you must be considering an upgraded power plant? Let me know what you think. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool_shades.gif)

Saturday morning up to about 1pm will work for me, or later on during Sunday. If you have a working 914 you would like to bring along, great, nothing better than a working 914 for motivation, but I can understand if you would rather not because of the cold and road salt! Let me know what you think about times.

Upgraded power plant? My guess is that I will probably throw the 1.7 back in there with dual weber icts, may split the case, throw in a better cam, etc. Down the road I want to take the 1.8 that I have in my beetle, throw the 2.0L heads I have sitting around on it, put that in the 914, and megasquirt it. Gotta build a new engine for the Beetle first, got a beast in the works. Figure if I put the beast in 914, I'll never want to drive the Beetle!

[Johny Blackstain]

Thanks Johny! You are welcome to stop by whenever, but, with any luck, I'll be sealing up the long in the next week or two. Tough to see the guts then!

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) Thank you for your gracious invitation. I'd be happy to shoot up this weekend & take a look. I've been having dreams/nightmares of sandblasting & acid baths. GOD I HATE RUST!! I was thinking after all that work you've done you must be considering an upgraded power plant? Let me know what you think. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool_shades.gif)

Saturday morning up to about 1pm will work for me, or later on during Sunday. If you have a working 914 you would like to bring along, great, nothing better than a working 914 for motivation, but I can understand if you would rather not because of the cold and road salt! Let me know what you think about times.

Upgraded power plant? My guess is that I will probably throw the 1.7 back in there with dual weber icts, may split the case, throw in a better cam, etc. Down the road I want to take the 1.8 that I have in my beetle, throw the 2.0L heads I have sitting around on it, put that in the 914, and megasquirt it. Gotta build a new engine for the Beetle first, got a beast in the works. Figure if I put the beast in 914, I'll never want to drive the Beetle!

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/type.gif) I understand, be very hard to drive a low powered bug over a high powered teener. Forgive my ignorance but what is a megasquirt? Also, have you considered drilling out the gallies for a hydro cam conversion?
I'm down in the DC area of MD so the soonest I could make it on Sat would be around 1pm. Perhaps Sun? If not, I'm still gonna try to go to Hershy no matter what's going on that "other" thread. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool_shades.gif)

[type11969]

Megasquirt is a DIY fuel injection system. I've tossed the idea around of having hydro lifters, but usually you can't get as much performance out of a hydro cam as you can with a solid lifter cam, so I'll probably stick with solids.

Sunday later on in the day, 3 or so, definitely works for me. Let me know . . .

[Johny Blackstain]

Megasquirt is a DIY fuel injection system. I've tossed the idea around of having hydro lifters, but usually you can't get as much performance out of a hydro cam as you can with a solid lifter cam, so I'll probably stick with solids.

Sunday later on in the day, 3 or so, definitely works for me. Let me know . . .

Is that the one I've seen that sells for around $1800.00 & looks like 2 2 barrels? I've wanted to swap out my ancient d-jetronic for that ever since I saw it. I wish I could mess around w/ my 2.0 but I can't. It's why I got my 6- love at 1st sight. Completely messed with, un-restorable 914-6 that I can play with as much as I want! (I have no idea where the original 2.0/6 is & I don't want to know!)
If you're in Jersey, just outside of Philly, I'm about 2.5 hrs away, I think. I'd like to bring the "Bitch", but as you said weather, salt, etc... If I leave around 11am I should be there by 2:30/3:00pm? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool_shades.gif)

Al- aka Johny Blackstain

[michelko]

Another one fight the rust!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif)

Very, very nice work. reminds me so much on my project.

Best wishes for you and the car and maybe soon (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif)

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[type11969]

Megasquirt is a DIY fuel injection system. I've tossed the idea around of having hydro lifters, but usually you can't get as much performance out of a hydro cam as you can with a solid lifter cam, so I'll probably stick with solids.

Sunday later on in the day, 3 or so, definitely works for me. Let me know . . .

Is that the one I've seen that sells for around $1800.00 & looks like 2 2 barrels? I've wanted to swap out my ancient d-jetronic for that ever since I saw it. I wish I could mess around w/ my 2.0 but I can't. It's why I got my 6- love at 1st sight. Completely messed with, un-restorable 914-6 that I can play with as much as I want! (I have no idea where the original 2.0/6 is & I don't want to know!)
If you're in Jersey, just outside of Philly, I'm about 2.5 hrs away, I think. I'd like to bring the "Bitch", but as you said weather, salt, etc... If I leave around 11am I should be there by 2:30/3:00pm? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool_shades.gif)

Al- aka Johny Blackstain

Megasquirt is cheap, 200-300 to build the brain, but you have to do everything yourself, solder the board together, set the fuel maps, etc. $1800 option is definitely more plug and play. I've got the brain and relay board soldered together, I can show you on Sunday.

I'm actually in Philly itself, Northern Liberties. 2-2.5 hours to MD/DC area, 95 all the way. 2-3 sounds good, pm me later on and I can send proper instructions.

[type11969]

Another one fight the rust!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif)

Very, very nice work. reminds me so much on my project.

Best wishes for you and the car and maybe soon (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif)

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Michelko, thanks for the kind words. Your thread was a definite inspiration! I know I am not up to the quality of your work, but the repairs will be strong and with any luck I will be on the road in the next few months.

-Chris

[Johny Blackstain]

Chris- let me know regarding Sunday. If not, no biggie but I'd still like to see her. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool_shades.gif)

[type11969]

pm sent

[type11969]

After a rough, but entertaining weekend, I've gotten some more progress done. Heater tube welded in, put some tacks around the circumference to connect it to the inner long, I didn't acheive as tight as a fit as factory:

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Welded in the engine compartment. Yeah, welding around the entire circumference was unecessary, but that heater tube is now a piece of the structure of the car. May not help a tremendous amount, but it will help some:

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Brackets welded in to support the heater tube:

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-Chris