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| dr914@autoatlanta.com |
 Jan 12 2007, 12:43 PM
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914 Guru  Group: Members Posts: 8,101 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None  |
No this is not a piece cut from a rust free California 914 but rather a construction of all of the great aftermarket rust repair panels available for our 914s.
Panels + Pieces consist of: Upper Longitudinal Battery Tray Battery Support Engine Shelf Inner Suspension Console Inner Wheelhouse Jack Plate Jack Tube Outer Firewall Inner Firewall Cross Member Floor Pan Quarter Door Sill Door Jamb Floor Pan Triangle (IMG:http://www.autoatlanta.com/rustoration/new/four.jpg) (IMG:http://www.autoatlanta.com/rustoration/new/one.jpg) (IMG:http://www.autoatlanta.com/rustoration/new/two.jpg) (IMG:http://www.autoatlanta.com/rustoration/new/six.jpg) (IMG:http://www.autoatlanta.com/rustoration/new/five.jpg) (IMG:http://www.autoatlanta.com/rustoration/new/three.jpg) |
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| John |
Jan 12 2007, 12:50 PM
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member? what's a member? Group: Members Posts: 3,393 Joined: 30-January 04 From: Evansville, IN (SIRPCA) Member No.: 1,615 Region Association: None |
Just how much is that collection of parts (ballpark as I can't afford it right now anyway)?
Do you also sell the outer trailing arm support (3 bolt holes) that would mount on the long in the wheelhouse? (also how much) |
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| BKLA |
Jan 12 2007, 12:51 PM
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Really old member Group: Members Posts: 1,253 Joined: 14-August 05 From: OR Member No.: 4,590 Region Association: Pacific Northwest 
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Are these in your new catalog? Are they shown individual pieces?
WaHoo! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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| nocones |
Jan 12 2007, 12:55 PM
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Sportscar lunatic Group: Members Posts: 428 Joined: 17-June 04 From: Santa Rosa, CA Member No.: 2,220 |
Wow. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif)
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| Chris Pincetich |
Jan 12 2007, 01:04 PM
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B-) Group: Members Posts: 2,082 Joined: 3-October 05 From: Point Reyes Station, CA Member No.: 4,907 Region Association: Northern California |
Very nice! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
We're on our way to wleding together a complete 914 with all new metal! Have you ever done the math to figure out how much a 914 built from scratch with all your and Porsche factory "new" parts would cost?? $15-40K? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) |
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| obscurity |
Jan 12 2007, 01:21 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 411 Joined: 24-February 06 From: Atlanta ,GA Member No.: 5,628 Region Association: South East States |
How much does that cost installed? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) Seriously
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| TravisNeff |
Jan 12 2007, 01:24 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,082 Joined: 20-March 03 From: Mesa, AZ Member No.: 447 Region Association: Southwest Region
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Holy Smokes! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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| dr914@autoatlanta.com |
Jan 12 2007, 02:10 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,101 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(ChrisNPDrider @ Jan 12 2007, 11:04 AM)  Very nice! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) We're on our way to wleding together a complete 914 with all new metal! Have you ever done the math to figure out how much a 914 built from scratch with all your and Porsche factory "new" parts would cost?? $15-40K? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) thank you very much! We dream about building a 914 from parts but there are just not enough of the pieces to build a whole 914 At one time our friend Roger Reynolds had almost a complete set to replace his rusty but lost faith when the construction charges were our of sight. There is however a 914-6 brand new shell in Germany for 16,000, but with that said who would want to build what is now a museum piece that should be displayed in the bare! |
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| dr914@autoatlanta.com |
Jan 12 2007, 02:13 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,101 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(obscurity @ Jan 12 2007, 11:21 AM) When we reconstruct a 914 we add each piece at a time to keep alignment and replace only what is needed to do a proper RUSToration. Actually just yesterday our man Garrett suggested that it would be neat to see all of the pieces we make for the "hellhole" (I hate calling anything on a 914 hell!!) and our fabricator Dan enthusiastically volunteered to put it together. You can imagine my glee in seeing for the first time an assembly of all of the pieces for this area that we have made over the years. Just like a slice of heaven for the 914!!!! |
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| dr914@autoatlanta.com |
Jan 12 2007, 02:14 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,101 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(BKLA @ Jan 12 2007, 10:51 AM) Are these in your new catalog? Are they shown individual pieces? WaHoo! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) we of course have drawings of the individual pieces but had never assembled it as a whole. I had a good laugh when I first saw it last night!! |
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| dr914@autoatlanta.com |
Jan 12 2007, 02:15 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,101 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(John @ Jan 12 2007, 10:50 AM) Just how much is that collection of parts (ballpark as I can't afford it right now anyway)? Do you also sell the outer trailing arm support (3 bolt holes) that would mount on the long in the wheelhouse? (also how much) that darned outer support is next we are getting more calls every day for it! It has to be made. Anyone out there want to make it?? |
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| dr914@autoatlanta.com |
Jan 12 2007, 02:44 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,101 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
By looking at the picture of the rear assembly, one can see how leaking acid from the battery would run down the slope of the engine shelf/longitudinal, and lo and behold, the frame member and jack tube and support was right there. No wonder the 914s broke in half!
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| McMark |
Jan 12 2007, 02:59 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
What cool perspective of the hell hole area.
There is one part that is not quite original though. I'm sure it's made that way for ease of manufacturing, but it's worth pointing out for educational purposes.  This portion is double layered in the original pieces. The 'corrugated' metal was a C shape that fit inside the U shaped inner longitudinal.  |
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| BIGKAT_83 |
Jan 12 2007, 03:00 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,798 Joined: 25-January 03 From: Way down south Bogart,GA Member No.: 194 Region Association: South East States 
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Looked at all of these early today. They really look good, but hope like hell I never need any of them.
Bob |
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| dr914@autoatlanta.com |
Jan 12 2007, 03:12 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,101 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(BIGKAT_83 @ Jan 12 2007, 01:00 PM) Looked at all of these early today. They really look good, but hope like hell I never need any of them. Bob it really amazes me how many parts comprise this area and it looks like they all sort of converge at once, right where the strength of the car exists! No wonder they so easily broke in half. |
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| obscurity |
 Jan 12 2007, 04:31 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 411 Joined: 24-February 06 From: Atlanta ,GA Member No.: 5,628 Region Association: South East States |
QUOTE(McMark @ Jan 12 2007, 03:59 PM) What cool perspective of the hell hole area. There is one part that is not quite original though. I'm sure it's made that way for ease of manufacturing, but it's worth pointing out for educational purposes. This portion is double layered in the original pieces. The 'corrugated' metal was a C shape that fit inside the U shaped inner longitudinal. If you are replacinga portion the section you are indicating with the ribs, Does anyone know if it will be as strong as the original? You would have a portion with the ribs and a portion with the inner stiffener. With the inner stiffener only spot welded to the outer skin wouldn't it be difficult to get it integrated with the new ribbed skin? I hope I explained that clearly... |
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| McMark |
Jan 12 2007, 04:34 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
Originally, the outer skin is flat, and inner piece has ribs. It sounded like you were a little unclear on that point.
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| dr914@autoatlanta.com |
Jan 12 2007, 05:45 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,101 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(McMark @ Jan 12 2007, 12:59 PM) What cool perspective of the hell hole area. There is one part that is not quite original though. I'm sure it's made that way for ease of manufacturing, but it's worth pointing out for educational purposes. This portion is double layered in the original pieces. The 'corrugated' metal was a C shape that fit inside the U shaped inner longitudinal. Very very good observation. Yes it does not look original! This part is stamped from a heavier gauge metal and then ribbed for extra strengh, the factory piece being thinner metal and sandwiched with ribs only on the thinner inside piece, and yes ease of manufacturing!!!!!!!! On the money!!!!!!! |
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| McMark |
Jan 12 2007, 09:36 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
Thicker metal, good to know and nice solution. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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| obscurity |
Jan 12 2007, 10:18 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 411 Joined: 24-February 06 From: Atlanta ,GA Member No.: 5,628 Region Association: South East States |
QUOTE(McMark @ Jan 12 2007, 05:34 PM) Originally, the outer skin is flat, and inner piece has ribs. It sounded like you were a little unclear on that point. I get that but I guess I am asking do you need to replace the whole piece or can you just replace a portion and attempt to weld the new thicker, ribbed material to both the outer skin and the remaining inner stiffener? It just seems that things would be getting pretty cut up within the long and I was concerned with strength. The reason I ask is I am wrestling with the decision of whether to buy the replacement piece or try to fabricate what I have to cut out due to rust |
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