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> Show us your Cardex/COA!
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post Jan 19 2007, 10:31 PM
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I understand the transmission numbers were not recorded. You can get your build date from the plate in the front driver's door jam.
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post Jan 19 2007, 10:33 PM
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post Jan 20 2007, 06:09 AM
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As someone else already mentioned, the COAs you get nowadays are bound to have errors on them. Take a look at mine which I received just yesterday. The date at the bottom is wrong (2006 instead of 2007), and the total production count for the 1976 model year is misstated (must be 4100, it shows 14100).

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post Jan 20 2007, 06:25 AM
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WOW! That's the nicest COA I've ever seen... with option numbers and everything. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)

Now, why can't PCNA do things that way? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Jan 20 2007, 06:35 AM
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QUOTE(Lawrence @ Jan 20 2007, 07:25 AM) *

WOW! That's the nicest COA I've ever seen... with option numbers and everything. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)

Now, why can't PCNA do things that way? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)


This comes at a price, I'll now have to spend a long time telling them to fix the obvious glaring errors (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)

When I registered the car here in Germany I ordered a technical data sheet from them which contains data that is put into the registration document. I had to bitch and moan three times to get them to correct what they sent me.

- first attempt: the document contains data for a 1.8 engine

- second attempt: the document contains data for the GA engine instead of GC

- third attempt: engine output is corrected, but top speed still matches the GA and not the GC.

At that point I just gave up and asked on a German 914 forum for copies of registrations from people who have a '76 with the GC engine. That was good enough for the technical inspector, but it really ticks me off that I had to pay EUR 116 (about $150) for that Porsche data sheet. Those are done by the very same people who do COAs, so I knew not to expect a lot from the COA...
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post Jan 20 2007, 06:45 AM
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Jens,

Your experience mirrors mine.

COAs in the US are over 100 dollars now. I ordered two back in August. They were backordered, and finally shipped with some rather glaring errors. I requested them to be fixed, I'm still waiting. I talked to a nice lady who is a supervisor with Porsche's contractor who types these up. Hopefully, they'll be enroute soon.

I'm fascinated by the option codes. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) In my opinion, that is VERY cool.

Do you have a link to the forum that you used?
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post Jan 20 2007, 06:49 AM
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Do you have a link to the forum that you used?


Sure:

http://www.pff-online.de/wbb2/board.php?boardid=20
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post Jan 20 2007, 06:56 AM
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Sweet! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_flagge6.gif)

Now I just need to learn German! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chairfall.gif)
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post Jan 20 2007, 07:01 AM
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QUOTE(Lawrence @ Jan 20 2007, 07:56 AM) *

Sweet! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_flagge6.gif)

Now I just need to learn German! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chairfall.gif)


Before you get all excited, I still think this forum is better for the quantity and quality of postings...
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post Jan 20 2007, 07:21 AM
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post Jan 20 2007, 09:25 AM
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QUOTE(type4org @ Jan 20 2007, 04:09 AM) *

As someone else already mentioned, the COAs you get nowadays are bound to have errors on them. Take a look at mine which I received just yesterday. The date at the bottom is wrong (2006 instead of 2007), and the total production count for the 1976 model year is misstated (must be 4100, it shows 14100).

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Notice how the m-471 option has been recycled !!! No longer is it a car with flares and alloy wheels flared rockers 21mm wheel spacers and flared front valance, but rather mahle wheels sway bars and limited edition spoiler!!!!!! No wonder mistakes are being make in these kardexes
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post Jan 20 2007, 10:41 AM
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QUOTE(dr914@autoatlanta.com @ Jan 20 2007, 10:25 AM) *

Notice how the m-471 option has been recycled !!! No longer is it a car with flares and alloy wheels flared rockers 21mm wheel spacers and flared front valance, but rather mahle wheels sway bars and limited edition spoiler!!!!!! No wonder mistakes are being make in these kardexes


I highly doubt the problems arose from M codes that have been re-used over the years or that consist of different items. The errors that I have been seeing are just lack of attention when the COA is prepared. It looks like a rush job. The fact that those guys probably don't know the history themselves but read up on things as they go increases the chance for misstatements like the 14100 cars produced in 1976.
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post Jan 20 2007, 11:48 AM
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So explain to me what is the diff between a "cardex" and a COA?

My COA aquired mabye 4 yrs ago is almost identical to Jeffs in the first post
just for a Creamcicle.
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post Jan 20 2007, 11:51 AM
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Same thing, Rich. The terms are interchangeable. But I've never seen the "technical sheet" that Jens was talking about. Maybe he'll scan it for us? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Jan 20 2007, 12:13 PM
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QUOTE(Lawrence @ Jan 20 2007, 12:51 PM) *

Same thing, Rich. The terms are interchangeable. But I've never seen the "technical sheet" that Jens was talking about. Maybe he'll scan it for us? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)



Sure... So the definite wrong item on here is the 190 kph top speed.


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post Jan 20 2007, 02:53 PM
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The Cardex is the factory records on the cars. I think originally it was on file cards in the 356 era. What they work from now is a computer printout. The COA is the certificate that is prepared and sent to you. The factory printout has to be translated from the factory codes into the listed options. Jens COA show the M options as they would be coded on the printout, and has the translation as well. I am amazed at all the errors in those documents. Obviously the people doing the job are careless.
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post Jan 20 2007, 03:18 PM
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My cardex on my 1974 4-cyl Note: Everything's still on my car. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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post Jan 25 2007, 01:02 AM
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post Jan 25 2007, 08:37 AM
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So is there a benefit to having the cardex, apart from personal satisfaction?
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post Jan 25 2007, 10:47 AM
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So is there a benefit to having the cardex, apart from personal satisfaction?


It can help prove the original condition of the car, and by that be a sales and value estimation help. If you don't care about original condition then none of this might matter to you.
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