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> Sklines new V8 project car, Updated as I go of course
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post Mar 12 2007, 12:01 AM
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Here it starts, I spent about 5 years working on the last project car and it sold on Saturday and I took delivery of the new one the same day. It was someone elses project that had been sitting for years untouched. Here is what I know about the car so far.

One PO started building a Renegade V8 conversion on a 1975 914. Not sure why but he did a slant nose conversion on it, in steel of course and bought a Renegade conversion kit to do a V8. Apparently he never finished it as the last PO bought it and tried to find someone to finish it for him with no luck. The car has pretty much not changed since the first owner. As far as I know, the last PO had it for 3 years. Now I have it.

The car is missing a lot of small parts. Read that as so many I dont know where to begin. Door strikers, door handles, the only interior are destroyed white seats. No lower dash, top dash no good at all, no dash face, no pedal cluster, or shifter, no cables or partial cables, wiring pulled out most everywhere and not connected to anything. The engine and trans are mounted and a very old original RH radiator is sitting in front not really mounted. The gas tank just sitting there not connected to anything, no rockers or rubber. It's pretty much just a shell with an unknown engine and trans.

So here is where it begins:
Today, I sourced a 327 from a 68 Camaro engine casting number #3914678 which I will rebuild with a known configuration that I have used before. Thomas came by earlier and picked up my billet IM plate and HB gearset to install in the transmission. He left before the trans and engine were pulled. Jared was here helping me most of the day. We cleaned everything out of the car and then dropped the engine and trans and removed the radiator and hoses. The radiator looks brand new and never used. The engine and trans looked really clean underneath. The top looked like it was parked outside for the last 3 years, which is probably the case. Anyway, I wanted to find out what clutch and flywheel were used and what I was going to have to upgrade to meet my needs. I measured it and it is the 9" clutch and PP. I can use that for now. I am going to install the new RH radiator and fan setup and new marine exhaust hoses. Tomorrow I will finish removing the rest of removeable parts from the car and move forward with body work.

Did I mention there is no RUST in this car? However, I did find that both rear fenders were replaced at one time, the one on the drivers side rear was originally Yellow and the one on the passenger side rear was bronze I think. The front has taken a hit at one time too and the body work is not as good as the rear. I have my work cut out for me. With any luck, and time, I could get it close to running by the end of summer?

Here are some pictures of the car and what I did today.



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post Mar 21 2007, 04:11 PM
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New parts came today from Chris at Tangerine Racing. I think I will weld these in today and get that step over with. Nice weather today so it should go smooth. It was raining yesterday which is really a hold up since my car is not yet in the garage. Maybe by the weekend I can get it inside.



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post Mar 23 2007, 10:21 AM
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On the ajenda today is strip and prep the enderside of the car ready for welding in all the parts I got this week, with any luck I will have it all done by the end of the weekend. I know I will be working at the port on one day or evening but the rest of the time, I will be cleaning, grinding, welding, more grinding and painting. Here is the stuff for the outside of the car. The inside stuff should be here today from Engman.



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post Mar 23 2007, 10:52 AM
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What there not in yet (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif) Me thinks ya need to get up earlier (IMG:style_emoticons/default/yellowsleep[1].gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sawzall-smiley.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif)
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post Mar 23 2007, 10:57 AM
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Well, I am off to get some stripper now to remove all the paint and undercoating in the wells and engine compartment. Then I will start fitting and welding all this stuff in.

Thanks again Paul for the metal parts. Maybe I will name my car after you? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Mar 23 2007, 11:03 AM
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No Problemo Scotty if ya need something else just holler & dont forget to give me those hole sizes for the alum flanges we need to make (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumb3d.gif) Now get to burnin (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif)
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post Mar 23 2007, 11:58 AM
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QUOTE(spunone @ Mar 23 2007, 09:03 AM) *

No Problemo Scotty if ya need something else just holler & dont forget to give me those hole sizes for the alum flanges we need to make (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumb3d.gif) Now get to burnin (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif)


Just measured them, they are 2" across so I would guess make them 2.25" so the hoses fit since I am using marine exhaust hose, that should make a perfect fit.
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post Mar 23 2007, 12:00 PM
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How big a flange ya need ??
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post Mar 23 2007, 12:06 PM
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There are 2 holes and they are 2" each, I will open them up a little for the flanges and the hose I am using is a Marine Exhaust hose, after thinking about it, just make them both 2", I am sure the hose will fit through.

Here are aome pics of the holes



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post Mar 23 2007, 12:14 PM
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dont put your fingers into dark holes...

could be trolls... or worse... slits is in there with clayton!
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post Mar 23 2007, 03:52 PM
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Here is an updated picture of the weld in kits going into this car. I wonder how much all of this weighs? It wont be the lightest car but it will be strong for sure and with the V8 it should still be fast enough.


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post Mar 23 2007, 05:11 PM
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Your electric bill is gonna be big!!!

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post Mar 23 2007, 05:12 PM
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Skline -
You are missing the Brad Mauer outer stiffening kit... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chairfall.gif)
It will add anther 50 or so pounds as well -

Good luck on your project, and do not get in a hurry welding in the Engman inner... you rush it, and you will mess up your door gaps big time !

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post Mar 23 2007, 05:17 PM
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This will be the fourth Engman inner kit I have done but thanks for the advice. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Mar 24 2007, 09:09 PM
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Welding in some of the parts today, I had forgotten how difficult it was to get the kit to lay flat. Here are some pics of what is being done so far. Almost done with the drivers side outer.



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post Mar 24 2007, 10:49 PM
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Scott,

May be a little early, but are going to be running the same muffler set up as on the Chalon?

Thanks,
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post Mar 24 2007, 11:12 PM
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I just want to add into the mix LS1 400 hp and less weight than the porsche 6!

old school 327 is ok but new tech 400 hp for less weight is welll... make your own decisions.
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I just want to add into the mix LS1 400 hp and less weight than the porsche 6!

old school 327 is ok but new tech 400 hp for less weight is welll... make your own decisions.


he has to put it through a 901.....

400hp + 901 = big hunk of lube and wasted cash
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QUOTE(Aaron Cox @ Mar 24 2007, 10:16 PM) *

QUOTE(LarryR @ Mar 24 2007, 10:12 PM) *

I just want to add into the mix LS1 400 hp and less weight than the porsche 6!

old school 327 is ok but new tech 400 hp for less weight is welll... make your own decisions.


he has to put it through a 901.....

400hp + 901 = big hunk of lube and wasted cash



I had a V8 car over 400hp through a 901... 3 transaxles in 2 yrs. One lasted 6 months (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) , one lasted one track day (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) and one was still in good shape a year plus later when i sold the car (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mueba.gif)

Narrow bodied cars are so traction limited that the transaxles can survive. Limited slip and slicks w/ HP is a lil tough on them though.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post Mar 25 2007, 12:58 PM
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Yes, I am going with the same exhaust setup as I put in the Chalon, I liked the sound of it and it was quiet inside.
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post Apr 9 2007, 10:36 PM
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The floorboard is now stripped, (Thank you Jared, he is working off the parts I gave him) and I am happy to say the worst rust is minor surface rust around the pedal area. The floor is the cleanest and most solid of any car I have seen or owned. The bad news for Jared is he also got around to taking the engine apart, (top end only), the reverse cooling was clogged solid along with the lower end of the block and the water pump was pretty solid too with crap. I will need to rebuild the water pump and replace the reverse cooling fittings on the engine as they were corroded and broke when removed from the engine. I will need to replace them also. Jared will have to clean out the block and the manifold and heads as they are pretty clogged with rust and some white stuff. The oil looks like it had some water in it so he is going to have to drop the pan and check everything. So his will be a few weeks longer till he is ready to get it running. That is all we have done so far, I will take pictures tomorrow after work.
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