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> Sklines new V8 project car, Updated as I go of course
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post Apr 13 2007, 10:29 AM
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Brought one of the engines home today and got it on the stand. Then proceeded to pull it all apart and see what I have to work with. The heads wont be used as I am going to go with a set of ProComp aluminum 205 heads with 64cc chambers. I took a picture of the heads removed anyway as the valves tell stories of how it was running when pulled. Anyone venture a guess as to why it has 3 white valves?

Today I will take the block, carnk, pistons and rods to the machine shop and drop them off to be cleaned and machined.


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post Apr 13 2007, 10:31 AM
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A few more pictures.


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post Apr 13 2007, 10:58 AM
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Yo man, Sorry I didnt call you back. I was no ton spring break and this weekend is a test weekend. I have a very stout set of springs that I would be willing to sell you for low$$. You can check them out and see if they can work for you.
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post Apr 13 2007, 04:24 PM
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QUOTE(skline @ Apr 13 2007, 12:29 PM) *

Brought one of the engines home today and got it on the stand. Then proceeded to pull it all apart and see what I have to work with. The heads wont be used as I am going to go with a set of ProComp aluminum 205 heads with 64cc chambers. I took a picture of the heads removed anyway as the valves tell stories of how it was running when pulled. Anyone venture a guess as to why it has 3 white valves?

Today I will take the block, carnk, pistons and rods to the machine shop and drop them off to be cleaned and machined.


Maybe running a little lean on those cylinders? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
Those heads look like they might have ported intakes? Valves look pretty good sized too - 2.02?

I love following these V8 threads - living vicariously as it were...
FWIW, I read today about one of the major engine manufacturers (Motown?) is making a new block that takes gen 1 bottom end parts - but gen 3/LS top end! Cool! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif)

Something else for the V8 guys to ponder...
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post Apr 13 2007, 06:30 PM
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Hey skline your really going at it!
The white valves you see surely mean a little more heat, but with a carburetor and a small block who knows, lean, outside cyls get less fuel, intake leak, EGR heat in the center one. Now clean it up and get it running (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif)
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post Apr 13 2007, 06:55 PM
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Trying to find a machine shop to do the work. Talked to Clayton and Joe Buckle and now know where one is locally but they said he is not cheap, so far the parts I want to put in it are not cheap either. I am going with aluminum heads with 205 valves and 195 intake runners and 64cc chambers, forged H-beam rods, flat top pistons or +55 domes which should put the compression around 11:1, trying to decide on a camshaft for it, going to run either a performer RPM intake with a 750 Edlebrock carb or the same carb on a Performer Air Gap manifold. Of course it will be running the roller rockers like the last one, I really liked the fact that they were easy to install and adjust and I never heard them tick. I am going for about 375 HP with the torque up in the higher RPM range. It should really kick in around 2200 and stay strong to around 6500. I will put this one on the dyno when I get it going.

So far just in parts I am looking at around $3k and the machine work around 1K with the splaying of the main caps.
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post Apr 13 2007, 07:44 PM
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john the machinist ...
does a great job.

my stuff is there right now.
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post Apr 13 2007, 08:08 PM
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QUOTE(Aaron Cox @ Apr 13 2007, 05:44 PM) *

john the machinist ...
does a great job.

my stuff is there right now.



PM me his number if you have it please (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Apr 13 2007, 10:13 PM
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This is Johns info... he is as good on Type IVs as he is on V8s

John Edwards

Costa Mesa R&D Automotive Machine Shop

123 Monte Vista Ave

Costa Mesa, CA 92627

(949) 631-6376
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post Apr 13 2007, 10:14 PM
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and is a great human to boot. i always come away with some knowledge and a smile.
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post Apr 13 2007, 10:24 PM
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I called and spoke w/ John earlier today... My parts will be in his hands tommorrow...

The rest of you guys can get in line behind me dammit... LOL

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post Apr 13 2007, 10:27 PM
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I called and spoke w/ John earlier today... My parts will be in his hands tommorrow...

The rest of you guys can get in line behind me dammit... LOL

BJH


i just have to write him a check... my stuff is done-
what are you having him to BJ? he has a bunch of scooooby stuff in there too.
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post Apr 13 2007, 10:32 PM
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STI shortblock, and some head work... I need a bit more HP, and lots more TQ (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Apr 13 2007, 11:11 PM
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BJ,

I don't know if you were aware that John does most, if not all of Lance Nists machine work on his 600+ HP suby engines. He also does the SUBY steel liner conversions and the dry sump pan conversions.

He knows some stuff.... Me thinks...

He used to be the prototype guy at Kieth Black for some years. Then moved on to Sunnen to help run their R&D facility's.

He also wrote a couple of books that you guys might have some interest in. You can get em at Amazon.

1.) Sunnen's complete cylinder head and engine rebuilding handbook by John G. Edwards

2.) Turret Mill Operation by John G. Edwards

3.) Lathe Operation and Maintenance by John Edwards

And 4 other books plus 2 automotive videos. He is also the monthly engine performance author for "Sand Sport" Magazine.

I dunno... I guess the guy knows something... And he is ugly and smells bad. Udder than that... I don't know the guy... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/slap.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif)
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post Apr 14 2007, 07:30 AM
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Ask John about his alcohol conversions! I've got an article he wrote on doing a Suby/ethanol conversion - made a bunch more power!

Maybe run that V8 on alchy? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)
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post Apr 14 2007, 08:56 PM
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Parts car arrived today, it is a complete 72 with 1.7 and tailshifter still in it. I think I am going to try to make it run before taking it all apart. The motor looks complete with the FI still on it. I have a battery charging for it right now. Anyway, here are the pictures of it just for the keepsake of the thread.



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post Apr 14 2007, 09:26 PM
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GREAT looking "parts car"

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post Apr 14 2007, 09:31 PM
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It's not bad actually, I have not done any rust assessment yet, Carmen's 10 year old wants the car for his project. That would give him 6 years to restore this car, what do you think?
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post Apr 14 2007, 10:55 PM
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a 1.7 powered teen, that he has put his sweat, tears and blood into would be nice, trouble is 90% of kids 1st cars get wrecked... so maybe a toyota tercel would be a better choice.

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post Apr 14 2007, 11:00 PM
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Well, I just threw a battery in and the car turns over, there is no gas in it so we will get some tomorrow. The 10 year old is so excited he is going to pee his pants. I am working at the port tomorrow and wont be home till around 6 so he is all sad and thinks that Jared will help him tomorrow. He already pulled the front bumper off to open the front deck lid to see what was in it. The rust so far doesnt really look very bad on the underside. There is some typical rust by the drivers side door handle and the front windshield but the trunks look really good. I will look underneath it tomorrow when I get home.
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