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> Help With Turbo Tie Rods, Tie Rod Popped out of Rack
Eric_Shea
post Apr 16 2007, 10:26 AM
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and put a good ole fashioned UMPH on the thng


Uhhhhhhh... you mean "Ass" don't ya? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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post Apr 16 2007, 10:39 AM
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Well ya gotta 1st determine if the guy has enough ass to tighten the damn thing.
Good ole fashioned Umph is more like a specific torque spec.

Little bit less than Really Effin tight.
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post Apr 16 2007, 10:45 AM
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I like to put a bit of blue loctite on those threads before I screw it in. Not red, blue.
Somebody's gonna come up with some good reason not to use it here, but the tie rod obviously unscrewed it's self, and if there had been some loctite on there in the first place it wouldn't have happened, spacers or no spacers.
I also hit my wrench with a big hammer to do the final tightening on these, just to make sure. It would be pretty hard to ever tear up those threads by over tightening, I just want to be sure it's tight.
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post Apr 16 2007, 11:43 AM
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Blue loctite would be a fine idea. But this situation sounds like installer error. Not tightened down enough. Loctite, isn't a bad idea, it just shouldn't be necessary.
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post Apr 16 2007, 12:50 PM
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If there are no spacers (big washers), please check the outer tie-rod ends.

The washers will also space out the tie rod to engage the tie rod end by the same amount. (ie: without the spacer, you have that much less thread engagement with the outer tie-rod end.) You don't want those to unscrew themselves either, and you don't want only 1-2 threads of engagement.

Good luck with it.
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post Apr 16 2007, 01:16 PM
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The outer tie rod does not look right - it is completely threaded on. Maybe the person who aligned it used the inner for the adjustment and it was left loose (baaaad).


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post Apr 16 2007, 02:27 PM
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QUOTE(James Adams @ Apr 16 2007, 12:16 PM) *
The outer tie rod does not look right - it is completely threaded on. Maybe the person who aligned it used the inner for the adjustment and it was left loose (baaaad).

I have to agree... Seems the same to me. Not all alignment shops are experienced in that sense...
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post Apr 16 2007, 03:11 PM
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QUOTE(Brando @ Apr 16 2007, 03:27 PM) *

QUOTE(James Adams @ Apr 16 2007, 12:16 PM) *
The outer tie rod does not look right - it is completely threaded on. Maybe the person who aligned it used the inner for the adjustment and it was left loose (baaaad).

I have to agree... Seems the same to me. Not all alignment shops are experienced in that sense...



I went home at lunch and took the boot off the passenger side. There is not a spacer on it either.

Here are a couple of photo's as best as I could get with the boot pulled back. It looks like the right side is threaded in all the way.

I guess I'll use some blue locktite and screw the driver's side back in. I'll probably drive it around the neighborhood a little and check it out before I drive it to a shop to have the alignment checked out. After the alignment, I guess I need to check it again and be sure they don't back it out of the steering rack, rather than making the adjustment at the other end.

Thanks again for everyone's help.


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post Apr 16 2007, 03:43 PM
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Can you see threads on the tie rod on the end that didn't become disconnected?
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post Apr 16 2007, 04:28 PM
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find the big washers... like john mentioned, in addition to being a rack stop, they also ensure your outer tie rod end has more than a few threads of engagement on it....
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post Apr 16 2007, 05:08 PM
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So far it looks like all the adjustment was done with the end that fell apart. Probably only a few threads of engagement.
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post Apr 16 2007, 06:26 PM
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you are so lucky. i don't get how there can be 0 threads showing on the outside without the spacers. that should cause the outer end threads to be way exposed to make up for the increased overall distance. it just doesn't add up.

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post Apr 16 2007, 06:59 PM
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you are so lucky. i don't get how there can be 0 threads showing on the outside without the spacers. that should cause the outer end threads to be way exposed to make up for the increased overall distance. it just doesn't add up.

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Assuming that the rack side was screwed in all the way, I see what you are getting at......However, this looks more and more that it was never tightened in the first place and it was used for adjustment. It must have been hanging on by only a thread or two.....Big time lucky!. Someone's looking out for you.
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post Apr 16 2007, 09:24 PM
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Get the washers and do it right this time.

Anyone have the spec on the washers?
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post Apr 16 2007, 10:07 PM
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Get the washers and do it right this time.

Anyone have the spec on the washers?


45mm OD
16.5mm ID
7.5mm thick
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