Stolen 914 on Ebay, Purchased from Camp 914 a year ago and then stolen. |
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Stolen 914 on Ebay, Purchased from Camp 914 a year ago and then stolen. |
SirAndy |
Jul 2 2007, 04:40 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,854 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
2. King Oruruo, Oakland hail to the wonders of the internet ... here's your man: http://www.kingknows.com/contact.html (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif) Andy |
Brian Mifsud |
Jul 2 2007, 04:41 PM
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Mechanical Engineer Group: Members Posts: 981 Joined: 3-March 03 From: Penngrove, CA Member No.: 384 Region Association: None |
When was that craigslist ad from? The second owner of the car after it was stolen was a guy named "King Oruruo" in Oakland. Here's the info I've got... If any of this pops out at any of you guys let me know... The chronological list of past owners is: 1. Salayfo Smith, 35th st. Oakland 2. King Oruruo, Oakland 3. Mike Bench, Saratoga 4. Ed Holley, Campbell (current owner) The car was towed by: R. Lance & Sons; 6776 Patterson Pass Rd, Livermore, CA 94550, (925) 245-8884 And the lein sale was handled by Pat's Lein Service; 1542 Holmes St Ste D, Livermore, CA 94550-6008, (925) 455-0932 Ad was posted in Los Angeles. Found on Craigs today. Similar ad also in Austin |
dakotaewing |
Jul 2 2007, 04:42 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,163 Joined: 8-July 03 From: DeSoto, Tx Member No.: 897 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Now the seller is offering to sell the car back to me for $1000 more saying: "This way, I make a little, you make a little and you get your car back." Sheesh. Sounds like a good compromise to me. He should make some money on the car. He bought it legally with valid california title. Why not step up and make the transaction? Grant - I have to respectfully disagree - Aaron would at that point be out $7500 for a car he paid about $4500, IIRC - Remember, the car still should be his no matter what errors the DMV made - Smokey the bandit should go back to the seller he bought the car from, and recover his losses. Each buyer/seller would have to do the same, all the way back to the tow company - After the attitude he has shown on this board, he should have to go to the trouble if he wanted to break even - Also, Pat's lien service I would suspect be required by the state to be bonded/insured - There is also the option to go after them - Again, just because Smokey has a title does not mean that he owns the car - The current title is not in his name - |
SirAndy |
Jul 2 2007, 04:43 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,854 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
Car left illegally on California streets with Oregon plates and not properly registered. and you would know that for certain how exactly? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) lay down the crack pipe and slowly step away from that crystal ball ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Andy |
Brian Mifsud |
Jul 2 2007, 04:45 PM
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Mechanical Engineer Group: Members Posts: 981 Joined: 3-March 03 From: Penngrove, CA Member No.: 384 Region Association: None |
Shouldn't we "armchair" detective be tracking down Salayfo Smith as the first "buyer" after it was stolen?
(google shows nothing). (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
SirAndy |
Jul 2 2007, 04:48 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,854 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
Shouldn't we "armchair" detective be tracking down Salayfo Smith as the first "buyer" after it was stolen? (google shows nothing). (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) yes, but "King Oruruo" may remember who he bought the car from ... 2nd in line could be good enough. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool_shades.gif) Andy |
ammason |
Jul 2 2007, 04:49 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 88 Joined: 14-March 05 From: Sunny Honolulu Member No.: 3,758 Region Association: Hawaii |
Now the seller is offering to sell the car back to me for $1000 more saying: "This way, I make a little, you make a little and you get your car back." Sheesh. Sounds like a good compromise to me. He should make some money on the car. He bought it legally with valid california title. Why not step up and make the transaction? I don't agree that he should make any money. If that's your opinion than we disagree and that's OK. My sense of ethics says that if you find something that doesn't belong to you, you give it back. If he found my car, then the ethical thing would be to give it back in exchange for any money he'd put into it. That's what I'd offered. Anything other than that just seems exploitive. Aaron |
SirAndy |
Jul 2 2007, 04:51 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,854 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
Salayfo Smith (google shows nothing) google doesn't, but peoplefinder does! SMITH, SALAYFO S, OAKLAND, CA, AGE 60 http://www.peoplefinders.com/Summary.asp?l...p;x=31&y=12 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) Andy |
smokey |
Jul 2 2007, 04:53 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 533 Joined: 15-June 07 From: Freedom Ca Member No.: 7,816 Region Association: None |
Sounds like a piss-poor compromise to me. A man's property was stolen... that property has resurfaced. Since he wasn't compensated by insurance, he deserves to have it returned. Let "Smokey" take it up with the guy HE bought the car from. Sounds like a "man" abandoned his vehicle. Car left illegally on California streets with Oregon plates and not properly registered. It may have or may have not been stolen. Just because car was reported as stolen doesnt mean it was. Smokey bought the car with Valid California title. He isnt obligated to do anything legally or morally. Finally! Thanks Man! |
ammason |
Jul 2 2007, 04:55 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 88 Joined: 14-March 05 From: Sunny Honolulu Member No.: 3,758 Region Association: Hawaii |
As of a week ago I'm also in the process of tracking down Salayfo Smith. I've tried calling all the numbers and have asked friends in Oakland to go knock on the doors. It's definitely the guy as the 35th st. address is the one that the car was registered to.
$9.95 on peoplefinder.com gets this: Past addresses: 925 90th Ave , OAKLAND, CA 94603 8731 Mountain Blvd , OAKLAND, CA 94605 8761 Mountain Blvd , OAKLAND, CA 94605 709 35th St , OAKLAND, CA 94609 (this is the one it was registered to) 1923 90th Ave , OAKLAND, CA 94603 6717 Mokelumne Ave , OAKLAND, CA 94605 DOB: 09/01/1946 Past phone numbers: (510) 430-3037 (510) 553-0337 652-3397 (510) 654-3602 None of this, however, has any bearing on my dealings with the current owner. |
grantsfo |
Jul 2 2007, 04:56 PM
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Arrrrhhhh! Group: Members Posts: 4,327 Joined: 16-March 03 Member No.: 433 Region Association: None |
Car left illegally on California streets with Oregon plates and not properly registered. and you would know that for certain how exactly? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) lay down the crack pipe and slowly step away from that crystal ball ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Andy I'm pretty sure if you read all past posts it is stated by the "A" man himself. Both sides of this story are so full of holes that I would go with legal ownership if I were a judge. ..and you know we dont use crack in Santa Cruz mountains. I have stepped away from my fortune telling cards. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
ammason |
Jul 2 2007, 05:01 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 88 Joined: 14-March 05 From: Sunny Honolulu Member No.: 3,758 Region Association: Hawaii |
Also, I've made it clear that I didn't leave it on the street: I left it in the care of a friend who parked it on the street across from his house. It had Oregon plates on it because I bought it from CAMP914 in Portland, Oregon. I registered it in CA as soon as I brought it down, but I liked the way the Oregon plates looked (and they kept me from getting at least one speeding ticket from a CHP who didn't want to deal with out-of-state paperwork) and since they were still valid I left them on.
I did the same thing with my Caddy - the license plate said "VEY ZMER" and hadn't been registered since 1987, but all the paperwork on that car was up to date and it wasn't until I got to Louisianna, after being pulled over a few times, that a cop asked me to change the plates. |
ammason |
Jul 2 2007, 05:05 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 88 Joined: 14-March 05 From: Sunny Honolulu Member No.: 3,758 Region Association: Hawaii |
I'm pretty sure if you read all past posts it is stated by the "A" man himself. Both sides of this story are so full of holes that I would go with legal ownership if I were a judge. ..and you know we dont use crack in Santa Cruz mountains. I have stepped away from my fortune telling cards. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) If there are any holes in the story you need patched up, just ask. I think the series of events is pretty cut and dry, but there's ambiguity as to who's currently responsible. |
smokey |
Jul 2 2007, 05:05 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 533 Joined: 15-June 07 From: Freedom Ca Member No.: 7,816 Region Association: None |
As of a week ago I'm also in the process of tracking down Salayfo Smith. I've tried calling all the numbers and have asked friends in Oakland to go knock on the doors. It's definitely the guy as the 35th st. address is the one that the car was registered to. $9.95 on peoplefinder.com gets this: Past addresses: 925 90th Ave , OAKLAND, CA 94603 8731 Mountain Blvd , OAKLAND, CA 94605 8761 Mountain Blvd , OAKLAND, CA 94605 709 35th St , OAKLAND, CA 94609 (this is the one it was registered to) 1923 90th Ave , OAKLAND, CA 94603 6717 Mokelumne Ave , OAKLAND, CA 94605 DOB: 09/01/1946 Past phone numbers: (510) 430-3037 (510) 553-0337 652-3397 (510) 654-3602 None of this, however, has any bearing on my dealings with the current owner. Gee why were you NOT in the process to get all your documents together to proof and get over to Cali to resolve Your problem! Surf to good on the Islands? I mean really man! Come clean with what the cops told you! |
Rusty |
Jul 2 2007, 05:09 PM
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Wanted: Engine case GA003709 Group: Admin Posts: 7,952 Joined: 24-December 02 From: North Alabama Member No.: 6 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
Gee why were you NOT in the process to get all your documents together to proof and get over to Cali to resolve Your problem! Surf to good on the Islands? I mean really man! Come clean with what the cops told you! While the spell checking is marginally better and punctuation still non-existant... did he actually say "Cali"? Retro might be back... but there are still limits! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif) |
smokey |
Jul 2 2007, 05:10 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 533 Joined: 15-June 07 From: Freedom Ca Member No.: 7,816 Region Association: None |
Also, I've made it clear that I didn't leave it on the street: I left it in the care of a friend who parked it on the street across from his house. It had Oregon plates on it because I bought it from CAMP914 in Portland, Oregon. I registered it in CA as soon as I brought it down, but I liked the way the Oregon plates looked (and they kept me from getting at least one speeding ticket from a CHP who didn't want to deal with out-of-state paperwork) and since they were still valid I left them on. I did the same thing with my Caddy - the license plate said "VEY ZMER" and hadn't been registered since 1987, but all the paperwork on that car was up to date and it wasn't until I got to Louisianna, after being pulled over a few times, that a cop asked me to change the plates. So you are admitting that the Cops or Tow Company, Lien Company did not notifiy you that the car was being liened because the Oregon plate was a different person. Therefore they sent a lien letter out to that person, not you. And this is because you liked the way the plate LOOKED? Are you kidding me? |
grantsfo |
Jul 2 2007, 05:13 PM
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Arrrrhhhh! Group: Members Posts: 4,327 Joined: 16-March 03 Member No.: 433 Region Association: None |
Also, I've made it clear that I didn't leave it on the street: I left it in the care of a friend who parked it on the street across from his house. It had Oregon plates on it because I bought it from CAMP914 in Portland, Oregon. I registered it in CA as soon as I brought it down, but I liked the way the Oregon plates looked (and they kept me from getting at least one speeding ticket from a CHP who didn't want to deal with out-of-state paperwork) and since they were still valid I left them on. I did the same thing with my Caddy - the license plate said "VEY ZMER" and hadn't been registered since 1987, but all the paperwork on that car was up to date and it wasn't until I got to Louisianna, after being pulled over a few times, that a cop asked me to change the plates. If you want to prove your case on 914world Court then scan that California Registration for all to see. Leaving Oregon plates on the car is an illegal activity which makes you suspect. I moved from Oregon to California and changed my plates according to California DMV code. Still sounds like you abandoned the car and it was likely towed once before and sold off when you were out of the country. Maybe tow company didnt do proper paperwork or do it legally, but that sounds likely. Judge K |
Rusty |
Jul 2 2007, 05:14 PM
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Wanted: Engine case GA003709 Group: Admin Posts: 7,952 Joined: 24-December 02 From: North Alabama Member No.: 6 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
Sounds remarkably similar to comments we made about a certain prototype, Grant.
Some of us have learned... some... not so much. |
smokey |
Jul 2 2007, 05:22 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 533 Joined: 15-June 07 From: Freedom Ca Member No.: 7,816 Region Association: None |
Gee why were you NOT in the process to get all your documents together to proof and get over to Cali to resolve Your problem! Surf to good on the Islands? I mean really man! Come clean with what the cops told you! While the spell checking is marginally better and punctuation still non-existant... did he actually say "Cali"? Retro might be back... but there are still limits! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif) Your the one is Alabama! Got to love A/C for 4 straight months! |
ammason |
Jul 2 2007, 05:22 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 88 Joined: 14-March 05 From: Sunny Honolulu Member No.: 3,758 Region Association: Hawaii |
So you are admitting that the Cops or Tow Company, Lien Company did not notifiy you that the car was being liened because the Oregon plate was a different person. Therefore they sent a lien letter out to that person, not you. And this is because you liked the way the plate LOOKED? Are you kidding me? When I registered the stolen vehicle report I gave them the Oregon plates, the CA plates, and the CA registration information. Obviously this was enough because they registered the car as a stolen vehicle and it was picked up by the CHP as such. The problem is that when the CHP picked it up, they didn't go to the SV report, they looked to the current DMV registrant, which wouldn't have been me under any circumstance since it had been re-registered twice. |
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