The REALLY OFFICIAL Degreeoff resto/convert/racer thread, NEW PARTS!! Options

[degreeoff]

BTW I just weighed my ride today with 1/2 tank and 14qts oil it was 1960 +(-) 20 lbs!!! pretty good with all REAL glass in the car.

[degreeoff]

Well its been a while folks I realize.

The skinny and FAT! is this @ my last autoX the guru of track planning and TTOD was following me up toi the course for a breif time. Once there he informs me that the car is smoking and blowing blue smoke........well the weekend after this event I was scheduled to truck my ass a car trailer and my girl up to watkins glen for my first DE w/PCA.....so I ask am I going to be black flagged for this. He states that I may and said he'd keep an eye on my throughout the day to see if it got worse.

Well I am now running 245/50 R compond tires on the ride to wear em in a bit and on my first run I hear a healthy CLUNK and finish my pass. After coming to a stop I ask if he saw smoke or not and he said no......it looked good and so I am thinking GREAT! (it should be noted that before the day started I also had another guru of 911 land come up and check out the ride and he looked at my home tune on the crankfire unit and said I was retarded.....:-P way too much and recomended I up the initial a fair bit, car ran like a scat rat first pass BTW)

I also had not been able to get my rickity old (68) carbs to sync and run right (always rich or alway lean and no in between (many many jets later and a carb guru as well!)

Well back to the pit line I go and notice a wierd smell....like burning rubber? I think wtf? as I get in and take it out of gear to roll down the line I notice the car will not roll..........SO having had a simalar issue WAY back when I first did a rough alignment I thought maybe a tire had worked over a bit and started rubbing the fender. SURE NUFF! BAD too so bad I could not do a fix there and hitched a ride back to my house from Matt to get my van and trailer. I remember while doing my alignment at the shop we damn near run out of travel for toe in on the RR and also saw a bit of looseness in the inner ear hole so I am thinking that the arm is moving around in the inner ear hole and no amoount of tightening will fix it.

Well I am fed up! I have had enough and dumped a shitload of time and $$$ into her and was like SCREW this and parked it and spent the summer sailing (I didnt even look at the suspensuion until a week ago)


To summarize:

too much money and time in too short a period of time = unhappiness/fuck it/fatalism

in the meantime I was able to find just the right buyer for my IDS carbs to the tune of $2500 for just the carbs no linkage maniflds K&N etc so I sold em and got on the 3 month wait with PMO. They just came in after a 4 MONTH wait and a 2 week ups tour of the country, and now I just need to get the left side tall manifold that is 37/40 as opposed to the mismatch 37/46! and I should be able to crank her up again and either make the final DE @ Summit the last weekend of the month or do the Sterling suds and buds deal?

Oh did I mention I welded a litle bit of the hole on the ear only to realize that the outer mount had slipped due to SO MUCH FKIN sticky rubber?


Now if I can only rule out my theory of rings and cylinders that glazed over due to too much raw gas injected at first startup after rebuild....(damn crankfire issues) I will be in like flint!!!!

Wish me luck??!! and here is a little eye candy for the most expensive single car part buy of my LIFE!

[crash914]

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif) dude, that is some sweet porn.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif)

good luck, call if you need help....

[degreeoff]

Well an update......
1st Doc evil will be helping me install the new carrier bearings and GT TB DIFF!!! yeah baby....see you monday dude!

also new 225lb coilovers for the rear
also a new IR alt (thanks Clay)
New spacers to keep em rears from rubbin the R6 245/50s....


heads are done, new DC40 cams here and the Cylinders are on their way to millenium for renikasiling to my Ross pistons specs....car is almost together and should be good for the ECC...... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif)

a pic for fun...

[J P Stein]

My advice whether you want it or not.

Use Goetze rings
Use Brad Penn break in oil.
....oh, with new cams you need to have the old rocker arms re-surfaced....or get new ones.

No advice here, just a fact.. The only folks I know of that use Ross pistons are you & Motor Miester.....sorry, but true.

The Guard diff is killer, tho...... but real men install their own. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[degreeoff]

My advice whether you want it or not.
Use Goetze rings
Use Brad Penn break in oil.
....oh, with new cams you need to have the old rocker arms re-surfaced....or get new ones.

oops forgot to mention the rockers are on the way from EBS as are the Goetez rings......

My Shop guy...(Micheal Mount, Burtonsville machine shop) has spec'd them out (ross) and has givin a thumbs up..... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif)

[degreeoff]

BUT.......thank you JP for putting doubt in my mind as I now have JE's on the way......9.5:1....no goetz rings now though. JE has a proprietary size that ony comes with that piston set.....??

[J P Stein]

Sorry.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

IIRC....and you'd better check this, rings come in thickness & diameter.
The thicknesses are 2,2,3 or 2,2,4 ...the numbers being in millimeters. IIRC, (again)
the Goetze are 2,2, 4. Sixnotfour knows this fer sure. I don't know what rings JE supplies with their pistons.....but I suspect some Deves style.

[Dr Evil]

Oh man, you should not have ordered JE pistons as you cant use Goetze rings with them. Damnit (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

[J P Stein]

According to my guru you can order Goetze rings with your JE pistons. In fact he says Goetze rings are a must for Nikasil cyls. In the negative sense, I have a shot set of cyls to prove that.

[degreeoff]

hey JP the rings are a very odd size (2.8mm oil rings) that can ONLY be used with the JE 90mm.....but they are designed for the Nikasil cylinders as per the website of JE.....

My machinist says he asks for pistons that are within .002" and thats what they send him.....He is also getting the cylinders done per those specs, I should be GTG......


LSD new top end ....this a thing will SCREAM!

Ya Doc, its a bummer but what are you going to do? This is the last $$ I am going to spend for a good while I think....I hope.....or I will sell it!

[brant]

what kind of scale did you use for car weight that would be +/- 20lbs...?

I still hold the belief that scales set up for accuracy in a completely different weight range (ie: 15,000lb trucks) struggle to be very accurate with light cars outside of their operating range.

[ws91420]

what kind of scale did you use for car weight that would be +/- 20lbs...?

I still hold the belief that scales set up for accuracy in a completely different weight range (ie: 15,000lb trucks) struggle to be very accurate with light cars outside of their operating range.

Truck stop scales have a +/- 20 lb error margin and is what conforms to federal standards for weighing trucks.

[J P Stein]

I have found that SCCA solo scales vary +/- 10 lbs. That is no big deal but when you set up, give yourself some room. It's better to be 10-20 lbs overweight per their scales rather than 2 lbs under(DSQ). You are weighed immediately after your last run of each day.

[brant]

what kind of scale did you use for car weight that would be +/- 20lbs...?

I still hold the belief that scales set up for accuracy in a completely different weight range (ie: 15,000lb trucks) struggle to be very accurate with light cars outside of their operating range.

Truck stop scales have a +/- 20 lb error margin and is what conforms to federal standards for weighing trucks.

I hold a belief that scales calibrated to measure 10ton are not within their prime opperating range at 2000lbs... (not in their prime accuracy)
I know not everyone agree's with this though

[degreeoff]

on the wieght bit it was at a landfill.......truck only scales wouldnt even get me I was too light....I am guessing that it was pretty close though as I am striped interior (minus some very light seats and dash as well as all FG with early doors)

Josh

[brp986s]

You can get your pistons re-grooved to your specs. I agree with JP re: goetze rings. They are OE. I bought Deves rings once. I couldn't believe the amount of force it took to compress the oil scraper ring. I thought somehow I had done something wrong. I brought them to a Porsche engine builder who referred to them as "hone masters". That was 15 years ago. Maybe things have changed in the meantime. Goetze oil rings can be easily compressed with your fingers.

[brant]

on the wieght bit it was at a landfill.......truck only scales wouldnt even get me I was too light....I am guessing that it was pretty close though as I am striped interior (minus some very light seats and dash as well as all FG with early doors)

Josh

with window glass, heavy yoko's, the -6 lump, the steel front cross member and the banana muffler.... I would of guessed closer to 2150
those early doors with glass come in around 100lbs
and most 6's with actual turn signals and street attire come in around 2200-2300

good job