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Targa Tops, The differences between early and late |
PRS914-6 |
Jun 20 2007, 09:52 PM
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Excellence Magazine Project 914 3.6 Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,278 Joined: 20-May 06 From: Central California Member No.: 6,031 Region Association: None |
The differences between the early (pre 73) and later Targa tops is shown below. The most significant difference is the step where the window seals attach. I suspect due to the different windows used in the 73 up cars. I'm checking that out now. The step is noticeably taller or hangs lower on the later tops.
Other differences are shown but I suspect they won't have a major impact. Thanks for those at WCR who volunteered their tops for the inspection |
PRS914-6 |
Jun 20 2007, 10:00 PM
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PRS914-6 |
Jun 20 2007, 10:02 PM
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SirAndy |
Jun 20 2007, 10:02 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,889 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
1st!
damm, that's one ugly late top you got there ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool_shades.gif) wanna trade? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Andy |
PRS914-6 |
Jun 20 2007, 11:29 PM
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Excellence Magazine Project 914 3.6 Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,278 Joined: 20-May 06 From: Central California Member No.: 6,031 Region Association: None |
1st! damm, that's one ugly late top you got there ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool_shades.gif) wanna trade? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Andy Yep, like the owners sunburned head, it should have been covered up..... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) |
Slick914 |
Feb 15 2009, 12:59 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 236 Joined: 10-June 07 From: Lorain, OH Member No.: 7,802 |
This is good information. Maybe it would be better suited in the originality forum where it might be easier to find?
My 73 has an early top according to the info here. Is it possible that my 73 came with the early top or is it certain that it was replaced at some point in time? It seams to fit pretty good. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) |
dw914er |
Feb 15 2009, 01:11 PM
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Planning Cities Group: Members Posts: 2,364 Joined: 1-March 08 From: Yucaipa, CA Member No.: 8,763 Region Association: Southern California |
This is good information. Maybe it would be better suited in the originality forum where it might be easier to find? My 73 has an early top according to the info here. Is it possible that my 73 came with the early top or is it certain that it was replaced at some point in time? It seams to fit pretty good. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) im pretty sure my 73 has an early top too... if thats the case then thats the way my car came. |
SirAndy |
Feb 15 2009, 03:42 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,889 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
This is good information. Maybe it would be better suited in the originality forum where it might be easier to find? My 73 has an early top according to the info here. Is it possible that my 73 came with the early top or is it certain that it was replaced at some point in time? It seams to fit pretty good. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) im pretty sure my 73 has an early top too... if thats the case then thats the way my car came. '73 was a transition year. If you have a '73 with a early top, i suspect you also have the early windows and mechanism, as they go together. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) Andy |
dw914er |
Feb 15 2009, 03:58 PM
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Planning Cities Group: Members Posts: 2,364 Joined: 1-March 08 From: Yucaipa, CA Member No.: 8,763 Region Association: Southern California |
This is good information. Maybe it would be better suited in the originality forum where it might be easier to find? My 73 has an early top according to the info here. Is it possible that my 73 came with the early top or is it certain that it was replaced at some point in time? It seams to fit pretty good. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) im pretty sure my 73 has an early top too... if thats the case then thats the way my car came. '73 was a transition year. If you have a '73 with a early top, i suspect you also have the early windows and mechanism, as they go together. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) Andy which month was the turn around? My car was built july 73, so I suspect that august+ was the later then? |
rascobo |
Feb 15 2009, 04:29 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 203 Joined: 26-July 07 From: Portland,OR. Member No.: 7,948 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
This is good information. Maybe it would be better suited in the originality forum where it might be easier to find? My 73 has an early top according to the info here. Is it possible that my 73 came with the early top or is it certain that it was replaced at some point in time? It seams to fit pretty good. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) im pretty sure my 73 has an early top too... if thats the case then thats the way my car came. '73 was a transition year. If you have a '73 with a early top, i suspect you also have the early windows and mechanism, as they go together. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) Andy which month was the turn around? My car was built july 73, so I suspect that august+ was the later then? Add My '73 to the others with an early top, but definately the late model window mechanism. I've don't believe any '73s came with early windows, so it seems unlikely so many '73s would be running around with the early tops if they were incompatible. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) (right back at Ya!) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) Scott |
SirAndy |
Feb 15 2009, 04:39 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,889 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
would be running around with the early tops if they were incompatible. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) (right back at Ya!) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) I've got a late top and early windows and it does not seal right at all. The top should match the windows ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) Andy PS: Maybe the transition year was '72, can't remember. Somewhere in there they switched windows and tops ... |
PRS914-6 |
Feb 15 2009, 04:52 PM
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Excellence Magazine Project 914 3.6 Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,278 Joined: 20-May 06 From: Central California Member No.: 6,031 Region Association: None |
.....and there are seal changes as well. Hey Andy, didn't I give you a early top? Or was it a late?
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computers4kids |
May 9 2009, 09:06 AM
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Any yet another difference...the height of the rubber bumper
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-4253-1241844904.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-4253-1241844925.jpg) |
Phoenix-MN |
Sep 17 2013, 05:50 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 927 Joined: 23-January 04 From: ST. Bonifacius,MN Member No.: 1,590 |
Any yet another difference...the height of the rubber bumper (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-4253-1241844904.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-4253-1241844925.jpg) Resurrecting (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) When using a late roof on an early car should the early rubber stops be switched over to the late roof? (I have 74 doors on my '71) Thanks Paul |
Krieger |
May 26 2014, 07:13 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,763 Joined: 24-May 04 From: Santa Rosa CA Member No.: 2,104 Region Association: None |
Any yet another difference...the height of the rubber bumper (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-4253-1241844904.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-4253-1241844925.jpg) So which rubber block is early/late? |
ripper911 |
May 26 2014, 07:19 PM
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corde pulsum tangite Group: Members Posts: 2,920 Joined: 25-April 10 From: Powder Springs, GA Member No.: 11,654 Region Association: South East States |
Looks like it's early on left and later on right.
If I'm not mistaken. |
kkid |
May 26 2014, 10:16 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 343 Joined: 18-December 07 From: Oakland, CA Member No.: 8,483 Region Association: Northern California |
What about the weight difference?
Mine is insanely heavy to compare to one of friend's one. |
Larmo63 |
May 26 2014, 10:24 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,267 Joined: 3-March 14 From: San Clemente, Ca Member No.: 17,068 Region Association: Southern California |
Early doors are screw type and late doors are scissor type? Now I gotta go check my top too....
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dlkawashima |
May 26 2014, 11:47 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 9,749 Joined: 1-October 10 From: San Jose Member No.: 12,234 Region Association: Northern California |
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euro911 |
Aug 18 2015, 01:35 AM
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Retired & living the dream. God help me if I wake up! Group: Members Posts: 8,858 Joined: 2-December 06 From: So.Cal. & No.AZ (USA) Member No.: 7,300 Region Association: Southern California |
I had heard that there were two different types, but never did check into it.
I have two spare tops, but only have one in front of me at the moment. From what I just read, it appears to be an early one. I'm pretty sure our '71 has the correct (early) top, being that it was purchased from the original owner, but this thread has me wondering about the tops for our '75. If a PO installed a tail shifter transaxle in this car, as well as some other questionable modifications and repairs (most of which I've rectified), it's quite possible it may have the wrong top(s) too (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) The smooth black top makes a lot of squeaking noises when driving on bumpy roads, even with a new rear seal. If I push up on the rear section, the squeaking stops. I don't remember if the tan (summer) top squeaks, but it leaked like a sieve in moderate to hard rain (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pat.gif) Will be checking the other tops soon (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) |
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