914 Rear Fog Lamp Installation with details & Photo's, Only winning cars have them, BLing, Bling. Options

[Eric_Shea]

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[davep]

Then I guess there is only a market for four harnesses until and unless you make up more brackets. Everything else is available at the present time. Perhaps once a few cars are completed and the results shown we might get more interest. We still have to ensure that we know exactly how to install everything. There are, what, two cars that we know of with factory installed lights?

[TJB/914]

Then I guess there is only a market for four harnesses until and unless you make up more brackets. Everything else is available at the present time. Perhaps once a few cars are completed and the results shown we might get more interest. We still have to ensure that we know exactly how to install everything. There are, what, two cars that we know of with factory installed lights?

I was hoping to see a committment of (6) harnesses for Jeff. I am sure this accessory will grow in demand as interest develops.

Tom

[Eric_Shea]

Well as this winds down I can tell you the problem is the unobtainable bracket. I spent a couple hundred bucks back and forth getting it right. I'm confident that now that we have a pattern and these guys know the holes are critical it would go smoother but... that definately stalls things.

Inner bracket - Special Order, available
Outer bracket - NLA
Light - Special order 911 part, available
Harness - Pending but if Jeff makes it it will be as good as the original

While it is a cool factory accessory, it will take some coin that most 914 owners aren't willing to readily spend.

I really love the way this has played out. Even Pat should be proud of the detail work that went in to making it "right".

[TJB/914]

Well as this winds down I can tell you the problem is the unobtainable bracket. I spent a couple hundred bucks back and forth getting it right. I'm confident that now that we have a pattern and these guys know the holes are critical it would go smoother but... that definately stalls things.

Inner bracket - Special Order, available
Outer bracket - NLA
Light - Special order 911 part, available
Harness - Pending but if Jeff makes it it will be as good as the original

While it is a cool factory accessory, it will take some coin that most 914 owners aren't willing to readily spend.

I really love the way this has played out. Even Pat should be proud of the detail work that went in to making it "right".

Jeff,

I got my orig. bracket back today.

Good review of available parts. I suggest any one interested should order the Inner bracket. It comes out of Germany, they are only about $4.00 bucks, but shipping runs about $20.00 plus for one or more. I got an extra one because of shipping costs. My spare is going to be Pat's birthday gift when he becomes a senior citizen. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stirthepot.gif)

Factory accessory's are fun to collect & makes your 914 stand out during judging.

Tom

[davep]

Well as this winds down I can tell you the problem is the unobtainable bracket.
Light - Special order 911 part, available

I agree fully on the bracket.
The light I found was stocked at Pelican, but the bulb is a separate part and must be added to the order.
They can also get the inner bracket, but be aware of the extra charge to get it from Germany.

Someone COULD get Eric to make a supply of outer brackets, get Jeff to make some harnesses, and order the remaining parts from Pelican to make up a complete kit. I cannot afford to do so at this time, but I think that with a bit of marketing perhaps up to 10 kits could be sold. Maybe George at AA might be interested enough to invest in some kits. IF these kits could be assembled, THEN the cost of development borne by Eric and Jeff could be spread a little thinner than over just 3 pieces.

[Pat Garvey]

Well as this winds down I can tell you the problem is the unobtainable bracket. I spent a couple hundred bucks back and forth getting it right. I'm confident that now that we have a pattern and these guys know the holes are critical it would go smoother but... that definately stalls things.

Inner bracket - Special Order, available
Outer bracket - NLA
Light - Special order 911 part, available
Harness - Pending but if Jeff makes it it will be as good as the original

While it is a cool factory accessory, it will take some coin that most 914 owners aren't willing to readily spend.

I really love the way this has played out. Even Pat should be proud of the detail work that went in to making it "right".

Jeff,

I got my orig. bracket back today.

Good review of available parts. I suggest any one interested should order the Inner bracket. It comes out of Germany, they are only about $4.00 bucks, but shipping runs about $20.00 plus for one or more. I got an extra one because of shipping costs. My spare is going to be Pat's birthday gift when he becomes a senior citizen. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stirthepot.gif)

Factory accessory's are fun to collect & makes your 914 stand out during judging.

Tom

Tom,

Gee, thanks for the thought! But....that would mean I'd have to "drill". Oh, the horror!

Besides, and no slam intended, it looks like a pimple on the butt of a 914!

Sorry & no intentional negatives, but it just looks wrong.

Then again, I'm going back to chrome wheels & fat tires. So, who am I to to comment?
Pat

[eg914]

Jeff,

Do you have a feel for the cost of the harnesses? If you add one more for me?
My car is NOT show car material, but rather a daily driver. I wanted the rear fog light for my own peace of mind on those foggy mornings. Whether I would buy the harness will be a balance of cost vs. convenience (sorry I am cheap, but in your favor I am also VERY lazy).

Thanks

[Eric_Shea]

no intentional negatives, but it just looks wrong

Sounds like a 914 to me... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol3.gif)

Perfect fit!

[JeffBowlsby]

Here are the rear foglight harness details:

Mike Scott kindly lent me his OEM rear fog harness as a guide. There are two wires, a brown and white/green stripe, with terminations, in a durable casing. Its the longest casing I have ever had to stuff thin flexible wires through, but I think I have a couple ideas that should work. All the parts are obtainable and most of them I use in the other harnesses anyway so when I buy in bulk, I can use these items on my other harnesses and save costs for everyone. The completed harness will look and perform as good as or better than OEM. The one special item is the white green stripe wire and it is special order with a 1000 LF minimum. Ouch. Each harness only needs about 20 feet of this wire...so I will have a bunch left over, with no other use in sight, it is the biggest cost of this harness. Amortizing these costs here is the cost per harness, turnkey, not including shipping to you which is just charged at cost:

$110 each = 4 harnesses for Dave, Tom, Eric and JASFSMITH
$97 each = 6 harnesses
$86 each = 10 or more harnesses

The best way to make this happen would be for someone to step up and buy all the components for a run of complete rear fogs and package them as a kit. Ebay buyers would go nutz and there would be rear fogs on every 914 from coast to coast...Still need to figure out the switching condition.

Paypal or other payment accepted, I would plan to do a run on the harnesses and build them all at the same time with a group order, but its not essential. Please confirm your interest.

[TJB/914]

Here are the rear foglight harness details:

Mike Scott kindly lent me his OEM rear fog harness as a guide. There are two wires, a brown and white/green stripe, with terminations, in a durable casing. Its the longest casing I have ever had to stuff thin flexible wires through, but I think I have a couple ideas that should work. All the parts are obtainable and most of them I use in the other harnesses anyway so when I buy in bulk, I can use these items on my other harnesses and save costs for everyone. The completed harness will look and perform as good as or better than OEM. The one special item is the white green stripe wire and it is special order with a 1000 LF minimum. Ouch. Each harness only needs about 20 feet of this wire...so I will have a bunch left over, with no other use in sight, it is the biggest cost of this harness. Amortizing these costs here is the cost per harness, turnkey, not including shipping to you which is just charged at cost:

$110 each = 4 harnesses for Dave, Tom, Eric and JASFSMITH
$97 each = 6 harnesses
$86 each = 10 or more harnesses

The best way to make this happen would be for someone to step up and buy all the components for a run of complete rear fogs and package them as a kit. Ebay buyers would go nutz and there would be rear fogs on every 914 from coast to coast...Still need to figure out the switching condition.

Paypal or other payment accepted, I would plan to do a run on the harnesses and build them all at the same time with a group order, but its not essential. Please confirm your interest.

Jeff,

I am in as soon as it's final & I'll send the money when you set the final price.

Thanks for performing this service.

Tom

[Pat Garvey]

Well as this winds down I can tell you the problem is the unobtainable bracket. I spent a couple hundred bucks back and forth getting it right. I'm confident that now that we have a pattern and these guys know the holes are critical it would go smoother but... that definately stalls things.

Inner bracket - Special Order, available
Outer bracket - NLA
Light - Special order 911 part, available
Harness - Pending but if Jeff makes it it will be as good as the original

While it is a cool factory accessory, it will take some coin that most 914 owners aren't willing to readily spend.

I really love the way this has played out. Even Pat should be proud of the detail work that went in to making it "right".

That I am! Pimple on the butt & all, you guys are driven!

Not for me, but righteous!

Pat

[Eric_Shea]

Ouch. Each harness only needs about 20 feet of this wire...so I will have a bunch left over, with no other use in sight, it is the biggest cost of this harness.

Ouch is right... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

I guess I'm in but that's 23% of my oil hard line budget. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Question: Is this listed on the factory schematics? What I'm getting at is; Is there another wire, say green with a white stripe that would work and be acceptable? Just opening the floor for options, if others want to get the white with green etc. I'll be a part of the buy.

$6.00 per foot is hard to swallow... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

[Pat Garvey]

Ouch. Each harness only needs about 20 feet of this wire...so I will have a bunch left over, with no other use in sight, it is the biggest cost of this harness.

Ouch is right... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

I guess I'm in but that's 23% of my oil hard line budget. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Question: Is this listed on the factory schematics? What I'm getting at is; Is there another wire, say green with a white stripe that would work and be acceptable? Just opening the floor for options, if others want to get the white with green etc. I'll be a part of the buy.

$6.00 per foot is hard to swallow... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Well, let's see! You'll have, what, 1-2 visible inches of the wire (please correct me if I'm wrong). Other than "you four", who will know the difference in the wire striping? I wouldn't!

Oh, I forgot - there's the "originality" factor. Except for jafsmith's Swiss car, I don't understand!? Wait, I don't understand that either, since it should be part of the COA or CARDEX info for the car.

What am I missing here??????

Pat

[eg914]

Jeff,

Sorry to all involved, but I am going to pass on the wire harness. $100 +or- is about 3 weeks of gas for my commute. If I was putting the rear fog on a show car I would be in. The CSOB in me is winning out on this one.

[JeffBowlsby]

I had focused on the idea that the color coding was important...maybe its not. Pats right, you wouldn't see much of it, it is all in casing except the ends for connections.

Would there be greater interest if it was just a white wire, no stripe...to save some moola?

With a 4 harness minimum commitment, I could make them for $87 ea. to break even (even the white/no stripe wire is not something I normally use, its a larger gage, but I don't have to get 1000LF of it for the special striping).

LMK.

[Eric_Shea]

Can you splice in the 4" of white/green I have? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I don't care about the colors. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[davep]

I guess I'll side with Eric. Plain white wire would be suitable. We could draw our own green lines if we wanted I suppose.

[TJB/914]

Jeff & others,

I am in for whatever is decided.

Thanks Jeff for everything. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

Tom

[Pat Garvey]

You are making the right decision! Reduce the cost!
Originality, as mych as I love it, an be absurdly expensive. Not only that, it WILL be lost on the future generations of owners.

Have your fun. Defy anyone to judge its oriinality. It's a rear fog for Christ's sake!

You know that i don't care for it, but I most certainly appreciate what you guys have done to make this work.