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BahnBrenner914
post Jul 3 2007, 08:05 PM
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Well I bought the muriatic acid and I've got a can of dad's old nuts (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) , the uncoated, hardened steel ones. So I'm going to do my rattle nut dance (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mueba.gif) (with the tank dry) and see how much (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stromberg.gif) that gets out, I like the chain idea too (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) . Then I'll use the acid/water (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stirthepot.gif) to rinse and get out all the crap and see what it looks like. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool_shades.gif)

Another thing, what about the little strainer sock? Can I get another, do I need to clean it (non-buyable) or what?
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post Jul 3 2007, 08:19 PM
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I've bought the sock at a bug shop before. But that was a couple years ago. Check availability before trashing. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Jul 3 2007, 09:24 PM
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Excuse me for butting in here, but where does one obtain POR-15? I'm dealing with an off topic gas tank, and I tried looking for information on POR-15 here. but nothing came up on a search. I asked at one auto parts store and they were not familiar with it. And you pour this stuff in the tank and slosh it around and it seals the metal? Does it seal pin hole rust through too? Thanks for any information.
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post Jul 3 2007, 09:27 PM
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http://www.por15.com (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Jul 3 2007, 09:58 PM
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Thank you, McMark. I will study that site.
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post Jul 3 2007, 10:19 PM
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QUOTE(Gint @ Jul 2 2007, 10:54 PM) *

Here we go again...

Take it to a radiator shop and spend $35 to have it boiled, or otherwise tanked with a suitable alternative. If you have a shop with an ultrasonic tank you won' t believe how good it looks when it comes back. They know their business and you won't torch your digits with acid.

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post Jul 3 2007, 11:12 PM
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QUOTE(BahnBrenner914 @ Jul 3 2007, 10:05 PM) *

Well I bought the muriatic acid...



Muriatic acid will burn you to the bone. It will blind you if even one drop gets in your eye(s). When you pour it on concrete (to remove oil stains), it causes the concrete to smoke.

I would seriously reconsider playing with this stuff.

And, if it does burn you, will you please post pics as a warning to others?

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post Jul 4 2007, 12:14 AM
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well I didn't (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blowup.gif) and I'm ok (i guess it was that chem lab last year that taught me not to mess with acid).

I put a bunch of nuts in there (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t1.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t1.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t1.gif) and did my dance (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dance.gif) and then I did a bath of diluted acid (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stirthepot.gif) and then a water rinse and then another acid (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stirthepot.gif) and another water rinse and then ran the shop-vac on blow to dry it all out and this is what it now looks like...


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post Jul 4 2007, 12:22 AM
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QUOTE(Danny_Ocean @ Jul 3 2007, 10:12 PM) *

QUOTE(BahnBrenner914 @ Jul 3 2007, 10:05 PM) *

Well I bought the muriatic acid...



Muriatic acid will burn you to the bone. It will blind you if even one drop gets in your eye(s). When you pour it on concrete (to remove oil stains), it causes the concrete to smoke.

I would seriously reconsider playing with this stuff.

And, if it does burn you, will you please post pics as a warning to others?

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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) The stuff that comes with the POR-15 tank Seal Kit is Phosphoric Acid, quite dilute too. Also available as Ospho from Tru-Value Hardware on special order, 4 gal minimum... Not quite so dilute.

Also, the POR tank kit contains a de-greaser and the afore-mentioned Metal Ready etchant plus Silver POR-15 in a can labled Tank Sealer. Be sure and save the "sealer" and use it as you would POR-15. I got most of the pint back after coating my ghia tank a few years ago, most of the silver went on various 914's after that. Even one rusty silver '71 that was left in the rain after being primered, not a sealing primer either! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) POR-15 hates sunlight, so now the silver spots have turned a lovely greenish. I might get around to getting it painted someday.
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post Jul 4 2007, 12:22 AM
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QUOTE(BahnBrenner914 @ Jul 4 2007, 02:14 AM) *

well I didn't (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blowup.gif) and I'm ok (i guess it was that chem lab last year that taught me not to mess with acid).

I put a bunch of nuts in there (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t1.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t1.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t1.gif) and did my dance (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dance.gif) and then I did a bath of diluted acid (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stirthepot.gif) and then a water rinse and then another acid (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stirthepot.gif) and another water rinse and then ran the shop-vac on blow to dry it all out and this is what it now looks like...

Still looks like crap, (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Jul 4 2007, 12:30 AM
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So more acid or nut dancing or what?
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post Jul 4 2007, 12:36 AM
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QUOTE(BahnBrenner914 @ Jul 4 2007, 02:30 AM) *

So more acid or nut dancing or what?


You must remove ALL traces of rust. Any rust left behind will continue to "grow".

As mentioned before, take it to a shop.
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post Jul 4 2007, 12:49 AM
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Let the acid sit in there for longer to get the stubborn bits. How long did you leave it in the first two times?
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post Jul 4 2007, 12:52 AM
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I did a fair bit of sloshing, but it was in there like 10 min, you suggesting more an overnight type deal?
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post Jul 4 2007, 01:15 AM
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Like I said, take it to a rad shop, pay the man $35-50, forget about all of the coating crap, paint/powder coat the exterior, fill it with gas and go for a drive.
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post Jul 4 2007, 01:20 AM
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QUOTE(Gint @ Jul 4 2007, 03:15 AM) *

Like I said, take it to a rad shop, pay the man $35-50, forget about all of the coating crap, paint/powder coat the exterior, fill it with gas and go for a drive.


Kids don't listen. They know everything. We all did the same sheet when we were young...screw adults. They don't know what they're talking about!

Then again, I didn't have access to free advice from the Internet in the '70's...

Let him shake, rattle & slosh. We'll be reading another post in a few months: Damn! Have to remove tank again!

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post Jul 4 2007, 01:33 AM
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QUOTE(Danny_Ocean @ Jul 4 2007, 12:20 AM) *

QUOTE(Gint @ Jul 4 2007, 03:15 AM) *

Like I said, take it to a rad shop, pay the man $35-50, forget about all of the coating crap, paint/powder coat the exterior, fill it with gas and go for a drive.


Kids don't listen. They know everything. We all did the same sheet when we were young...screw adults. They don't know what they're talking about!

Then again, I didn't have access to free advice from the Internet in the '70's...

Let him shake, rattle & slosh. We'll be reading another post in a few months: Damn! Have to remove tank again!

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That would be a good title for another volume of my threads, but I'll check out getting it hot-dipped or cleaned tomorrow morning. So it's all bare metal when I get it back? and I just paint the outside and leave the inside bare and use it like that?
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QUOTE(BahnBrenner914 @ Jul 4 2007, 03:33 AM) *

That would be a good title for another volume of my threads, but I'll check out getting it hot-dipped or cleaned tomorrow morning. So it's all bare metal when I get it back? and I just paint the outside and leave the inside bare and use it like that?



It will shine like a nickel in a goat's ass when you get it back. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/clap56.gif)

You can leave it bare, but sealing will ensure a long time before having to re-do.
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now you went and done it!

Miles is gonna come back now!!!

RUn!!!

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QUOTE(BahnBrenner914 @ Jul 4 2007, 12:33 AM) *
That would be a good title for another volume of my threads, but I'll check out getting it hot-dipped or cleaned tomorrow morning. So it's all bare metal when I get it back? and I just paint the outside and leave the inside bare and use it like that?


Yup. Opinions differ on coating the inside of a fuel tank. You can coat the inside if you wish. I never will and I've done a couple of 30+ year old tanks. Just let the rad shop do their job and then take care of the outside and you're done.
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