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post Jul 22 2007, 06:34 PM
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So, after having had the pleasure to drive this beautiful, unmolested, all original, 37k miles 914-6 today, i can't help but wonder if we should attempt to list all the differences between an early /6 and early /4 in terms of originality.

I believe it would be of tremendous help to have a list of things "to look for" when doing a PPI on such a time-capsule.

What do ya'all think?
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post Jul 22 2007, 06:40 PM
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i'll start ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

- it should have a flat /6, 2.0L motor (doh!)
- firewall center engine mount
- no /4 mounts
- factory oil-tank
- different relay board
- "hook" for the oil-line on drivers side rear long
- 911 style ignition switch and column for '70/'71 models
- *no* hole in the front trunk for the /4 air hose to the spare tire
- black "tar" around the front upper shock towers
- different windshield washer bottle
- electric washer pump
- real 5-lug axles
- "914-6" badge
- handthrottle in front of the shifter
- different throttle cable routing, using a tranny mounted pivot
- different paint code on the karman badge
- different VIN, starting with "914" (doh! again)
- no rain-tray under engine lid.
- Dash top has no center vent


- "dogbone" pass. side footrest (did early /4s have those too?) - Yes
- different center console (did early /4s have those too?) - Yes


what else?
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post Jul 22 2007, 07:30 PM
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Jul 22 2007, 08:40 PM) *

i'll start ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

- it should have a flat /6, 2.0L motor (doh!)
- firewall center engine mount
- no /4 mounts
- factory oil-tank
- different relay board
- "hook" for the oil-line on drivers side rear long
- 911 style ignition switch and column for '70/'71 models
- *no* hole in the front trunk for the /4 air hose to the spare tire
- black "tar" around the front upper shock towers
- different windshield washer bottle
- electric washer pump
- real 5-lug axles
- "914-6" badge
- handthrottle in front of the shifter
- different throttle cable routing, using a tranny mounted pivot
- different paint code on the karman badge
- different VIN, starting with "914" (doh! again)

- "dogbone" pass. side footrest (did early /4s have those too?)
- different center console (did early /4s have those too?)


what else?
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That crap is stock? I still have it w/ @ least 3 layers of paint on top of it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) . (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stromberg.gif) !
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post Jul 22 2007, 07:42 PM
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No plastic drip pan under engine cover.

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post Jul 22 2007, 07:49 PM
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Tool kit
Steel wheels - 6/10solts 4/8solts
Dash top no center vent
Headliner or not for the 6 or 4 ?
Bigger master brake cyl
Different center console (did early /4s have those too?) - yes

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post Jul 22 2007, 08:08 PM
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The pass side dogbones were an option on early fours.

Andy.....GREAT thread - way past due!
Pat

ps: what's that strange looking Schwartzeneger kinda 914 in the background of the photo? Hmmm?
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post Jul 22 2007, 09:39 PM
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QUOTE(orthobiz @ Jul 22 2007, 05:42 PM) *

No plastic drip pan under engine cover.


good one, i'll add it to the list ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumb3d.gif)
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post Jul 22 2007, 09:43 PM
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QUOTE(BS Chairman @ Jul 22 2007, 05:49 PM) *

Tool kit - what are the differences?
Steel wheels - 6/10solts 4/8solts - good call, anybody got pictures?
Dash top no center vent - added to the list
Headliner or not for the 6 or 4 ? - this car had headliner, so had my '70 /4
Bigger master brake cyl - dunno? anybody?
Different center console (did early /4s have those too?) - yes - ok, list updated
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post Jul 22 2007, 09:58 PM
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Jul 22 2007, 11:43 PM) *

Tool kit - what are the differences?


tool kit for the six from previous post. 65-70 911 tool kit w/ 914 towing eye added.


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post Jul 23 2007, 08:50 AM
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post Jul 23 2007, 09:38 AM
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QUOTE(BS Chairman @ Jul 22 2007, 05:49 PM) *


Headliner or not for the 6 or 4 ?

Gary


My '70/4, build date 01/1970, was delivered w/o the tethered footrest and did not have a headliner.

Another difference between the /4s and /6s.......the brakes!

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post Jul 23 2007, 12:03 PM
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Jul 22 2007, 08:40 PM) *

i'll start ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

- different center console (did early /4s have those too?) - Yes


what else?
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My "plain Jayne" '70 914-4 did not have a center console.

Neither the '4 or '6 had a headliner.
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QUOTE(Jasfsmith @ Jul 23 2007, 10:03 AM) *

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Jul 22 2007, 08:40 PM) *

i'll start ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

- different center console (did early /4s have those too?) - Yes


what else?
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My "plain Jayne" '70 914-4 did not have a center console.

Neither the '4 or '6 had a headliner.


My six had no headliner also, but I bought it in 1997 so who knows. Now Dr.914 told me at parade it was the way it came from factory! HELP!!! Who's right.

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post Jul 23 2007, 01:35 PM
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QUOTE(BS Chairman @ Jul 23 2007, 11:14 AM) *

QUOTE(Jasfsmith @ Jul 23 2007, 10:03 AM) *

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Jul 22 2007, 08:40 PM) *

i'll start ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

- different center console (did early /4s have those too?) - Yes


what else?
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My "plain Jayne" '70 914-4 did not have a center console.

Neither the '4 or '6 had a headliner.


My six had no headliner also, but I bought it in 1997 so who knows. Now Dr.914 told me at parade it was the way it came from factory! HELP!!! Who's right.

Gary

You are right. No headliner in the early sixes from the factory. Do not when it changed but all 71 and 72 sixes had a headliner installed
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post Jul 23 2007, 05:27 PM
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antenna = radio? What kind if I may ask?


BTW: post # 908 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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QUOTE(Johny Blackstain @ Jul 23 2007, 03:27 PM) *

antenna = radio? What kind if I may ask?


It appears that most early 914s, /4 or /6, had a radio/antenna installed by the dealer. I can't remember seing an original early car that didn't have a Hirschman antenna, if one was installed. I'd imagine that the P+A dealer would be more likely to put a Blaupunkt or Becker radio in a /6, as opposed to the dealer installed Motorola that came in my /4.

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QUOTE(1970 Neun vierzehn @ Jul 23 2007, 07:40 PM) *

It appears that most early 914s, /4 or /6, had a radio/antenna installed by the dealer. I can't remember seing an original early car that didn't have a Hirschman antenna, if one was installed. I'd imagine that the P+A dealer would be more likely to put a Blaupunkt or Becker radio in a /6, as opposed to the dealer installed Motorola that came in my /4.

Paul



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BTW: post # 909 for me (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


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You can't see them, but the 914-6 rear axles and CV joints have one more spline than the 914-4s do. (Not much use knowing this for a PPI though)

Rear brake caliper & handbrake is way different than the 914-4.
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Hi guys,

I have a serious question. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)

Can a late 1970 914-6 with a 0 after the 914 on the vin # and titled as a 1971 be converted to a factory 1971 M-471 option car????
Example: vin # 91404321?? (late#'s) and titled as 1971 be a real 1971???

Inquiring minds want to know, because I know of a 914-6 that's for sale??? Need answer ASAP.

Wolfgang are you interested?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

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QUOTE(Thomas J Bliznik @ Jul 25 2007, 05:22 AM) *

Hi guys,

I have a serious question. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)

Can a late 1970 914-6 with a 0 after the 914 on the vin # and titled as a 1971 be converted to a factory 1971 M-471 option car????
Example: vin # 91404321?? (late#'s) and titled as 1971 be a real 1971???

Inquiring minds want to know, because I know of a 914-6 that's for sale??? Need answer ASAP.

Wolfgang are you interested?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Tom


Tom, it might be my lack of knowing english, but unfortunately I didn't get the point of your question - I've no idea what you're asking (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

but the VIN you showed is incomplete

there is always a rumor, that the factory might have built M471 cars in MY'70 (914.0.43.xxxx), but only at special request - not as a standard procedure
remember - they also built the competition cars from the very beginning of the production
BUT - there's no proove yet

for sure - if there is a MY'70 914-6 with the M471 option, I would be the 1st who's interested in (IMG:style_emoticons/default/boldblue.gif)

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