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| RS22b |
 Jul 23 2007, 10:32 AM
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Type Broken!  Group: Members Posts: 223 Joined: 8-January 05 From: Vernon, NJ Member No.: 3,425  |
This is for all you Renegade guys.
Im thinking of selling my basically newely built race motor for my 914 and getting a wrx swap in there. From what i have seen on the Renegade site i realize i dont need all the $7200 worth of stuff to get this thing to be a reality and goin in my car. I also dont see too many pics of thier so called options installed on the cars. I would like to see some pics of ppl's setups so i can get an idea of what i will need to do or not do as far as those options go. Im sure if i talked to them they would say that i need that stuff (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Also does thier kit come with a wiring harness or is that something that i will have to build? thx. _billy |
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| RS22b |
Jul 23 2007, 10:33 AM
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Type Broken! Group: Members Posts: 223 Joined: 8-January 05 From: Vernon, NJ Member No.: 3,425 |
oh and i should add that i know there are a bunch of guys on here with such. I have seen some things but havent seen what i've stated above.
_billy |
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| VaccaRabite |
Jul 23 2007, 01:02 PM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,628 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region 
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But... But... You just got it back together again.
Renagade is famous for throwing a hissy fit if you post pictures of thier stuff online. Which would only cause me to want to post their stuff online. but there it is. Zach |
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| skline |
Jul 23 2007, 01:30 PM
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Born to Drive Group: Members Posts: 7,910 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Costa Mesa, CA Member No.: 17 Region Association: Southern California |
Talk to TonyAKAVW. He built his own among others here. He has a thread however you can look at during his build and he is available to ask questions.
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| jimkelly |
Jul 23 2007, 01:37 PM
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Delaware USA Group: Members Posts: 4,969 Joined: 5-August 04 From: Delaware, USA Member No.: 2,460 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
renegade's prices are not unfair - they may get emotional when they perceive that someone is trying steal one of their ideas but with that said - they are THE reputable 914 conversion vendor and I am happy for their existence 100%. My next conversion will use more RH parts.
Call them - they will help you out. $7200 - let us know what parts do you think you don't need ?? I have a v8 in my car - the kit is $2000 and the colling kit is $1000 - besides this you'll need complete engine, exhaust, fuel pump - if you were to do a v8. suggestion - take care of your suspension and brakes first - because afterwards you will only want to drive it non stop : ) |
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| Carlitos Way |
Jul 23 2007, 01:42 PM
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I did it MY WAY Group: Members Posts: 1,337 Joined: 14-September 04 From: Simi Valley, CA Member No.: 2,757 Region Association: Southern California |
Check out CrazyHippy (PM him if you prefer). He's got a renegade conversion and can tell you MORE than what you want to know about the Suby swap.
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| RS22b |
Jul 23 2007, 02:02 PM
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Type Broken! Group: Members Posts: 223 Joined: 8-January 05 From: Vernon, NJ Member No.: 3,425 |
sweet! thx all for the replies.
On that note, im not trying to steal their setup as i dont have the time nor the skill to perform such an act. i would end up buying prob everything from them minus the motor set which i have plenty of subie connections for, just look at my sig (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) just wondering how they all mounted and why you would need to relocate such things as turbo and IC and whatnot and where the final resting places are after the relocation kit is installed. _billy |
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| plymouth37 |
Jul 23 2007, 02:33 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,825 Joined: 24-May 05 From: Snoqualmie, WA Member No.: 4,138 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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 This is about all the extras you will need to get a wrx into your 914 except the shiftrod (also sold by renegade), cooling system, and of course the conversion kit. I built my own wiring harness for my car (pain in the ass), Renegade will modify one for you, or I think BJ went with an aftermarket unit. I used to work for renegade and actually designed most of the subie kit, all of the pieces pictured are available through renegade, prices are on their site (even though I make them (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ) Feel free to PM me with any questions you may have. Dana. |
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| Crazyhippy |
Jul 23 2007, 07:15 PM
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Insert witty comment here... Group: Members Posts: 1,659 Joined: 28-July 05 From: Home of the Coyotes, AZ Member No.: 4,493 Region Association: None |
Quick answers, the turbo would be in the rear trunk if not re-located. it ends up an inch and a half or so down, and set back a bit. Intercooler gets spun 180 degrees and offset to the pass side of the car. the radiator filler goes to the driver side (so you can fill it w/o removing the intercooler)
I did a standalone, and recommend the AMS Stinger (not what i used, but will next time) Dana's fab work on the stuff pictured is outstanding. fits right, nice welds, etc. I built my own, and think i payed myself about 2.50 an hour for the fab time... Dana: Are you doing the turbo outlets in 3"? I have more motor than the 2.5" i did will support (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) BJH |
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| RS22b |
Jul 23 2007, 09:59 PM
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Type Broken! Group: Members Posts: 223 Joined: 8-January 05 From: Vernon, NJ Member No.: 3,425 |
thx for the heads up! i def dont want to be cutting up the trunk, haha.
any issue with heat and such with the turbo being right under the trunk? im sure i will have more questions when im researching a bit more. thx. _billy |
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| plymouth37 |
Jul 23 2007, 10:15 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,825 Joined: 24-May 05 From: Snoqualmie, WA Member No.: 4,138 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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BJ, I just started building 3" downpipes instead of the 2.5" I have one on my car and it flows great.
Don't worry about the turbo heat in the trunk, my plastic battery tray is right over the turbo and shows no sign of heat damage. |
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| Crazyhippy |
Jul 23 2007, 11:13 PM
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Insert witty comment here... Group: Members Posts: 1,659 Joined: 28-July 05 From: Home of the Coyotes, AZ Member No.: 4,493 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(plymouth37 @ Jul 23 2007, 09:15 PM)  Don't worry about the turbo heat in the trunk, my plastic battery tray is right over the turbo and shows no sign of heat damage. I agree... My trunk gets a bit warm, but no sign of paint damage. |
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| GS Guy |
Jul 24 2007, 07:12 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 243 Joined: 8-July 04 From: Columbia, MD Member No.: 2,325 Region Association: North East States |
How do you guys handle the rotation of the intercooler and inlet connections? It seems like the rather complicated cast I/C connector pieces and formed Y-pipe tube wouldn't lend themselves very well to and changes in direction or alterations?
I've considered using a WRX intercooler in my conversion - since it already has the nice matched I/C to throttle body connection. But the turbo to inlet ports hardware doesn't look very "user friendly" for any kind of reconfiguration work (at least not bolt-on). Anyone have a pic of the underside of the I/C right before you place it in the car - with the connection bits in place? Jeff |
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| plymouth37 |
Jul 24 2007, 09:08 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,825 Joined: 24-May 05 From: Snoqualmie, WA Member No.: 4,138 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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QUOTE(GS Guy @ Jul 24 2007, 05:12 AM) How do you guys handle the rotation of the intercooler and inlet connections? It seems like the rather complicated cast I/C connector pieces and formed Y-pipe tube wouldn't lend themselves very well to and changes in direction or alterations? I've considered using a WRX intercooler in my conversion - since it already has the nice matched I/C to throttle body connection. But the turbo to inlet ports hardware doesn't look very "user friendly" for any kind of reconfiguration work (at least not bolt-on). Anyone have a pic of the underside of the I/C right before you place it in the car - with the connection bits in place? Jeff The intercooler is stock and unmolested the tubing and brackets you see above takes care of the rotation and mounting, it's a bolt on! |
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| RS22b |
Jul 25 2007, 11:16 AM
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Type Broken! Group: Members Posts: 223 Joined: 8-January 05 From: Vernon, NJ Member No.: 3,425 |
thanks plymouth for all the info.
Im just trying to figure out what i really want to do. I love my new motor that was just built but i really need something more reliable with such weather differences here in the NE. _billy |
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| plymouth37 |
Jul 25 2007, 11:59 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,825 Joined: 24-May 05 From: Snoqualmie, WA Member No.: 4,138 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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QUOTE(RS22b @ Jul 25 2007, 09:16 AM) thanks plymouth for all the info. Im just trying to figure out what i really want to do. I love my new motor that was just built but i really need something more reliable with such weather differences here in the NE. _billy No problem, let me know if you have any more questions. Judging by your list of cars it looks like you would have no problem working around a subie engine! I just bought a couple '07 Legacy GT's, Subaru really makes a great car! |
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| fat73 |
Jul 26 2007, 12:56 PM
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W9R1 Group: Members Posts: 244 Joined: 7-May 05 From: tampa,fl Member No.: 4,043 Region Association: South East States |
QUOTE(plymouth37 @ Jul 23 2007, 12:33 PM) This is about all the extras you will need to get a wrx into your 914 except the shiftrod (also sold by renegade), cooling system, and of course the conversion kit. I built my own wiring harness for my car (pain in the ass), Renegade will modify one for you, or I think BJ went with an aftermarket unit. I used to work for renegade and actually designed most of the subie kit, all of the pieces pictured are available through renegade, prices are on their site (even though I make them (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ) Feel free to PM me with any questions you may have. Dana. That's pictures of the kit that's in my car (prior to shipping)! Do yourself a favor and go with the Renegade engine mounting system too. see http://community.webshots.com/user/fat73 There's alot of pictures in there of most stuff except for the complete engine mount. I used all Renegade stuff and am glad I did. No problems after 16k miles of driving since 10/06, including a round trip Tampa-Vegas-Tampa to SEMA. Ed aka W9R1 |
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| fat73 |
Jul 26 2007, 12:58 PM
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W9R1 Group: Members Posts: 244 Joined: 7-May 05 From: tampa,fl Member No.: 4,043 Region Association: South East States |
QUOTE(plymouth37 @ Jul 23 2007, 08:15 PM) BJ, I just started building 3" downpipes instead of the 2.5" I have one on my car and it flows great. Don't worry about the turbo heat in the trunk, my plastic battery tray is right over the turbo and shows no sign of heat damage. I used what's called a "Turbo Blanket"....no problems so far. Ed aka W9R1 |
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| RS22b |
Jul 26 2007, 01:01 PM
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Type Broken! Group: Members Posts: 223 Joined: 8-January 05 From: Vernon, NJ Member No.: 3,425 |
QUOTE(plymouth37 @ Jul 25 2007, 01:59 PM) QUOTE(RS22b @ Jul 25 2007, 09:16 AM) thanks plymouth for all the info. Im just trying to figure out what i really want to do. I love my new motor that was just built but i really need something more reliable with such weather differences here in the NE. _billy No problem, let me know if you have any more questions. Judging by your list of cars it looks like you would have no problem working around a subie engine! I just bought a couple '07 Legacy GT's, Subaru really makes a great car! Yeah! me = done about 50 or so subaru swaps and counting! I have 2 more STi swaps scheduled over the next 3 months. Of course all these swaps are Subaru to Subaru and i would love to try out a Subaru to 914 swap just for shear cost of repairs and reliability. I might even try and do the tranny swap as well and just get it full Subaru!. QUOTE(fat73 @ Jul 26 2007, 02:56 PM) QUOTE(plymouth37 @ Jul 23 2007, 12:33 PM) This is about all the extras you will need to get a wrx into your 914 except the shiftrod (also sold by renegade), cooling system, and of course the conversion kit. I built my own wiring harness for my car (pain in the ass), Renegade will modify one for you, or I think BJ went with an aftermarket unit. I used to work for renegade and actually designed most of the subie kit, all of the pieces pictured are available through renegade, prices are on their site (even though I make them (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ) Feel free to PM me with any questions you may have. Dana. That's pictures of the kit that's in my car (prior to shipping)! Do yourself a favor and go with the Renegade engine mounting system too. see http://community.webshots.com/user/fat73 There's alot of pictures in there of most stuff except for the complete engine mount. I used all Renegade stuff and am glad I did. No problems after 16k miles of driving since 10/06, including a round trip Tampa-Vegas-Tampa to SEMA. Ed aka W9R1 thanks for the link Ed! i will be sure to take a look at this later when i get home tonite. _billy |
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| fat73 |
Jul 26 2007, 01:02 PM
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W9R1 Group: Members Posts: 244 Joined: 7-May 05 From: tampa,fl Member No.: 4,043 Region Association: South East States |
QUOTE(plymouth37 @ Jul 23 2007, 12:33 PM) This is about all the extras you will need to get a wrx into your 914 except the shiftrod (also sold by renegade), cooling system, and of course the conversion kit. I built my own wiring harness for my car (pain in the ass), Renegade will modify one for you, or I think BJ went with an aftermarket unit. I used to work for renegade and actually designed most of the subie kit, all of the pieces pictured are available through renegade, prices are on their site (even though I make them (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ) Feel free to PM me with any questions you may have. Dana. Oh yeah....the Wiring harness. I sent my complete car harness (subie) to Smallcar performance (http://www.smallcar.com/) out of washington state in a 2' x 3' x 3' box and they sent me back a pruned / labelled harness in a hat box. No problems, no limp mode, nada since we first started it. $750 Only problems I've had is with Porsche stuff. Ed aka W9R1 |
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