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| tod914 |
 May 15 2010, 08:05 PM
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Advanced Member  Group: Members Posts: 3,755 Joined: 19-January 03 From: Lincoln Park, NJ Member No.: 170  |
The 74 I sold, had the original steel wheel and tire. No clear coat was on it. The back of the wheel was sprayed black. And not very well.
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| Tom_T |
May 15 2010, 11:27 PM
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TMI.... Group: Members Posts: 8,320 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California 
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QUOTE(tod914 @ May 15 2010, 07:05 PM)  The 74 I sold, had the original steel wheel and tire. No clear coat was on it. The back of the wheel was sprayed black. And not very well. Tod, they were all that way. I think they were painted black first, then the silver - which dusted over onto the back side which gave it the "not very well painted" look. Afterall, they were just VW workers! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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| Pat Garvey |
 May 16 2010, 07:15 PM
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Do I or don't I...........? Group: Members Posts: 5,899 Joined: 24-March 06 From: SE PA, near Philly Member No.: 5,765 Region Association: North East States |
QUOTE(Tom_T @ May 15 2010, 11:27 PM) QUOTE(tod914 @ May 15 2010, 07:05 PM) The 74 I sold, had the original steel wheel and tire. No clear coat was on it. The back of the wheel was sprayed black. And not very well. Tod, they were all that way. I think they were painted black first, then the silver - which dusted over onto the back side which gave it the "not very well painted" look. Afterall, they were just VW workers! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Agree with you Tom. On my 72, the wheels were black on the back & front nut center - silver dusting on the fronts. I changed that to make them more attractive. Yes, I'm guilty of non-original steels wheel finish. Doesn't matter, because my chromies will be there for the rest of my life anyway. Shame on me! Pat |
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| tod914 |
May 16 2010, 10:01 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,755 Joined: 19-January 03 From: Lincoln Park, NJ Member No.: 170 |
Ahh black first. That makes sence.
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| Tom_T |
May 17 2010, 01:30 AM
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TMI.... Group: Members Posts: 8,320 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California
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| DanT |
Jun 17 2010, 05:33 PM
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Going back to the Dark Side! Group: Members Posts: 4,300 Joined: 4-October 04 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 2,880 Region Association: None |
or you can really go non concours and do this with your Fuchs.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
looks pretty good on the L908 '75 I am building (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Attached image(s)  
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| RFoulds |
Aug 20 2010, 12:26 PM
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Green Teen 66 Group: Members Posts: 837 Joined: 10-August 09 From: La Quinta, CA Member No.: 10,656 Region Association: Southwest Region
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I am refinishing my original Late-Steel wheels. The car came with two sets, one set of Rivieras, and the original steelies from 1974. The spare is in place and in fine shape. The other four were left outside for 20+ years.
So, they are off to be sandblasted right now, and I plan to re-spray asap. I had assumed Wurth Silver would be a close match to factory, but now I find that I can't get it shipped here to CA! Anyone know where I can buy it WITHIN CA, si don't have to have it shipped into the state? As for tires, I have all 5 of the originally equipped Michelins. The Riv's will be trod with something fitting for road use, while the Steelies will have the original tired re-mounted. |
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| Tom_T |
Aug 20 2010, 10:40 PM
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TMI.... Group: Members Posts: 8,320 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California
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QUOTE(RFoulds @ Aug 20 2010, 11:26 AM) I am refinishing my original Late-Steel wheels. The car came with two sets, one set of Rivieras, and the original steelies from 1974. The spare is in place and in fine shape. The other four were left outside for 20+ years. So, they are off to be sandblasted right now, and I plan to re-spray asap. I had assumed Wurth Silver would be a close match to factory, but now I find that I can't get it shipped here to CA! Anyone know where I can buy it WITHIN CA, si don't have to have it shipped into the state? As for tires, I have all 5 of the originally equipped Michelins. The Riv's will be trod with something fitting for road use, while the Steelies will have the original tired re-mounted. Randy - Try GPR, Pelican or Sierra Madre Collection for the Wurth. IIRC - PP shipped me some Wurth Primer earlier this year too, from FL. I wouldn't trust those original Michi's to be road safe - even to/around a CdE event, but if yours was an 1.8L IIRC, there are several 165SR15 options out there which would be new, road safe & period correct. From Kumho, Bridgestone, to Michelin. If yours is a 2.0, then the 165HR15 are much more limited, or you got to 185/70VR15 XWX Michi for vintage upsize, or 195/65HR15 for current make upsize. If you want the vintage type Mich XZX, XWX, XAS - new, then try Lucas Tires in Long Beach - worth a drive to the coast (John Ferguson there IIRC, as mentioned in my older post to someone else above), but they're not cheap, which you can check online (Longstone/Lucas, Coker, Universal, etc. all have a few vintage new made tires with pricing online)! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) |
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| Pat Garvey |
Aug 23 2010, 06:18 PM
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Do I or don't I...........? Group: Members Posts: 5,899 Joined: 24-March 06 From: SE PA, near Philly Member No.: 5,765 Region Association: North East States |
QUOTE(RFoulds @ Aug 20 2010, 12:26 PM) I am refinishing my original Late-Steel wheels. The car came with two sets, one set of Rivieras, and the original steelies from 1974. The spare is in place and in fine shape. The other four were left outside for 20+ years. So, they are off to be sandblasted right now, and I plan to re-spray asap. I had assumed Wurth Silver would be a close match to factory, but now I find that I can't get it shipped here to CA! Anyone know where I can buy it WITHIN CA, si don't have to have it shipped into the state? As for tires, I have all 5 of the originally equipped Michelins. The Riv's will be trod with something fitting for road use, while the Steelies will have the original tired re-mounted. Try WolfsburgWest. Pat |
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| RFoulds |
Aug 31 2010, 07:33 PM
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Green Teen 66 Group: Members Posts: 837 Joined: 10-August 09 From: La Quinta, CA Member No.: 10,656 Region Association: Southwest Region
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Pat and all,
the wheels are looking good. almost done. I have to rub them down with 0000 steel wool and then polish. the old Michelins were too far gone to remount. so for OE looking tires, I am going to with Michelin XZX in 165SR15. Coker has them for $150 a piece. Before I order though, I need advice on a possible substitute. There is a 165HR15 from Vredestein available, for only $100 each. Saving $200 sounds great but never heard of this tire. Will it cost me points in CW? |
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| Porsche Rescue |
Aug 31 2010, 08:14 PM
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Saving and Enjoying Old Porsches Group: Members Posts: 2,978 Joined: 31-December 02 From: Bend, Oregon Member No.: 64 Region Association: None |
Vredestein is a European brand and was around in the '70's. It was never original equipment on Porsches but was a common replacement tire. I bought a set of 155's for my steel OE '70 wheels (4.5") and am very pleased with them.
They are "period correct". Of course the XZX Michelins are closer to original equipment but not exact. The factory tire was the ZX. |
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| Tom_T |
Sep 1 2010, 11:37 AM
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TMI.... Group: Members Posts: 8,320 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California
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QUOTE(Porsche Rescue @ Aug 31 2010, 07:14 PM) Vredestein is a European brand and was around in the '70's. It was never original equipment on Porsches but was a common replacement tire. I bought a set of 155's for my steel OE '70 wheels (4.5") and am very pleased with them. They are "period correct". Of course the XZX Michelins are closer to original equipment but not exact. The factory tire was the ZX. Hey Jim, according to the Vredstein factory folks, they were one of the suppliers to Porsche & on 914s for Euro cars only (I think I posted their reply email in the O&H Tires thread), as were Semperit, Continental & Dunlop. Tires & mfgrs. varied over the years, models & whatever subcontract came up at the time, so various Michi X-series tires were used. IIRC Pat Garvey's 72 914 had Conti's originally & my 73 2L had Semperit 401's on it from the factory (unless the dealership swapped the Dunlops/Fuchs for the 1st buyer - I'm 2nd owner), & I know a couple of other 914 original owners who had Sempi's as OE. Those Sempi's were great tires, handling as well as the Dunlops SP57's but lasted 3x as long! |
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| Pat Garvey |
Oct 28 2010, 06:34 PM
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Do I or don't I...........? Group: Members Posts: 5,899 Joined: 24-March 06 From: SE PA, near Philly Member No.: 5,765 Region Association: North East States |
QUOTE(RFoulds @ Aug 31 2010, 07:33 PM) Pat and all, the wheels are looking good. almost done. I have to rub them down with 0000 steel wool and then polish. the old Michelins were too far gone to remount. so for OE looking tires, I am going to with Michelin XZX in 165SR15. Coker has them for $150 a piece. Before I order though, I need advice on a possible substitute. There is a 165HR15 from Vredestein available, for only $100 each. Saving $200 sounds great but never heard of this tire. Will it cost me points in CW? Hell with the tires! Ca we see pics of the wheels? Pat |
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| RFoulds |
Oct 29 2010, 12:10 PM
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Green Teen 66 Group: Members Posts: 837 Joined: 10-August 09 From: La Quinta, CA Member No.: 10,656 Region Association: Southwest Region
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Hey Pat,
I posted them somewhere on here a few weeks back. I think they came out pretty good. I had the original spare to compare to (the one with the michelin mounted in pic), which was a great reference. I sprayed the backs with Wurth Satin black, then the fronts with Wurth White. pics were taken at sunset, so a little dark. color looks just right compared to the OE spare. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/img.photobucket.com-10656-1288375817.1.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/img.photobucket.com-10656-1288375817.2.jpg) |
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| Tom_T |
Nov 2 2010, 11:36 PM
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TMI.... Group: Members Posts: 8,320 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California
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QUOTE(RFoulds @ Aug 31 2010, 06:33 PM) Pat and all, the wheels are looking good. almost done. I have to rub them down with 0000 steel wool and then polish. the old Michelins were too far gone to remount. so for OE looking tires, I am going to with Michelin XZX in 165SR15. Coker has them for $150 a piece. Before I order though, I need advice on a possible substitute. There is a 165HR15 from Vredestein available, for only $100 each. Saving $200 sounds great but never heard of this tire. Will it cost me points in CW? According to the Zone 8 Judging class I took in March, they won't judge the originality aspects (e.g.: tires) at local Zone 8 CdE events, only at Parade, & some regional events in the case of "tie breakers". Vredesteins have been on Parade winners from that era. |
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| RFoulds |
Nov 3 2010, 10:37 AM
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Green Teen 66 Group: Members Posts: 837 Joined: 10-August 09 From: La Quinta, CA Member No.: 10,656 Region Association: Southwest Region
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Thanks for the info. Will be hard for this car to win, since it really is all about originality, and not how well I detail it.
But, gonna give it a try anyway. |
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| Tom_T |
Nov 4 2010, 09:50 AM
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TMI.... Group: Members Posts: 8,320 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California
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| RFoulds |
Nov 4 2010, 10:24 AM
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Green Teen 66 Group: Members Posts: 837 Joined: 10-August 09 From: La Quinta, CA Member No.: 10,656 Region Association: Southwest Region
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Not sure yet. My schedule has been screwed up. I had hope to make the Santa Barbara region event as the first on my schedule, but car is not ready.
I got seriously delayed when I decided to have the ECU and MAF completely rebuilt, instead of replacing them with used/unkown parts. That cost me 5 weeks of waiting, and a lot more cash. I haven't even tried to fire the engine yet. All parts are back, and now we have to get back to work on it. Unfortunately, my son's Camaro jumped in line. I have to either put new heads on an old worn out V8 or find a crate engine he can afford. But, 914 is in good hands. It sits on a lift at a very clean shop, waiting for us. When would the next Zone 8 event be?? |
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| Tom_T |
Nov 4 2010, 10:40 AM
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TMI.... Group: Members Posts: 8,320 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California
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| Pat Garvey |
Nov 6 2010, 07:31 PM
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Do I or don't I...........? Group: Members Posts: 5,899 Joined: 24-March 06 From: SE PA, near Philly Member No.: 5,765 Region Association: North East States |
QUOTE(RFoulds @ Oct 29 2010, 12:10 PM) Hey Pat, I posted them somewhere on here a few weeks back. I think they came out pretty good. I had the original spare to compare to (the one with the michelin mounted in pic), which was a great reference. I sprayed the backs with Wurth Satin black, then the fronts with Wurth White. pics were taken at sunset, so a little dark. color looks just right compared to the OE spare. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/img.photobucket.com-10656-1288375817.1.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/img.photobucket.com-10656-1288375817.2.jpg) NICE! Great job. Pat |
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